l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 1 我好笑的是他说那个红条是平行宇宙过来的. 然后我说CBO的数据,这下他就傻眼了. |
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发帖数: 29846 | 2 你算数字要有ｓｕｐｐｏｒｔ.不是张嘴一来就是3个T.好歹顶楼的数据还是CBO给出的.
你至少要讲出来大使馆费用每年是多少吧,花在战后士兵身上是多少钱. 而且要看
incremental cost,这个能理解嘛?
那个图已经说的很明白了. 那个war的费用占用的比例很低. 反而从2008年起,政府的开
销已经到了令人惊讶的程度. 我奇怪为什么没有人质疑这个?
关于这个war应该不应该打,这个先不在讨论范围. 我觉得是应该打的,特别是伊拉克.
另外显然你不懂经济,说什么每人发多少钱不更好. 那为什么疤蟆当初stimulus不发钱
给每个人呢?
tax cut一直被证明是促进经济发展的一个有效手段. 比stimulus好多了.
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发帖数: 10233 | 3 ObamaCare’s Reality: American Families
This tax will average about $1,200 for middle-income earners and families,
with more than 80 percent of those projected to get hit having an income of
less than $50,000 per year. More broadly, American taxpayers will have to
pay about $7 billion in new ObamaCare taxes by 2016 – a number that will
rise by an additional $1 billion over the next 6 years.
President Obama also claimed that his health-care plan would extend coverage
dramatically. Yet, the CBO now... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 2119 | 4 也不知道誰SB。明明公司遷移國外就是有tax deduction。Romney其實是full of lies
。所謂7160億節省是CBO算出來的，也包括在Ryan的計劃裡面，Romney居然厚臉皮攻擊
這個。整個就是一個厚顏無恥。 |
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发帖数: 29846 | 5 Enrollment in Food Stamps, Medicaid, and Disability Far Outpaces Job Growth
in Last 4 Years
Daniel Halper
October 10, 2012 6:25 PM
A new chart provided by the minority side of the Senate Budget Committee
details the alarming fact that enrollment in federal social welfare programs
like Food Stamps, Medicaid, and Disability have far outpaced job growth
over the last four years. Here's the chart:
In terms of percentage growth, Food Stamp enrollment has jumped 65.2 percent
over the last four years, ... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 3656 | 6 I posted a couple weeks ago about the profit and loss in TARP.
basically the original program to stablize banking and AIG dispensed about
340B and so far got back 320B with returned principle plus interest,
dividend and appreciation in the assets purchased. Future returns are
expected. so it is very likely this part of the program as originally
designed by Hank Paulson under Bush with democratic support will break even.
the part that was allocated after Obama came into power to rescue the
autom... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 2971 | 7 如果国会在明年1月前不设法解决加税和削减政府花费的预算法案，大多数民众将
无法逃避「财政悬崖」的影响。经济学家表示，财政悬崖产生巨大的冲击将使2013年上
半年进入经济衰退。
非党派研究机构「税务政策中心」(Tax Policy Center)估计，中等收入家庭明年
将平均多付2000元税。
国会预算处(CBO)估计，如果坠入财政悬崖，将有高达340万人失业，失业率将由7.
9%增加到9.1%；股价将下跌。非党派的国会预算处预估，2013年财政悬崖的总成本为
6710亿元。
如果以所占经济百分比来衡量，财政悬崖将造成美国60年来最高幅度的加税。富国
银行经济学家维特纳(Mark Vitner)表示：「财政悬崖将对美国经济造成巨大冲击。」
财政悬崖三分之二的损害将来自加税，政府支出的削减也会为民众带来痛苦。
这种令人担忧的前景迫使白宫和国会必须在年底前达成协议。国会13日开始选举后
的新会期，此会期将持续到12月31日。分析家表示，白宫和国会或许会达成暂时性的妥
协，为明年初的最后协议铺路。
由于白宫和国会是否能达成最后协议仍有不确定性，许多企业采取观望的策略，延
缓雇用新人，也不愿增加... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 29846 | 8 作者:Jason Richwine 翻译:金坤亦
2013-01-08 03:40:01
【原文选自传统基金会评论部分，作者是传统基金会高级政策分析师。】
联邦政府的员工应当加薪吗？ 2011年支付给政府员工的总共2710亿美元的工资和福利
的事实，对决定是否延长去年制定的冻结增加生活费用法案额具有重要的预算影响。不
幸的是，政府对薪酬比较的方法太不完善，无法给予真正的引导。
作为一个专家学者们和工会领导们的咨询机构，联邦薪酬委员会（The Federal Salary
Council）上个月提出，相对于非联邦雇员而言，联邦政府员工工资低了平均35%。委
员会的数据来自“总统的薪酬代理机构”（President’s Pay Agent），它是一个指导
联邦政府年度薪酬比较的官僚机构。
工会抓住这一数据，利用它反击工资冻结。但实际上，这个薪酬代理的最新结论反而强
调了这一薪酬的比较方法并不恰当。
如果这些数据是可信的，那么在工作相同的条件下，联邦雇员只被支付了非联邦雇员所
被支付的每一美元的65%。换句话说，一个普通的联邦雇员若转做一个政府外的工作，
其工资将会增加54%。
这些数... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 6971 | 9
你在这里瞎算啥？即收即付维持了多少年了。我那个70%的数字也是CBO算出来的，不比
你自作聪明更准确？ |
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发帖数: 433 | 10 1 SS还从来没有即收即付过，到那时候估计早崩盘了
2 70%是理论上说，有各种条件各种年限的
3 CBO 一直在提SS的严重亏空问题，从来没有人听，国会不理，媒体不报道
4 各种政府项目拿SS存款当提款机用，长期借款，什么时候能还，拿什么去还，没人知
道，也没有媒体报道 |
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发帖数: 7063 | 11 早说过无数次了，保证人人有饭吃的制度，最后人人没饭吃。保证人人有医保的制度，
最后人人看不上病。
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发帖数: 1268 | 12 Milton Friedman: "A society which aims for Equality before Liberty will end
up with neither Equality nor Liberty....You can only aim at equality by
giving some people the right to take things from others. And what
ultimately happens when you aim at equality is that A and B decide what C
shall do for D, except that they take a little bit of a commission off on
the way!" |
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发帖数: 8800 | 13 连CBO都承认了。要到2016年人们看到O8要下台的时候才能重新看好经济 |
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发帖数: 1041 | 14 Congressional Budget Office (CBO)國會預算辦公室的報告說: Thus, total
compensation was about 16 percent higher, on average, for federal workers
than for similar private-sector workers. |
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发帖数: 21627 | 15 给下面这篇左逼霉文做一个摘要：
“大赫非法移民，不会增加福利负担，也不会增加就业
相反，会促进就业，增加财税，增加鸡的P”
文章甚至“伟光正”到了连“Amnesty ”这个词的使用都被视为不当
而是要说什么“earned residency.”
Alejandrino Honorato’s introduction to America began with a smuggler who
led him across the Rio Grande into the Texas desert. Eventually he was
guided to a North Carolina field, where he paid for his passage by picking
tobacco. Living illegally in a labor camp, Honorato didn’t know politicians
in Washington were deciding his future. It was 1986, and Congress was
weighing an ... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 3299 | 16 如果美国的收支一直是这样那就必定破产。但是美国的赤字不可能一直是1.1 trillion
。你用一个点来预测将来，说的最轻的就是幼稚。还从会计的角度？我不是会计但有
common sense。
整天拿些common non-sense来说事，浪费网络资源，propaganda false information.
难听的就是你想擦赛自己的私货。美国的如果要盈余，很简单，就是在经济好的加税。
比如克林顿的时候就有盈余。比方今年的赤字就没有1.1trillion。减少到0.
642trillion。
the budget deficit will shrink this year to $642 billion, the Congressional
Budget Office (CBO) estimates, the smallest shortfall since 2008," they
wrote. |
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发帖数: 29846 | 17 作者:Pierre Lemieux 翻译:王美娜
2013-06-21 04:29:45
【原文选自Cato Journal Spring/Summer 2013 Vol. 33 No. 2。Pierre Lemieux就职
于魁北克大学管理系，同时是独立研究所（Independent Institute）研究员。】
美国的福利制度和欧洲福利制度的不同，不像传统思想认为的那样。如果我们将福利制
度定义为国家的一部分（各级政府的所有组织和运作方式），致力于负责公共福利，福
利制度职责包括社会保障（包含公共养老金），卫生和教育。如表1所示，这些职能占
所有美国政府支出的57%，相比于典型欧元区国家的63%。在这个意义上，美国的福利制
度仅仅比欧洲的福利制度小10%。
表1的数据在一个重要的方面夸大了美国的福利制度。由于欧洲政府总体支出高于美国
，福利制度开支占GDP比例的差距将会更大。事实上，美国福利制度开支是GDP的21%，
相比于典型欧元区国家的30%。美国和欧洲福利制度显示的10%的差距因此被放大到30%
。这仍然是一个程度的差异，而不是种类上的差异。
两种福利制度存在其他差异... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 29846 | 18 54 Months: Record Stretch of 7.5%+ Unemployment Continues
(CNSNews.com) - Since January 2009, when Barack Obama was inaugurated as
president, the United States has seen 54 straight months with the
unemployment rate at 7.5 percent or higher, which is the longest stretch of
unemployment at or above that rate since 1948, when the Bureau of Labor
Statistics started calculating the national unemployment rate.
Today, BLS reported that the seasonally adjusted national unemployment rate
for June was 7.6... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 29846 | 19 September 16, 2013 by Warner Todd Huston
We are hearing from many of our representatives that it just isn’t possible
to defund Obamacare because the House rules say they can’t. This, as it
happens, is just a dodge. The House has defunded separate things while
passing the rest of a budget many times.
One of the things that weak-willed Republicans that don’t want to discuss
defunding Obamacare say is that the mandatory spending cannot be clocked
with an appropriations bill. This is simply not tr... 阅读全帖 |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 20 你这个明显就是以偏概全.煞笔民猪党就是这么干的.
全美那么多人真正象你讲的这种情况有多少?
医保要改革,但绝对不是现在这种做法.
年纪轻或者身体好的可以不买保险.到时候看病自己掏腰包就是.
真正那些天生有病,或者残疾的人,只是少数.对这些人,可以政府补贴搞个特别计划处理
. 但现在疤蟆care明显就是一刀切.
你看CBO说,疤蟆care实行后估计还有30多million的人不会有保险.因为太贵很多人买不
起,宁愿付罚金.
现在主要的医保改革其实就几点:
一个:tort reform
另外一个:
允许医疗保险公司跨州经营,这样可以增强竞争,就象车辆保险一样,有好多个保险公司
在同一个州竞争,这样保险费会下降. |
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发帖数: 29846 | 21 Republicans Got It Right About Obamacare: 5 Predictions That Turned Out To
Be True
Republicans Got It Right About Obamacare: 5 Predictions That Turned Out To
Be True
Republicans were right about Obamacare and Democrats were wrong. Before
Obamacare was passed, when Democrats were telling the public that it would
make health care cheaper, better, and would cure cancer right after it makes
your bed in the morning and cuts your grass, Republicans were pointing out
the very flaws that the American pe... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 29846 | 22 美国国会预算办公室数据，2010年美国高收入40%家庭负担106.2%联邦所得税，低收入
40%美国家庭不叫联邦所得税，还净得9.1%补贴
CBO shows top 40% pay more than 100% of taxes
By: Randall Holcombe
12/19/2013 04:09 PM
This article originally appeared on heartland.org.
The Congressional Budget Office has published a study, The Distribution of
Household Income and Federal Taxes, 2010, which shows that the top 40
percent of income earners paid 106.2 percent of total federal income taxes,
while the bottom 40 percent paid -9.1 percent. This isn’t the study’... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 10729 | 23 查了一下，他们的effective tax rate是～30%。中产是～9%。
但是富人肯定有其他的收入，比如dividend。所以我支持flat income tax。IRS搞那么
多复杂的code，最后肯定有很多loophole。
http://blog.heritage.org/2013/12/12/top-1-percent-pays-effectiv
According to CBO, the top 1 percent of income earners—families earning more
than $613,700 in 2010 (the latest year of available data)—paid an
effective tax rate on all federal taxes of 29.4 percent. They paid 24.2
percent of all federal taxes while earning just under 15 percent of all
income.
The middle class—familie... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 3656 | 24 他们是故意的啦。
用排除税收和福利的收入衡量贫富差距，要求加税，加福利。然后再用同样的排除税收
和福利的收入衡量贫富差距，一看，贫富差距没有改善嘛，就再加税，再加福利。
lather rinse repeat as needed.
参考：“The Mismeasure of Inequality” by Kip Hagopian and Lee Ohanian
，Hoover Institution， Stanford University
“includes most of the income items listed above and subtracts taxes 。。。
。。。 income inequality declined 1.8 percent during the sixteen-year period
between 1993 and 2009, when the Gini coefficient dropped from .395 to .388.”
http://www.hoover.org/publications/policy-review/artic... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 29846 | 25 Pants On Fire: PolitiFact Tries To Hide That It Rated 'True' in 2008
Obamacare's 'Keep Your Health Plan' Promise
On December 12, the self-appointed guardians of truth and justice at
PolitiFact named President Obama’s infamous promise—that “if you like
your health care plan, you can keep it”—its 2013 “Lie of the Year.” An
understandable choice. But in its article detailing why the President’s
promise was a lie, PolitiFact neglected to mention an essential detail. In
2008, at a critical point in t... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 61690 | 26 【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: brihand (brihand), 信区: Military
标 题: 巴马同志又给美国增加了一万亿的国债
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Feb 4 13:35:49 2014, 美东)
CBO V5: 2010年算出来,obamacare可以减1万亿的国债.现在算出来要增1万亿的国债. |
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发帖数: 3656 | 27 CBO 的最新统计：top 40% 是 net tax payer, bottom 60% 是net
redistribution receiver. |
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发帖数: 21396 | 28 这条怎么打倒左逼？俺还没想出来，诸位帮忙想想。其实有没有理由无所谓，本版只要
有“左逼该死，打倒左逼”这个结论就可以了。
By Kasia Klimasinska Aug 27, 2014 9:14 AM PT
The U.S. budget deficit will narrow less than forecast this year even as it
falls to the lowest level since 2007 as a share of the economy, according to
the Congressional Budget Office.
The projected shortfall will be $506 billion in the 12 months ending Sept.
30, compared with an April prediction for $492 billion and a $680 billion
gap posted last year, the nonpartisan CBO said today in a ... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 29846 | 30 报告：美联邦雇员薪酬比私企高78%
2015.10.09 06:48
华盛顿古典自由派智库加图研究所（Cato Institute）本星期发表一份报告说，美国联
邦公务员的工资加福利平均起来比美国私营部门员工多出78%。目前，国会正陷入预算
之争，这份报告无疑给那些力主削减政府机构和开支的共和党议员增加了弹药。
加图研究所税收政策主任克里斯·爱德华兹本月发表了题为《削减联邦雇员薪资和福利
成本》的报告。作者根据美国经济分析局（BEA）的统计数字说，2014年，联邦政府210
万非军职雇员的平均薪水是84153美元，而1110万私营部门员工的平均薪水为56350美元
，如果加上医保和退休金等各项福利，联邦雇员所得报酬平均为119934美元，私营部门
员工平均报酬为67246美元，联邦雇员相比之下多出了78%。
报告还说，联邦雇员的报酬比州和地方政府雇员多出43%。
这份报告称，“联邦政府已成为稳定和高薪工作的精英岛，脱离了由在经济中竞争的普
通美国人组成的海洋。”
报告得出结论说，人们有时觉得联邦政府应当广纳全国技能最好的人才，而且用高薪吸
引他们，但是联邦政府把最佳人才从私营部门的高价... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 29846 | 31 ObamaCare is entering its dreaded ‘death spiral’
By Betsy McCaughey
October 19, 2015 | 7:46pm
ObamaCare is heading toward a death spiral.
The Obama administration is having trouble selling insurance plans to
healthy people. That’s a big problem: When the young and healthy don’t
enroll, premiums have to be hiked to cover the costs of older, sicker people
, discouraging even more young people from signing up.
Last Thursday, the administration predicted enrollment for 2016 will be less
than half wh... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 8358 | 32 Can Trump really eliminate $19 trillion in debt over 8 years?
By Rick Moran
Fact checking Donald Trump's outrageous assertions is a full time job. But
in an interview with Bob Woodward, Trump topped his most incredble claims by
saying he could eliminate our $19 trillion debt in 8 years.
In outlining his bare bones plan, Trump makes some startling assumptions
that anyone with two brain cells working would recognize as preposterous.
First and most important, the national debt will grow by nearly $... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 43471 | 34 我就等在这里打你的脸，恩
S.98 - STEM Jobs Act of 2015
114th Congress (2015-2016) | Get alerts
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Sponsor: Sen. Vitter, David [R-LA] (Introduced 01/07/2015)
Committees: Senate - Judiciary
Latest Action: 01/07/2015 Read twice and referred to the Committee on the
Judiciary. (All Actions)
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发帖数: 6361 | 35 【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: Nampuu (世界上不存在的歌), 信区: Military
标 题: 波兰人为何如此反感穆斯林？折射整个欧洲人对穆斯林的态度
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Dec 11 17:40:32 2016, 美东)
根据美国皮尤研究中心（Pew Research Center）最新调查结果显示，在波兰反感穆斯
林的人要比其他欧洲国家多得多……
这是为什么呢？
更奇怪的是，目前波兰境内仅生活着几万穆斯林，相比总人口3800万的波兰人而言，算
是非常小众的群体了，以至于大部分波兰人在日常交际中甚至都没有真正见过穆斯林，
那么从理论上来说，波兰人应该会对他们抱着完全无所谓的态度，但实际情况却恰恰相
反。
在皮尤研究中心给出的报告中，反感穆斯林的波兰人达到了惊人的56%，在欧洲各国排
在第二位，第一位则是意大利，为61%。
来自波兰中央商学院（SGH）的伊斯兰教研究学教授Katarzyna Górak给出了自己的答
案，其实波兰人不是反感生活在波兰的穆斯林，而是他们反感所有的穆斯林，在这次调
查的所有国家中，波兰是穆斯林占本国... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 5600 | 36 能否通过的两大关键，多少人会失去保险，新法案花纳税人多少钱，CBO还没给出估计
福利一旦发出就很难收回。得罪选民的事谁也不想干，钱花的太多又负担不起。这里没
有什么魔术可变。
Obamacare衰亡的最大原因，有病的人买保险健康人不买保险的问题，也看不出新法案
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发帖数: 4192 | 37 新法案没有repeal ACA关于out-of-pocket limit的部分。这一部分保留。不过保费会
上涨。CBO的official 估算要等到周一。VOX的估算是60-65岁family,2020的平均保费
25000，加上out-of-pocket maximum，一共大约4万一年。 |
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发帖数: 61690 | 38 Democrats force protests on House floor over healthcare bill
Democrats employed repeated delay tactics on the House floor Wednesday to
protest the GOP’s decision to plow ahead with committee markups of a
proposal to repeal and replace ObamaCare without an independent analysis of
its cost and effects.
Two Democrats, House Minority Whip Steny Hoyer (Md.) and Rep. Jim McGovern (
Mass.), forced procedural votes on motions to adjourn to extend the amount
of time lawmakers had to spend on the floor We... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 368 | 39 vow不vow没用，更何况是White House的vow，诚信度很低。不管怎么样，按着目前的取
代方案，很多baby boomers要买不起健保了。活该！谁要他们是挺川主力！ |
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发帖数: 8906 | 40 Devil is in the details. 不交税的如果可以白拿钱的话真没多少动力abuse the
system |
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发帖数: 4192 | 41 谁告诉你花不了多少钱。CBO的报告是每年100B。GOP自己的数字是每年30B。当然，比
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发帖数: 5600 | 44 Uninsured to increase by 14mm by 2018, 24mm by 2026 after Medicaid
expansion is removed
Premium to increase by 15-20% by 2018
Deficit to be reduced by $337B |
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发帖数: 29576 | 45 这鸟 C B O 当年算出obamacare 会降低医疗成本 |
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发帖数: 61690 | 46 主党确实厉害。搞得这个medicaid expansion,一下子就把obamacare立于不败之地了。 |
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发帖数: 29576 | 47 福利只要发出去就断不掉，普西国就这样一步步破产
: 主党确实厉害。搞得这个medicaid expansion,一下子就把obamacare立于不败之
地了。
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发帖数: 5600 | 49 Obamacare核心问题就是低估了健康人虽然有强制还是不买保险，Pool里病人越来越多
，趋势和预测方向恰恰相反
可惜的是，这学费看来还是白交了。新的ryancare/trumpcare这个漏洞更大了 |
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h*******n
发帖数: 8906 | 50 巴马care的问题是保的项目太多 这是福利项目 搞点基本的就可以了
一半人不交钱政府帮忙买医保的都享受免费变性手术以及术后心理咨询的大保健 不破
产才奇怪 |
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