T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 1 I think you guys all have a misconception of flop bet size .
Flop bet $100 or $70 doesn't mean anything. Low stake live poker have a
different bet size structure than online game. For example, online preflop
raise usually is 3-4bb, and yet in the live poker, you often see people
raise 5-7bb preflop, in a action table, sometimes ppl even 9bb-10bb preflop,
creating a pot which is very big already, even before the flop.
In OP's case, from online player's perspective, he only bet 1/3 of the flop,
se... 阅读全帖 |
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E*******r
发帖数: 520 | 2 TEN TIPS TO BEAT LIVE CASH GAMES
LIVE AID
BY ROSS JARVISNOVEMBER 2009
Training sites like CardRunners and PokerXFactor have a lot to answer for. A
few years ago, online poker rooms were swarming with fish readily handing
over their money on a daily basis. Unfortunately those days are over. While
you still might come across a dream table from time to time, it’s clear
that there’s been a gradual improvement online to the point that even at
lower limits such as $0.25/$0.50 you’ll find regular caree... 阅读全帖 |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 4 Sorry for my mistake.
That rate should be (flop see, win rate)
The definition is
Win % when See Flop = (Flop Wins + Turn Wins + River Wins) / Flops Seen
Similarly, there is a stats relate to (flop see, fold rate)
Fold % When See Flop = (Flop Folds + Turn Folds + River Folds) / Flops Seen |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 5 play money games比较乱来，不好说。
不过俺觉得这牌看flop就够了，turn (Kc)和river (8d)基本上是blank。
一个loose的选手，Kx在turn上不raise你比较不现实，river上用仅仅8x来突然all-in
也过了。除开这个one pair hand，这个Kc，8d几乎没有improve什么drawing hands的
可能，flush不存在，8d貌似有straight可能，但是考虑flop 6s,4h,3c，只有57可能，
而早也flopped了，所以这也是个假命题。
那么KK，88，K8等monster呢，也经不起一路的推敲，KK preflop早动手了，88在这种
low flop也应该有所表示，K8的话，flop纯属乱来，turn上不bet也不合理。
如果他有6x，flop上应该不会太weak(对于loose而言)。如果是46, 36这样的牌，在
flop和turn上应该至少有一处搞你一下。
其他PP牌可以基本忽略。
回到只看flop定胜负的假设，最合理的牌其实只有３把：
1) 33/44/66，巨无霸，你一路都是way behind |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 6 1) you called, bb also called for odds. after flop everyone checks and you
have air
2) you called, bb also called for odds. after flop bb bets half pot CO call
and you have air
3) you called, bb also called for odds. after flop bb bets half pot CO call
and you have middle or small pair
4)you called, bb also called for odds. after flop bb bets half pot or pot
size CO call and you have top pair of 10 but very weak kicker.
5) you 3 bet, CO calls, after flop CO checks you have air
6) you 3 bets, CO... 阅读全帖 |
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D*****A
发帖数: 551 | 7 A Foolproof Strategy for Wild Games，就是一个对付狂野 game的傻瓜战术。
小标题是Buy in a little shorter and get your money in early with good hands,
应该是说，开始少买进，然后用好牌赢最开始的启动资金。
文章如下：
最近，我玩了个狂野的2-5无限。最大买进是500，但是整个桌子上至少有8000元。有4
个人手里有1500以上。这样的桌子，要么是已经开了很长时间，要么是人们不停的 all
in，筹码在不同主人的手中快速更替，不断有人输光了再买。
但一般说来，松而凶的选手是最可能赢最多钱的。
还是回到我的2-5 game。我一般会买最多的量-500，给自己最大的赢的机会。但我的傻
瓜战术是只买300，就是60倍的BB。上篇我说了，经常买比最大值少一点的筹码去搞定
他们。因为少了可以变多，而多了却不能拿走，除非输掉。
60倍BB是这个战术的第一步。
在这样的可以 game里，许多人非常松，你的RAISE 也很难打走人。我上去先输了一手
，我对J被一个56给干掉了，他2付对。观察了一会后... 阅读全帖 |
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T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 8 Harrington's book has a exact same example and I think it is very useful.
It is all about opponents range and distribution. If he is tight, say vpip/
pfr like 8/8, 10/8, most likely he plays high card or high pair.
A 6d3d6h board is very good flop for 77s against tight player. Most of his
range missed the flop and there is only small pct that he had flush draw. I
like your check-raise on the flop. If he doesn't have a over pair, then it
is very hard for him to proceed.
Note that you can't just c... 阅读全帖 |
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S*********e
发帖数: 865 | 10 第一次打200多的，还是有点畏首畏尾
PokerStars Game #58776738988: Tournament #409020010, $200+$15 USD Hold'em No
Limit - Level V (150/300) - 2011/03/06 16:44:29 CT [2011/03/06 17:44:29 ET]
Table '409020010 2054' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: genes111 (3688 in chips)
Seat 2: 7days1week (10340 in chips)
Seat 3: MrJansson (16824 in chips)
Seat 4: paveplanet (14723 in chips)
Seat 5: scorpchess (14815 in chips)
Seat 6: pinkyringjim (24455 in chips)
Seat 7: AllRake2Me (10175 in chips)
Seat 8: Koningmarty (12626 ... 阅读全帖 |
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S*********e
发帖数: 865 | 11 还有这手，想trap。
PokerStars Game #58783127918: Tournament #409020010, $200+$15 USD Hold'em No
Limit - Level XI (600/1200) - 2011/03/06 18:40:27 CT [2011/03/06 19:40:27
ET]
Table '409020010 1566' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: yearnforu (18946 in chips)
Seat 2: sandler1860 (12900 in chips)
Seat 3: tread62 (69008 in chips)
Seat 4: rumbEL (13113 in chips)
Seat 5: EmmitSmith (66906 in chips)
Seat 6: aidansdad (34807 in chips)
Seat 7: fattony852 (55963 in chips)
Seat 8: Lovapoker (27225 in chips)
Sea... 阅读全帖 |
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S*********e
发帖数: 865 | 12 i hate this one. usually i will shove on flop.
On the river, i knew he only had ace high and after hesitation
i didn't all in.
PokerStars Game #58782022100: Tournament #409020010, $200+$15 USD Hold'em No
Limit - Level X (500/1000) - 2011/03/06 18:19:03 CT [2011/03/06 19:19:03 ET]
Table '409020010 2296' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: Manta_Rays (29216 in chips)
Seat 2: DeutschLips (78376 in chips)
Seat 3: zjusuibian (22450 in chips)
Seat 4: DrUPSWING (11051 in chips)
Seat 5: koval2005 (44543... 阅读全帖 |
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S*********e
发帖数: 865 | 13 opponent is a loose player. I put him on 89,9T sth. should i call river?
PokerStars Game #58776446131: Tournament #409020010, $200+$15 USD Hold'em No
Limit - Level V (150/300) - 2011/03/06 16:39:54 CT [2011/03/06 17:39:54 ET]
Table '409020010 2054' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: genes111 (5038 in chips)
Seat 2: 7days1week (14415 in chips)
Seat 3: MrJansson (17274 in chips)
Seat 4: paveplanet (14723 in chips)
Seat 5: scorpchess (14665 in chips)
Seat 6: pinkyringjim (19480 in chips)
Seat 7: A... 阅读全帖 |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 14 So glad someone came out and says QQ is possible.. hehe..
One thing I have learned in poker recently is "Never say never in poker". Do
I think he should have bet with QQ on the flop? yes. But can he check call
on that flop? of course. our midstake pro player checked his AA after flop
with a wet board. Why don't you ask him why he checked that flop where I
think it is a 100% c bet vs that particular passive nit.
not long ago, I love to argue with people on the "correct" play. Nowadays,
when I di... 阅读全帖 |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 15 So glad someone came out and says QQ is possible.. hehe..
One thing I have learned in poker recently is "Never say never in poker". Do
I think he should have bet with QQ on the flop? yes. But can he check call
on that flop? of course. our midstake pro player checked his AA after flop
with a wet board. Why don't you ask him why he checked that flop where I
think it is a 100% c bet vs that particular passive nit.
not long ago, I love to argue with people on the "correct" play. Nowadays,
when I di... 阅读全帖 |
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l*****g
发帖数: 1128 | 16 几天没上网，今天终于忍不住了，提着电脑到麦当劳写REPORT。早就想写了，但跑酒店
一问，竟然要网费要15刀一天，也太坑人了吧。所以就忍到今天才来开写。
先交代一下上次VEGAS回来后的状况吧。上次回去之后跑LOCAL打了两次1－3NL，输得很
惨。去的时间不对，是WEEKDAY去的，全是REGULAR，我LOOSE，别人更LOOSE，我
AGRESSIVE，人家更AGRESSIVE.啥牌都CALL,都CHASE。第一次去玩竟然一下就输了900，
一上来就AA 在BB，RAISE到18，7个人CALL。FLOP 3 4 K，两张黑桃，BET 60， 一老头
CALL，其他人FOLD了。TURN 7，估计老头应该是在CHASE FLUSH，应该不会CALL 18
WITH 65，所以就 ALL IN 120，老头立马CALL，亮出5 6 黑桃。我问老头如果7没来他
CALL 不CALL我的ALL-IN，老头说他肯定FOLD。所以觉得自己也没打错，谁知到他会有
STRAIGHT 和FLUSH DRAW呢。马上又RE-BUY 200， QKo 在BTN， UTG RAISE 到17，由于
有... 阅读全帖 |
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c****1
发帖数: 457 | 17 Thanks for all the replies and suggestions.
My image on the table is tricky. I only have one showdown (except preflop
all in with short stack) with flopped baby flush. Other than that, I check
raised turn once and got opponents to fold.
I don't incline to fold the flop. To justify the preflop call, we must be
able to win some pots in position with floating and bluffing with
appropriate board texture. Whether I can hit my 4 outs is not that important
. Whether i can bluff him off the pot and when... 阅读全帖 |
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T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 18 Went to NL 2/5 table and bought $200.
A few mins down to $135. A guy in EP raised $30, fold all the way to me at
btn with AKs. I shoved. The guy tanked and then called. "I gamble!" he
yelled. Flop T, 7, 5, I though "ugh", but wait, he was yelling "9, 9, I need
9". Ok, you are still drawing? good. No 9 on the river. I felt I was
winning. until that guy told me "I only have a T". What? He turned over T9o,
f**k, no wonder.
Re-bought $250. Was raising a lot in LP and stealing the pot before this
han... 阅读全帖 |
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T********n
发帖数: 528 | 19 不知道是不是有另外一个潭老师，可是我这个贪吃贪睡的人来回复一下吧～
Welcome to LHE! It is indeed a different type of game with different skill
sets, more social, bigger swings, and a lot of fun.
As you probably know by now, most people buy in for one to two racks, but no
more than that. As long as you have enough chips to put in the max bets
per street, you don't need more of that on the table at once.
5/10属于“no fold'em hold'em"的系列。基本上是showdown poker，best hand wins
。所以就是bet it when you have it, raise it when you have the best ... 阅读全帖 |
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r******j
发帖数: 8 | 20 这周末去了foxwoods，打了10hour+，起起落落，有些hand自认为打得不错，有些也
make了donkey call，贴几手印象比较深的牌出来，供大家讨论。
刚坐下没多久，拿到JJ在UTG，因为这桌人比较loose，所以打算limp后reraise。果然
一个MP LAG open 15, two callers。于是我make it 50 to go,希望他们fold。结果
original raiser fold,不过另外两个callers snap call，于是觉得大事不妙，我有点
overplay我的JJ了，加上position不好。flop出来一张K，只能check，第一个caller立
即bet 100，fold to me，我想了一会儿也fold了，raiser show了我AK，至少还算是个
nice fold。不过我觉得在UTG的地方不该这样打JJ，不知道大家怎么看？
接下来一段时间一直有draw，但是就是hit不上，连2次OESW都miss了，于是rebuy 200
，又一直down到35，都绝望了....一手AJ all in 赢了，于是有了接下来这手... 阅读全帖 |
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h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 21 绝对抛砖啊。。level 1。。PLO号称nuts game，不是nuts拿不下pot。
pre flop：一般raise hand至少有大对，double suited and at least with one Ax,
4 cards working together or at least 3 cards working together (like T987 A98
7 with Ax suited)。不过这个tounament不是真钱，非常loose，8754杂花、TJ66等牌r
aise的人很多，甚至还有JJJx这种垃圾牌爆入的。PLO另一特点是没什么牌pre flop we
ll ahead，要是HU很可能是50:50，所以loose raise的人也不能说有什么大错。。所以
最简单的方法就是：raise再raise。。
要是觉得这种打法太无聊，那还是回到好牌limp/raise的范围。看到flop后。。
如果flop了set，基本是当前nuts，但很可能是river的loser，因为有可能被higher se
t/full house，或是flush/straight ... 阅读全帖 |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 22 1/2 玩了几小时。 碰到2 pair, set, trips 多次，碰到quad 几次。 只输了两百刀
。 少输就是赢, 哥输钱也很自豪。。
AK EP raise 11$. 2 caller, MP, Button. flop 9d5d4s. check check check.
turn 5c. check check check.
river 2h. check check button 15$. call. button pocket 5.
couple limpers, got JJ at button. raise to 15$. all fold, big fish at CO
calls.
flop 964 rainbow. fish got 94o.
several limpers. raise to 17 at LP QQ. all fold except EP short stack.
FLOP Ah9h6h. I got Q of heart. EP short stack fish donk 30$ have very
l... 阅读全帖 |
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T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 23 我现在打牌基本上像白开水，没什么上上下下的，打得比较稳，所以也没什么好讲的。
周末 Foxwoods 给了一个房间, 所以就去了玩了两天。头一天玩了几个小时 2/5，没什
么大 pot ，比较 standard, 用什么牌赢的都忘了，结果 up 600- 走人。
晚上吃完 buffet，想去 poker room 再玩会儿时间，赢钱了就怕把钱输回去，就打 1/
2 算了，1/2 的人水平比较次，波动也比较小，赢不了大钱也不会输大钱。
一路上碰到几个白妞，穿着曝露，一看就是去开 party。看到赌场里白妞去开 party
的时候大把，不过要么脸长的像猪，要么身材像猪。今天看到的几个倒是要身材有身材
，要脸蛋有脸蛋。旁边男的却都是老黑。哥咽下口水，f**k, 这辈子泡漂亮白妞就算了
，哥是只能拿好人卡，当好男人了。等哥下辈子投胎当风流男，要当瓜瓜，宗瑞，冠希
，要泡好多好多妞，白妞，亚妞，棕妞，好多好多好多好多。。。
题扯远了。下面是一些当晚的经历：
1. 桌上要么是 nit, 要么是极 loose。坐我左边白老头是 loose 中的 loose，我给他
搞了一把 call 我 $12 A... 阅读全帖 |
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g******n
发帖数: 53185 | 24 跟朋友刚开始去没多久，被bad beat好多次，我拿的都是pocket aces，赌场里面一群
赌徒。
玩的是2/3NL，一次是pre flop raise到100刀，敌人pocket 9 call了，flop 有个k，
我剩下的150刀all in，pot 大概是210刀左右。敌人认为我是AK，还是call了我150刀
，runner runner 丫中了个 straight。
另外一个赌徒K2o,pre flop raise 20刀想偷，我手里80多刀推他all in，他call了，
flop 有个K，runner runner两个2，丫中了个full house。
还有一次敌人手里A10o,pre flop 我raise到45刀，他call。flop他中了个10，top
pair，我all in 100多刀，他说有feeling就call了，river中了个10，尼马没天理。
最惨的一次是pre flop四五个人都bet了15刀，我raise到60刀, 一个pocket Qs call了
，后面一个deep stack K4c 也call了。flop出来都是小牌，有两张club。... 阅读全帖 |
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x*******0
发帖数: 94 | 25 我觉得utg open raise 但flop不cbet本身就满可疑的。我觉得NL600这个级别的对手基
本都有一点水平，什么cbet还是会的。 在一个AKK那么dry的flop check明显已经有非
常强的牌了，如果他check range很可能已经在最少有个K的位置，试问他open raise，
他的range会是什么？
Pair， AX，KQ,？flop AKK， utg 如果有A,那么他会 bet，如果有pair，可能会bet
，但是check了，太可疑了，是我，我会check behind。 我觉得check会比较好，看他
turn什么action。俗话说weak is strong，strong is weak。试问当你flop nuts or
monster的时候 基本都是check call，希望对方有点货。 所以他check 如果你check，
也可以present 你有A大kicker 或者有K，主要楼主你的牌力太弱，只有4 outs 去拿个
strong hand且不是nuts，拿到可能性比较低，所以投入那么多钱去semi bluff不值得。
且你flop g... 阅读全帖 |
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f********d
发帖数: 796 | 26 本次session大概2个小时，50手牌左右，买入200刀，最高时候水上150多，最后水上75
离开。如果没有记错我只有一次btn没有open。原因是在我前面已经有人open了。
拿到一次AA（第一次现场拿到AA），一次TT，其他的都是AX牌
limper还是一样的多。我在后位拿到AX统统open 18.就这样打了3圈没有一手show down
，水上30多刀。
桌上一个半醉鱼，2个白人老头，2个白人中年男。一个墨镜年轻白男，他是唯一和我一
样的紧凶abc牌手。其他都是鱼。
大部分人的打法就是有好牌就open 10刀左右，没有就看情况limp。
牌例按时间顺序
牌例1：
hero at btn with A7o。 4 limpers. hero open 18. a half drunk fish at utg
call.
flop A75 rainbow. check to hero. bet 16. he call.
turn is 8, still rainbow. check check/
river is 4, check, hero bet 35. fold
t... 阅读全帖 |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 27 Sorry for my mistake.
That rate should be (flop see, win rate)
The definition is
Win % when See Flop = (Flop Wins + Turn Wins + River Wins) / Flops Seen
Similarly, there is a stats relate to (flop see, fold rate)
Fold % When See Flop = (Flop Folds + Turn Folds + River Folds) / Flops Seen |
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c****e
发帖数: 2127 | 28 应该不是，台上4张都是明的
Play begins with each player being dealt two cards face down, with the
player in the small blind receiving the first card and the player in the
button seat receiving the last card dealt. (As in most poker games, the deck
is a standard 52-card deck containing no jokers.) These cards are the
players' hole or pocket cards. These are the only cards each player will
receive individually, and they will only (possibly) be revealed at the
showdown, making Texas hold 'em a closed poker game... 阅读全帖 |
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n*******y
发帖数: 3337 | 29 【 以下文字转载自 TexasHoldem 讨论区 】
发信人: fcf (fcf), 信区: TexasHoldem
标 题: 扑克玩家的成长
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Feb 7 10:58:11 2010, 美东)
转发一个我几个月以前写的东西
扑克玩家的成长
这是我对扑克玩家的成长一点心得，不一定都是对的，总是有特例的，但我想对大
多数人来说是差不多的。
级别1：
刚刚学会打牌的规则，没有任何技巧的概念，打牌基本是乱玩。
级别2：
看了一点资料，可能看了一本书，知道了pot odds, position, 知道了打牌要tight
aggressive, 不过其实并不懂为什么， 也不知道怎么样打才叫tight aggressive, 打
牌的技巧基本只知道preflop, flop, 如果问问题的话，一般只记得自己有什么牌，
flop上有什么牌，对每个人的动作只记得是bet/check/raise, 不在意下注的大小，
大家的位置，stack 大小，等等。这时候记得的牌多半是AA/KK 这种牌。
级别3：
玩了上万手牌了，输了一些，这是一个分界线，有些人输了就... 阅读全帖 |
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f*f
发帖数: 121 | 30 I think the most important thing you did wrong was not think about river
when you made that raise on the turn, given stack size, if you want to float
his turn bet (which I think it's a good idea because his turn donk range
usually is a weak pair, but he will often donk/call because his weak pair
could easily also have some gutshot draw), you should just call, then when
he checks river, you can shove. By calling the turn, you actually still
keep all strong hands in your range as you can easily b... 阅读全帖 |
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c****1
发帖数: 457 | 31 haha, I busted Joseph Cheong,one of November 9 a couple of days ago.
If there are more than 36 players in the field , you will get a t-shirt and buy-in refunded. I really hope they could imprint the pro name you busted on the t-
shirt. that would be sweet.
Full Tilt Poker Game #25012821334: Turbo Fiddy (193497560), Table 26 - 150/
300 Ante 25 - No Limit Hold'em - 01:52:15 ET - 2010/10/26
Seat 1: AlexandraPaul (4,990)
Seat 2: CCBOGEY (3,875)
Seat 3: LDL_24 (3,100)
Seat 4: cmis91 (5,970)
Seat 5: F... 阅读全帖 |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 32 I was in a rush and did not finish. I want to add a few more points.
The advantage of having a tight starting range is very obvious and it should
give you a steady and good winrate at microstake or vs some opponents at
small stake, but why does it not work as well when you level up facing
tougher opponents? It is because people will adjust towards your range post
flop if they are good regs. FCF also pointed out before that the easiest
player to play against is people with nittiest vpip because t... 阅读全帖 |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 33 This series of articles describes a model for player development that I call
Stages Of A TAG. I think most players go through a series of stages or
realizations about no-limit hold’em as they improve their games from rank
beginners to decent tight-aggressive (TAG) players and beyond.
In total I have identified 25 stages that I think most players go through,
roughly in order, as they improve. This article begins with Stage 6.
Stage 6. I can semibluff decent draws postflop with essentially no adde... 阅读全帖 |
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T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 34 脱着疲惫的身躯，回到家倒在床上就睡。醒来后，还搞不清楚是怎么回事。
跟大家兄弟相聚是愉快的，见到了好多在 mitbbs 上的名 id。特别是与 fryking 老大
去年一别，想当初在 AC 碰头时，大雪纷飞，积雪余尺，不想一晃已经一年，fryking
老大还是风采依旧，我俩的减肥计划也仍旧在失败中。就像 cmis 说的一样，一年一次
见面实在太少，平时去赌场玩牌，都被圈外人丑化成赌博，但一群同好中就明白，打牌
就跟炒股一样，是智慧，决策和纪律性的考验。有一大帮人在赌场里成群结队的 grind
， 比一个人孤军奋战，有趣的多。
据说这次大家去，成绩参差不齐。我当然就当之无愧的成为了副班长。这次的亏损，要
接下去在网上 grind 1,2 个月才能把洞填平。
三次悲剧的过程基本是这样的。
1。$200 buy-in NL 2/5, 小输 60， 再 re-buy 100，grind 小钱，悲剧发生前 stack
$267。刚换了位子，嫌自己的位子运气不好，card dead。刚换新位子，旁边的人提醒
这位子也邪门，余不信。
UTG limp with 33, 后面人 raise 到 20... 阅读全帖 |
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T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 35 actually tight player's range is relatively easy to figure out. in multi way
part the ppl I am afraid of is those loose goose player. especially those
flop seems wet.
against such a tight player with vpip 10 and pfr 6 and c-3-bet 45, the card
he can call your three bet come down to this: pair jj or higher , Ak suited
or off-suited. that is it. that construct to be 3% of ranges which he can
all your 3-bet range.
AA or Kk is less likely since he face a raise and reraise before him as a
tight reg, ... 阅读全帖 |
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h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 36 The stacks in the example are kind of deep. So raising on flop seems better.
Otherwise....
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When you raise flop and get a call, the caller very likely have set or made
(good) flush and maybe high flush draw.
For made (at least Q high) flush, you have very good chance to get them in
at turn or river as well, because the chance of another flush card is low
after 7 of them are already there. But I think the chance is even better if
you raise right here because they may think you're semi-bluffi... 阅读全帖 |
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h*****e
发帖数: 215 | 37 昨天在Las vegas Venetian poker room, 2 am, 1/2 NL game 9人桌子.
桌子上不少大筹码，粗粗估计了一下，3，4个人在8，900左右，还有1家大概600的样子
。我是400多点，算是小筹码了。
大家都打的很疯狂，经常pre flop就3-bet raise，然后在flop和turn也很多action，
其实应该是最理想的情况，我开始耐心地等待机会。
第一手：
我是在BB,然后mp的人raise to 12, 有几个caller,ＳＢ也call. I have AA, 我加注到
65，这样fold到一个late position的美国guy,他想了好一会，然后call,这样就heads
up.
开牌是 58T，两个黑桃8T，然后我看了一下，说all in,他又想了好一会儿，然后说
gamble吧(他大概有200左右剩下)，I got him covered.
Turn is 2, river is 7. 他翻出黑桃 J9,ｓｔｒａｉｇｈｔ． 激动的上蹿下跳的。
我想我也许在flop上 bet 1/2ｐｏｔ更好，这样turn上Push all-... 阅读全帖 |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 38 随便写在zhiyoucheng的..这也帖一下~~~
3 bet, 也就是在有人preflop raise 的情况下加注. 这是一个NLH里极其赚钱的手段,
简单原因是因为你有很多fold equity. 如果对手每次都call, flop 后miss 就fold.
长期你肯定赚钱, 因为他miss 可能比make 大得多~~如何对应3 bet 也是一个很大的课
题. 很多时候的共识是在被人3 bet 的情况下, 基本都是-ev,除非你恰好有AA, 主要
讨论是如何减少-ev 的程度. 我不讨论这个问题, 只是想说明为十么3 bet 那么
profitable.
3 bet 分几个阶段, 根据牌手的不同水平. 这和thinking level 很象, level 越高,
对手的level 也要相应高, 否则反而适得其反.
level 1 : 从不3 bet. 这个低级别的选手不懂3 bet, 有十么牌都call. 基本属于
不会打.
level 2: 会3 bet purely for value, 基本只3 bet AA KK QQ. AK 对于他们都属于
drawin... 阅读全帖 |
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S*********e
发帖数: 865 | 39 another one. AA lose
PokerStars Game #58787950428: Tournament #409020010, $200+$15 USD Hold'em No
Limit - Level XVIII (3000/6000) - 2011/03/06 20:35:46 CT [2011/03/06 21:35:
46 ET]
Table '409020010 3178' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: MUCHACHON (268935 in chips)
Seat 2: SchebatNaze9 (87020 in chips)
Seat 3: 7days1week (95064 in chips)
Seat 4: snoopzzz (80739 in chips)
Seat 5: mapolix (123574 in chips)
Seat 6: Bommel222 (238515 in chips)
Seat 7: zaffar (174821 in chips)
Seat 8: Fresian_Blue... 阅读全帖 |
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S*********e
发帖数: 865 | 40 and my final hand.
PokerStars Game #58788637744: Tournament #409020010, $200+$15 USD Hold'em No
Limit - Level XIX (4000/8000) - 2011/03/06 20:54:59 CT [2011/03/06 21:54:59
ET]
Table '409020010 3178' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: MUCHACHON (227979 in chips)
Seat 2: CoLa7687 (79014 in chips)
Seat 3: 7days1week (79819 in chips)
Seat 4: snoopzzz (409356 in chips)
Seat 5: mapolix (176424 in chips)
Seat 6: Bommel222 (107674 in chips)
Seat 7: wilsonII85 (136184 in chips)
Seat 8: TSmaLL888 (68498 ... 阅读全帖 |
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T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 41 I agree, not betting on flop and find out where I am was a huge mistake on
my part.
for some reason where I play this hand I remember the harrington's book that
you need to control the pot by check either the flop or turn.
well, based on my experience checking on the flop when you very likely have
the best hand often is a huge mistake. on the flop , many opponent still in
the hand and you will have big trouble to figure out if turn card help
anyone in the hand because you are giving it free. a... 阅读全帖 |
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Y**X
发帖数: 241 | 42 我也发现有这个Hot Streak的问题。
Played 15/30 limit recently, two loose guys raised Ax, Kx before flop and 80
% of time they rivered two pair, or straight, or flush! I thought I am a
much better player than them and I thought I could beat them, but when I did
start with a much better hand pre-flop, I always ended up being sucked out on
the river. Once I had AA, raised pre-flop. Flop AhTc8d, I bet, the guy
called, turn Qh, I bet, he called, rivered 6h, I checked, he flipped over
Jh5h.
After I hit Royal Flu... 阅读全帖 |
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l*****g
发帖数: 1128 | 43 来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 终于回来了 唉，昨天最后一天战绩很差，不但没赢钱，还输了快两百了。玩了两个TOURNAMENT，第
一个玩得还行，但是整个桌上刚好全是疯子，BLIND 100－200，RAISE 2000，57o 这种
牌都照CALL，而且个个都很LAG，害我的AGRESSION都没办法发挥作用，因为他们都是死
都要CALL和要CHASE的那种。有一次我RAISE800，6个人CALL我，我实在忍不住问道：“
你们到底是在打CASH GAME 还是TOURNAMENT？没见过这么LOOSE的TABLE.”后来我只能
调整战术等好牌来惩罚这些FISH了。终于等到AA。我EP。AVERAGE STACK SIZE. BLIND
100-200.UTG SUPER LAG RAISED TO 600, 我RERAISE到2000，坐我下面的老黑(the
most loose tournament player I've ever seen) CALL了，其他人FOLD了。FLOP 6 9
9 RB， UTG 马上BET 4500，我知道这种FLOP我是WAY AHEAD，然后也知道老黑是有什么
都会CALL的，而且他刚... 阅读全帖 |
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c******q
发帖数: 456 | 44 1/2 game at harrah's chester. These hands are more for entertaining purpose,
therefore I will share the hole cards with you as well.
Hand 1: I started this hand with $130ish. UTG straddled. One old guy called
at MP, all folded to me and I called on BB with 45c. UTG then made it $22 to
go, both of the old guy and myself called. Flop was 347r with 7c. UTG c-
betted $40 and the old guy quickly called. I had a middle pair, a gutter,
and a backdoor flush draw. Based on the way played, I put both of t... 阅读全帖 |
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l*****g
发帖数: 1128 | 45 打牌我觉得首先要精力集中，吃好，睡好。不要给自己太大压力，太大压力会影响发挥
。技术上我认为一定要AGGRESSIVE。要敢BET，千万不要想我要输了怎么办，只要你认
为RAISE或ALL-IN在这个时候是正确的MOVE，那就不要犹豫，不要想着输了可是好多钱
之类的。昨天我无数次想RAISE他们，因为我知道他们也没HIT FLOP，但都犹豫了，怕
输钱，玩得一点都放不开，最后结局很惨。今天表现好多了，有时我知道对家比我牌大
，但又不是很STRONG， 我一般就RAISE，最后他们都FOLD了。下面举几个例子。
Caesars, 1-3NL. I had stack of 260. I had Q9 on LP. Limped pot. Flop 10s 6s
3d. All checked to me. I bet out 18$. MP super LAG called. all others folded
. Turn was a Kh. He immediately bet 75$. I really didn't think he hit the K.
I knew I cou... 阅读全帖 |
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s******e
发帖数: 44 | 46 才回到村里，好好休息了以下，今天也还要开学，所以现在才爬上来看看。
继续在威尼斯人玩，因为5号上来输了300，所以准备去2/5找点损失，嘿嘿。先说下业
务吧，1000+ 2天，惭愧惭愧。
发现打2/5比打1/2还是要灵活的多，bluff，reraise显得都比较有力度，打1/2，有些
人你是吓也吓不走，赶也赶不走。刚坐到一个must move桌的时候，就喜欢reraise人家
，因为他不了解你，所以他一般还是会怂的，我喜欢3倍reraise人家，没有理论依据，
纯属个人爱好，3倍还是比较有力量的。在那个must move桌上，抓到一个思密达阿姨，
fish. I call 35 with Qh 10h on BB. flop 7 J K all heart. Now I have a royal
draw,but the Ah is too shy to show up. I check, all check to 思密达，she
raise to 60, I just call. others fold（也许手里米有红桃）。turn 10s, I still
check and w... 阅读全帖 |
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l*****g
发帖数: 1128 | 47 写的很好，恭喜！
最失败的slow play
还是在2/5. 我手上有1.4k了。我是big blind. my hand is AA.
raised to 40, 2 ppl called.
flop is flop A83. What a great flop. Cann't be better. no
flush draw, no straigt draw. I checkd.
turn is T. still no flush draw. possible inside straig draw.
I still checked.
river is Q. I bet 65, one guy raise to 150, another guy fold.
I didnot think too much and all in. The guy called, show his
KJ.
I lose 400in this hand. What a stupid slow play
这手牌几乎和我以... 阅读全帖 |
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j**y
发帖数: 7014 | 48 2/5的table，local casino, 8-handed table
Hand 1: EP (reg solid white oldman) raise to 20，3 caller ahead of me. I (so
lid and aggressive image to the table) am at BB，AQo, raise to $120. Only EP
left in the pot. We both have ~$300 left behind.
Flop: Qc,10d,2d.
My thinking: EP did not have QQ or higher pairs, otherwise he would re-pop p
re-flop. So, only danger to me is 1010 or 22 in his hand. I can trap him by
presenting missed the flop.
So, I checked. EP looked at me for ~2-sec and bet to All-In.
I... 阅读全帖 |
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c****1
发帖数: 457 | 49 打了平生第一个PLO tournament，挺有意思的，居然还拿了第一。没多少，一个才27
个人玩，第一名575.运气不错，两次all in都是runner runner straight把别人suck
out了。 然后就杯具了，全输在cash game上了，见识了大凶鱼是如何咬死捕鱼人的。
故事是这样的，赢了tournament后在那吃东西，然后过来一个local pro，向我透露一
个桌子上有大鱼，他三个小时从300到1800. 吃了东西遂上桌，观察一下确实有三条鱼
，一个长得像T-bag，有一半情况是不看牌就blind bet25-40，另一个是德州牛仔鱼，
也是把把raise。 还一条鱼脑袋特别大，姑且叫他大头鱼。三条大鱼吸引来4,5个打的
还不错的regular（大部分我都认识），很快我的chips从200涨到450,20分钟内，我看
Tbag已经reload两次，牛仔reload三次。不过，不过，不过， 风云突变。
hand1: 一个reg reraise到50，三条鱼都call。flop 8d7dKs, reg bet 100, 大头fish
call，turn blan... 阅读全帖 |
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l*****g
发帖数: 1128 | 50 咋回事？天哪！看半天终于发现咋回事了。fryking,您就放过我的ID吧。不过，也怪我
，怎么搞了个这么多漏洞的ID。不过我昨晚还真是赢了1350左右，但在那之前的一个
SESSION又输了950，那个晚上完全在ON TILT，又累又急躁，自己当时也知道自己完全
在乱来，还有600多的时候我就知道我会输光走人的，那个晚上应该是我ON-TILT最严重
的一个晚上。回来的路上还被警察抓了超速，开了罚单，回来后悔的都想QUIT POKER了
。后来想想也活该，谁叫我自己这样没纪律性，没点节制，拿自己拼老命赢的钱不当钱
，乱DONATE，是得输多点给个教训。其实我那晚一直都有赢300多的，但就是不走，明
显都累得不行了，还死赖着玩，最后输了3个BUY-IN，多出的50又是在等位置的时候玩
老虎机给输的，真是丢人。
那晚回来后，我认真总结了一下自己最近的表现，发现这段时间每次都是以输700，800
开始，而且都是短时间内输那么多，是很有原因的。虽然前面几次都最后以赢结尾，但
还是发现自己打法上出现很大变化，不知不觉又变回以前那种SUPER LOOSE的打法，什
么破牌烂牌都玩，什么都CHASE，... 阅读全帖 |
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