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w****1
发帖数: 4931 | 2 went to the shoe store today to get myself a pair of trail running shoes.
tried asics kahana, didn't feel right -- it was too soft. ended up buying
adidas kanadia TR 3. It's fairly light weight, and the soles are relatively
hard.
On the road: it feels a bit weird. There is not very much cushioning, but
fine with forefoot strike.
On dirt trail: pretty terrible. the traction isn't good on flat dirt trail.
definitely feels better in cumulus.
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A****t
发帖数: 759 | 3 my first official running shoes are NB WR749 for trail. Totally agree the
cushioning is great, not too soft and not too hard. It has thicker cushion
on the heel so I felt great during heel striking. Now it's OK, but a little
weird during forefoot landing. |
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z********0
发帖数: 9013 | 4 今天俺的kinvara到了，感觉挺好的。原本用nimbus，想强迫自己forefoot landing,
但总是觉得别扭，感觉要掂起脚。穿上kinvara，一下子觉得自然多了。不过calf还是
要继续适应。 |
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m**********t
发帖数: 75 | 5 forefoot landing对calf真是锻炼，小腿很明显酸胀。这一点偶还是很喜欢fivefinger
的，不过
每次都会起水泡然后前脚掌疼。很犹豫要不要试试bikila，好贵。 |
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A****t
发帖数: 759 | 6 我一直穿着鞋底厚厚的trail running shoes练习forefoot landing。这个鞋的脚后跟
比前面厚，还挺难练的。 |
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y******n
发帖数: 4527 | 8 nice video.
Did you take some pictures to show your landing at different pace?
But I can see your left foot landing with forefoot. Hard to see the right
foot.
In addition, you might need to show your upper body as well. |
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A****t
发帖数: 759 | 9 好像左脚很overpronate. 那个forefoot strike脚后跟挺高的. |
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w********6
发帖数: 12977 | 10 when I am running at 10.3mph, I have no way running other than forefoot
landing |
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R*****s
发帖数: 41236 | 11 nice! 都看了一遍， 小腿肌肉太强大了。。。
我的感觉是有力气的时候， 保持好的form还比较容易， 精疲力尽的时候，
就管不了那么多了。。。
.5mph, 10.3mph, forefoot strike. side view: |
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w****1
发帖数: 4931 | 12 I think my upper body became significantly more stable when I switched to
forefoot strike from heel strike. paw back is also important. you want to
whip your legs backward instead of trying to put your weight on them. |
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z********0
发帖数: 9013 | 13 Oh. OK. Thanks for the explanation. I misunderstood the concept of midfoot
striking.
Some articles I read say that, for forefoot striking, once the ball part of
the foot landed, it then rolls to the heel. Is that true? |
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b********a
发帖数: 5418 | 14 这小腿肌肉啊，真雄伟
9.5mph, 10.3mph, forefoot strike. side view: |
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y******n
发帖数: 4527 | 15 1. 第一次自己跑完这么长的距离，庆贺一把。前10个re的发包子。
2. 第一次早上8点就起来跑long，运气好赶上当地的一个小阴天，只有82F，有风，难
得的低温。但是很潮湿。如此天气当然performance不错。16迈2:22完成，平均心跳161
，但是最后5mile需要加速到faster end的时候，心跳已经上升到了tempo zone，所以
这个pace有水分。但是已经比我上次全马的表现好了，现在裸奔一个全马肯定能跑4小
时以内。
3. 人品爆发，跑步加cool down回到家，外面立刻就拨云见日，温度迅速上升。
4. 发现自己需要一双大半号的鞋。Asics Speedstar 4怎么样？
5. 发现自己下坡的时候好像还是heelstrike。我本来是heelstriker，后来慢慢练，向
forefoot landing转变。但是跑下坡的时候，感觉还是heelstrike，这个时候需要脚尖
向下蹬？还是大腿再抬高点？
6. 发现nike dryfit shirt的用法，跑几迈脱下来拧水，拧完水之后穿上，就是dryfit
了。再湿再脱再拧。（等会儿，我家里的抹布，不就是这么 |
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b***i
发帖数: 10018 | 16 下坡想forefoot landing需要身体向前倾。
speedstar是我在穿的鞋里面最好的，推荐。
161 |
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w****1
发帖数: 4931 | 17 When I run downhills, especially relatively steep downhills, if my legs are
fresh, I would lift my feet very high towards my butt, and still land on my
forefoot. It's basically sprinting form, but I let gravity do the work. just
have to make sure that the calfs are fresh enough to absorb the impact.
161 |
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y******n
发帖数: 4527 | 18 很多受伤都是下坡的时候跑快弄出来了。
我现在觉得heelstrike就是overstride造成的，如果刻意控制的话，就是forefoot，脚
趾都顶鞋的往前跑。 |
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y******n
发帖数: 4527 | 19 nice. no wonder it will help forefoot landing naturally.
However, running a FM with it is like running with barefoot, I guess.
So, wah!
一下 |
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o*******r
发帖数: 4921 | 20 我是纯粹的forefoot/mid footlanding,但是现在plantar fasciitis比较严重.
ITBS |
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z********0
发帖数: 9013 | 21 昨天练习forefoot striking, 开始不习惯，到了第6迈觉得习惯点了，觉得能跑完12迈
。不过在第10迈的时候觉得小腿有点不行了，就停下了。
今天右腿没感觉，左大腿正面和膝盖有点酸，不过还好。下午就去gym练了pull up和db
press, 然后就回家了。
就在家门口的时候，正要把鞋蹭掉（懒得解鞋带了），稍未一使劲，两个小腿同时抽筋
了，站不起来了，试了2次都不行。只能很窘的坐在家门口的地上，还故作镇定，故作
若无其事的样子，把鞋拽出来，假装研究鞋底。过了好一会，才扶墙进门，唉。
现在洗了个澡，一个小腿好了，另一个走路还疼呢。上来发贴问问有啥法子没？ |
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R*****s
发帖数: 41236 | 23 我的理解是前掌着地， 后跟着地用到的肌肉群不同， 一个累了，
换另一个 :D |
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b***i
发帖数: 10018 | 24 From my shoe wear pattern, i think my left leg is heel striking, right leg
is midfoot striking.
And from doing one legged squat, i also found my left leg is slightly
stronger than my right leg, not sure if this is related. |
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g*****r
发帖数: 4444 | 25 I think you will naturally do this when forefoot landing. |
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g****l
发帖数: 644 | 26 hip和knee还是有feeling
所以全程forefoot landing
calf酸阿。。 |
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g****l
发帖数: 644 | 27 xixi
恩，尤其累得时候噪声特别大
不过这个跑步机本身就是噪声大
我还在学习forefoot landing
拿它本身的噪声遮掩一下，lol
than |
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g****l
发帖数: 644 | 28 en，下次换安静的上
其实也没那么吵，赫赫
但是我看gym里，极少有人forefoot，而且如果是，声音都会大一点
一个9mph跑easy的大叔也是
own |
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w****1
发帖数: 4931 | 29 When I run on forefoot, there is much less noise than when I run on my heels. |
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s*******k
发帖数: 3071 | 30 好详细啊。多谢！对于forefoot runner也不好吗？我看了我的k15，鞋底跟部没磨损，
其实整双鞋都没什么磨损，很怪异，但是已经2年了，感觉不能太叩门，应该换一双。
如果对膝盖不好，那我就都不用试了，就全新的留着给我妈好了。
k15 |
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r*****p
发帖数: 531 | 31 I had SpeedStar for a while now (have the female version, men's version is
too wide for my feet), run a few short - HM races with them, feel kinda nice
. The stripes locked my forefoot well, do not have any problem with it. Like
it's light weight and the fact that it has enough cushion on heels, so
wouldn't be a problem if you run a slightly longer race in them. Just not
sure if they are good choices for a FM. |
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r*****p
发帖数: 531 | 32 How did your calves feel towards the end in this race?
I'm worrying since they have thick cushion on the heels but thin cushion on
the forefoot part, I feel I gain faster leg turnovers with this design, but
does it stress out your calves when adding on miles? |
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g****l
发帖数: 644 | 33 今天tempo了4迈，pace 8:54，加上warmup cooldown一共6迈
warm up的时候心跳一度到了175，后来降到135
tempo时候没有超过170，感觉还好
龟速的tempo还是挺爽的，哈哈
forefoot landing真的让knee和hip都没感觉
今天换了个安静的跑步机，还是有点噪声，虽然不是很明显了
感觉以前heel landing的时候是几乎没有声音的
回头拍个video自己看看怎么改进 |
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g*****r
发帖数: 4444 | 34 捐了吧，扔了多浪费。鞋跟厚的鞋练forefoot landing挺好。 |
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w********6
发帖数: 12977 | 35 最近走路脚腕噼里啪啦响声，估计是今年跑步姿势改变的缘故： forefoot landing,
high cadence, 结果就是从来没有出现的问题： 左边脚跟酸，估计是 Plantar fasciitis
的先兆，然后就是这个脚腕响声，虽然没有任何不适。
Piriformis 到今天都快7个月了，依然如故，虽然没有到必须休息不能跑的地步，真是
早已忘记啥是完全没病没痛，leg totally fresh 是啥滋味了。 |
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p***r
发帖数: 4859 | 36 今天终于跑了今年的第一个室外LONG。 气温也帮忙，早上9点多的时候才65F左右
。
还是有几个问题。
1. 近半个月都没有跑任何超过5Mile的，一下子上到13，还是有点不舒服。表现
就是右腿膝盖在11mile的时候发痛，最后就是走走跑跑回到停车场。
2. 室外的坡度完全打败跑步机，稍有坡度，这个速度就噌噌往下降。
3. 心跳还是控制在刻意接受的范围，大约是150左右。
4. 自从被批评脚跟着地以后，今天刻意地用midfoot，或forefoot。可惜没有录
像，不知道是不是如我想象。
下面训练要注意的。
1. 加强腿部和膝盖肌肉练习。 有啥姿势？
2. weekday还是要把距离提上去。这个时间上还是有难度。
3. long 10%继续增加 |
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w****1
发帖数: 4931 | 37 in mizuno wave universe, forefoot strike is the only option. the soles are
so thin that you can feel little rocks on the road.
normally, racing flats are recommended only for those who can run a sub 2:40
marathon. speedstar is not quite racing flats, so it's probably okay for
someone trying to run around 3 hours. at this point I have no plan to use
speedstar in marathon races - still need some time to experiment with it. |
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o*******r
发帖数: 4921 | 38 Welcome to forefoot landing.
fatboyslim's doctor recommended a few ways to stretch achilles tendon and
arch.
feel
This
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s******p
发帖数: 819 | 39 i think i mentioned this before. if you want to use forefoot landing, throw
away your regular running shoes. think about how much your heel need to be
raised with 20mm heel and at least 10mm heel to toe drop. |
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s******p
发帖数: 819 | 40 i am running only in xc flat now as when i am in regular running shoe, i can
feel very strong plantar fascia tension while forefoot, same as in water
shoes, the sole is too thin for 10mile+ on the hills.
gone
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m******g
发帖数: 516 | 41 Bought last Christmas when sports autority had buy one get one half off.
Only after 400 miles, the black out sole of the forefoot has worn out. All
my other Asics can pass 500 miles. |
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m****i
发帖数: 1980 | 42 真不爽TNND好像又受伤了
话说前天跑完左腿那好久没犯的itbs好像又开始蠢蠢欲发，昨天停跑，今天好像好了些
，决定跑个tempo，热身一迈然后开始加速，才加到9分的pace，左脚脚趾根部除了大脚
趾以外开始疼，好像是因为forefoot landing加正才尝试pawn back用力过度（或者说
体重太重，偶的脚趾支撑不住？？？）硬撑了半迈实在受不了减速到12分的pace，企图
跑跑就不疼了，但是未遂。。。最后只好停下，停止后发现走路都有些funny
回家后赶紧icing，然后吃了止痛片消严，谁知道这是怎么个伤？
TNND，真是闹心。。。 |
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w****1
发帖数: 4931 | 43 It's normal to have some discomfort in your feet when you start doing
barefoot or forefoot running. Normally, the injury that comes all of a
sudden also tends to go away quickly, as long as you don't push through the
pain recklessly. When I spent a week in Austin one time, I did a lot of
running on hilly concrete sidewalks and that gave me an inflamed tendon on
my foot for a couple days. It was quite painful initially but wasn't
anything serious and I recovered quickly. |
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g****g
发帖数: 1828 | 44 Forward versus Side-to-Side movement
The basic difference can be seen in their purposes and the resulting
appropriate levels of support stability and cushion.
An "all terrain" shoe is based on a classic running shoe design:
- Higher-heel, lower-footbed (for forward rocking-movement)
- Cushion in Heel and Ball-of-foot
- Roll-up toe
- Flexible forefoot
Additionally, "all terrain" shoes offer a more aggressive outsole tread for
better traction and some models also offer a solid-plate in the midsole |
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w****1
发帖数: 4931 | 45 not really. it mostly has to do with the position of the upper body and the use of hips. Now I land on my
forefoot regardless of whether I'm going at 5:00 or 12:00 per mile. I wear the same shoes I did heel strike
with just earlier this year. |
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w****1
发帖数: 4931 | 46 I do all of my runs on my forefoot and that includes the downhill as well.
So naturally the impact is absorbed
by the calfs. But you gotta work on your calf strength in order to handle
that. Throwing your arms forward a
little (as opposed to hammering down on the uphills) also helps with keeping
the balance on the downhill
(especially when you are going fast). |
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w****1
发帖数: 4931 | 47 It takes a while to adjust the form as well. How you can run also depends on
your relative muscle strength.
Generally you gotta slow down a little bit in five fingers/barefoot, and a
high cadence would help reduce the
stress on the foot. You want to land on your little toe and roll to the big
toe and the entire forefoot.
I
gait |
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b***i
发帖数: 10018 | 48 great experience on forefoot strike and barefoot running.
From my experience, although i thought i have been doing midfoot strikes,
but all my shoes had significantly worn at the outside of the heels. I guess
I am still a heel-striker. From what you said, I now realize that the
transition will be long and painful.:)
2009
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w****1
发帖数: 4931 | 49 Nope. I'm a forefoot striker and I don't have to worry about my knees at all. |
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w****1
发帖数: 4931 | 50 of course if you change to a completely new type of running shoes, you'd have to take it easy at the beginning
of the transition, run lower mileage and gradually increase, like everything else in running. the author of Born
to Run used to weigh 230 lb and injures himself from running just 3 miles a day, no matter what shoes he
wear. He later became an ultramarathoner running injury free by, as you know, barefoot training and wearing
five fingers. If you have always been wearing cushioned shoes a... 阅读全帖 |
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