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p****y
发帖数: 23737
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【 以下文字转载自 Vegetarianism 俱乐部 】
发信人: purity (purity), 信区: Vegetarianism
标 题: 《展望二十一世纪》对生命的选择
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Nov 7 19:33:39 2010, 美东)
《展望21世纪--汤因比与池田大作对话录》(Choose Life: A Dialogue by
Daisaku Ikeda, Arnold Joseph Toynbee)是根据英国著名的历史学家阿诺尔德·汤因
比和日本宗教和文化界著名人士、社会活动家池田大作关于人类社会和当代世界问题的
谈话记录整理而成,先后出版过英文、日文、德文、法文、西班牙文等多种文本。
本书分为《人生与社会》、《政治与世界》、《哲学与宗教》,共三篇十二章,
论及的问题极为广泛。两位作者纵贯古今,横跨全球,追溯过去,着眼当代,展望未来
,从宇宙天体、生命起源、宗教哲学、道德伦理、科学技术、文化教育、医疗卫生、环
境保护、国民经济、社会福利、政治制度、领导选择、军备竞赛、和平战争,一直到未
来的世界大同,几乎探讨了人类社... 阅读全帖
w********h
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每个人都有自己的权威性。
你似乎认为中国的不负责任的系主任(更精确点是她作为包工头下面的民工学生),
以及多半为票友的mitbbs历史版版友,
似乎可以挑战真正的历史学家。
那看看这几篇文献再反驳吧。
Syed Ziaur Rahman, Were the “Dark Ages” Really Dark?, Grey Matter (The Co-
curricular Journal of Jawaharlal Nehru Medical College), Aligarh Muslim
University, Aligarh, 2003: 7-10
Snyder, Christopher A. (1998). An Age of Tyrants: Britain and the Britons A.
D. 400–600. University Park: Pennsylvania State University Press. pp. xiii
–xiv. ISBN 0-271-01780-5 , for example. This work contains over 100 ... 阅读全帖
e********3
发帖数: 18578
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Diodorus gives an account of Xanthippus' death. After the battle of Tunis,
Xanthippus stopped in the city of Lilybaeum which was besieged by the Romans
. He inspired courage and led an attack defeating the Romans. Jealous of
Xanthippus' success, the city betrayed him by giving him a leaky ship and he
supposedly sank in the Adriatic Sea on his voyage home.
Diodorus Siculus (Greek: Διόδωρος Σικελιώτη&#
962;), was a Greek historian who lived in the 1st century BC. According to
Diodor... 阅读全帖
S*******C
发帖数: 7325
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kejer (kejer) 于 (Tue Jul 13 16:11:14 2010, 美东) 提到:
当时曹操手上的步骑兵渡了江接下来就基本上没什么悬念了吧?当时曹操手上有渡口呀
,孙刘又不可能来个长江防线。
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DrLiYu (婆婆------蓝) 于 (Tue Jul 13 16:16:45 2010, 美东) 提到:
路不好走啊,别说那时,就是直到上世纪末,都不好走.火车要绕很多路.
另外湖北当时叫千湖之国,到处是水网沟岔.
太平天国的时候,也是顺江往下打,因为长江是非常好的后勤补给线

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powerrui (powerrui) 于 (Wed Jul 14 11:47:04 2010, 美东) 提到:
有一部确实渡过去了,不过被打回来了。
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c**i
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Cameron McWhirter, Civil War Historians Spark Numbers War Between States;
New Research Questions Who in the Confederacy Had the Most War Dead. Wall
Street Journal, Mar 26, 2011.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424
052748704662604576202823930087328.html
("The war generally doesn't evoke the same public interest in the North,
Midwest and the West as it does in the defeated South, where most of the
battles were fought and the land was devastated. For generations, whites in
the region also migr... 阅读全帖
c**i
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来自主题: History版 - American Civil War
(1) Harold Holzer, Civil War Diaries, Blue and Gray. Wall Street Journal,
Apr 16, 2011 (in the column Five Best).
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405274
8704529204576256913790298414.html?mod=rss_Books
Note:
(a) Mary Boykin Chesnut
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Boykin_Chesnut
(born Mary Boykin Miller; 1823-1886; father Stephen Decatur Miller; husband
James Chesnut, Jr)
(b) bewigged (adj): "wearing a wig"
All definitions are from www.m-w.com.
(c) Lost Cause
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... 阅读全帖
c**i
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(1) Dave DeForest, Historian Recounts Role of Chinese Americans Who Fought
in US Civil War. VOA, Apr 10, 2011.
http://www.voanews.com/english/news/asia/Surprise-
Asians-Fought-In-The-US-Civil-War-120282254.html?commentSubmitted=y&field=
("Even though there were only about 200 Chinese-Americans living in the
eastern United States at the time, 58 of them fought in the Civil War.
Because of their previous experiences at sea, many of them served in the U.S
. Navy. Only one Chinese-American soldier w... 阅读全帖
t**********t
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呵呵,我已经说了,您不懂英文就只看中文书好了,别闹“建设现代化日本”的笑话。
就免费教育你一下罢,虽然俺的英语很烂。MAKING可以翻作塑造,MODERN是指现代,书名可以翻译成仁裕天皇与现代
日本的塑造,不敢说信达雅,音美意美形美,但是大致是这么个意思。您翻译成仁裕天皇与建设现代化日本,基本可以和
常凯申比翼齐飞了---不过还好,起码翻出来是日本,不是德国,呵呵。
关于仁裕的罪行,这本书的简介里面已经说得很清楚了,仁裕天皇就是日本的军事领袖和国家首脑,根本不是你说的什么
仁裕没有权,而且是个反战主义者。
Since Hirohito's death in 1989, hundreds of documents, diaries, and scholarly studies have been published
(and subsequently ignored) in Japan. Historian Bix used these sources to develop this shocking and nuanced
portrait of a man far more shre... 阅读全帖
y****e
发帖数: 1785
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来自主题: History版 - 二里头的图片与器物
是想把“信史”往前推,也确实给三代考古争了不少的经费,也有了很多新发现,但是
严谨的学术不是这么搞的。非要把还有争论的问题硬凑出一个结论,过程中还存在技术
问题,最后官方又背书,这个做法太不聪明了。
还是把刘莉和许宏那篇文章的结论的第二段打上来吧。
When a Chinese official, Song Jian,was impressed by Egyptian royal
genealogy during a trip to Egypt and called for the Xia-Shang-Zhou
Chronology Project to reconstruct an accurate timeframe for early Chinese
history, this project was apparently a king of political propaganda. As a
politician, Song Jian may be excused for being unaware of the problems
behind the dynastic ch... 阅读全帖
s******8
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来自主题: History版 - 耶稣这个人到底存在不存在?

A Roman historian, Tacitus, who is respected by modern scholars for
historical accuracy, wrote about Christ and His church: "The author of the
denomination was Christ(us) who had been executed in Tiberius' time by the
Procurator Pontius Pilate. The pestilent superstition, checked for a while,
burst out again, not only throughout Judea...but throughout the city of Rome
also...[Tacitus, Annals XV 44]
Other secular witnesses to the historical Jesus include Suetonius in his
biography of Claudius, P... 阅读全帖
b****r
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stoppingtime (李将军又打鸡血了) 于 (Thu Sep 15 18:46:25 2011, 美东) 提到:
真是惊心动魄啊。
德国人几乎快被打得崩溃了,结果突然形势急转直下,苏联人被反合围了。包围圈里的
红军高呼着乌拉发起冲锋然后整片整片被打倒。。。
有空了写个连载,算是读书笔记罢。
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vespers (西瓜很好吃) 于 (Thu Sep 15 18:49:04 2011, 美东) 提到:
俄国人还是nb,从沙皇时期就开始屡屡发生这种集团冲锋整片整片被打倒的事情,好像
对军队士气都没什么影响。

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stoppingtime (李将军又打鸡血了) 于 (Thu Sep 15 20:06:11 2011, 美东) 提到:
德国人认为他们是喝了伏特加,就好像美军认为志愿军是磕了药一样。
不过估计在当时的包围圈里不太容... 阅读全帖
k****r
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来自主题: History版 - 在斯大林格勒的枪决行动
common myth or urban legend about "human wave attack"
首先, 必须要说掌握话语权有多么重要.
- 现在这个世界, 基本上如果不是English-Speaking, 如果不是来自"民主国家"
的言论, 你的声音在"民主国家"是基本上不可能被听到的, 或者有人说也没人信.
看看9/11后美国的反穆斯林, 看看"人海战术"的传说就是明例. 证明了民主国家
对民众的洗脑和控制的手段, 比共产党的真是高明得不知道多少.
其次, 大众对共产党的印象, 基本上就决定了民主国家能够想卖什么反共的concept
就一卖一个准. 比如从二战苏联到解放战争及抗美援朝中国的"人海战术"
再次, 因为大家明显相信英语的宣传, 那么下面是wiki关于志愿军"人海战术"的描述:
从1952年开始美国的军事专家就已经指出了"人海战术"传说的无聊. 不过这丝毫不妨碍
宣传机构继续给蠢人们灌输这个, 也不妨碍继续有蠢人们相信这个.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_wave_attack
People's Liberat... 阅读全帖
k****r
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来自主题: History版 - 在斯大林格勒的枪决行动
"The attacks by the successive Chinese fireteams were also carefully timed
to minimize casualties"
"US Army historian Roy Edgar Appleman observed that the term "human wave"
was later used by journalists and military officials to convey the image
that the American soldiers were assaulted by overwhelming numbers of Chinese
on a broad front, which is inaccurate when compared with the normal Chinese
practice of sending successive series of five men teams against a single
narrow portion of the line"
... 阅读全帖
g******t
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来自主题: History版 - 在斯大林格勒的枪决行动
这个是Glantz在邮件里推荐的他写的一本书,800多页,amazon上三十多块钱可以搞一
本。
"A superb historian and a brilliant detective."-New York Review of Books
"Indisputably the West's foremost expert on the subject."-The Atlantic
"Glantz's unrivalled command of Soviet sources has produced a body of work
that has fundamentally revised our knowledge of the Eastern Front in World
War II." -Slavic Review
"The world's top scholar of the Soviet-German War."-Journal of Military
History
Customer Reviews 到目前为止全是五颗星,没有例外的,值得买一本了
Exhaustively... 阅读全帖
g******t
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来自主题: History版 - 苏军惩戒营
Glantz是搞战争史的历史学家,大学里历史系科班出身,有军队(美军)服役经历,接
触俄罗斯原始解密文件,这是相关机构给他拍的马:
http://www.amazon.com/Colossus-Reborn-1941-1943-Modern-Studies/
"A superb historian and a brilliant detective."-New York Review of Books
"Indisputably the West's foremost expert on the subject."-The Atlantic
"Glantz's unrivalled command of Soviet sources has produced a body of work
that has fundamentally revised our knowledge of the Eastern Front in World
War II." -Slavic Review
"The world's top scholar of the Soviet-German War."-... 阅读全帖
H****g
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英文是Cormac ó Gráda的原文啊,中文是我的翻译。你把英文当成中文翻译了?哈哈。
Cormac ó Gráda is an Irish economist, a professor of economics at
University College Dublin, and a prolific author of books and academic
papers.[1]
As a historian of economics his most quoted works are on the Irish famine of
the late 1840s, and studies of fluctuations in the Irish population. Over
100 of his academic papers are available online.[2][3][4] He is a member of
the Cliometric Society, the Economic History Society, the European
Historical E... 阅读全帖
l**********r
发帖数: 4612
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来自主题: History版 - 天朝发现带毛霸王龙。 (转载)
【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: fibril (游来荡去), 信区: Military
标 题: 天朝发现带毛霸王龙。
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Apr 5 10:29:21 2012, 美东)
世界首次发现带毛大型恐龙,特别是恐龙之王,霸王龙。
比较cute的是,这个带毛霸王龙貌似头部还有冠。
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46954385/ns/technology_and_science-
Scientists find the king of the feathered dinosaurs
The discovery of a giant meat-eating dinosaur sporting a downy coat has some
scientists reimagining the look of Tyrannosaurus rex.
With a killer jaw and sharp claws, T. rex has long been depicted in movies
and po... 阅读全帖
h*****5
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注释:
本卷所发表的“爱尔兰史”的一些章节是恩格斯准备就这个题目写作的长篇历史著作的
一部分,1869年的后几个月和1870年上半年他曾从事这一著作的写作。恩格斯写作的意
图,是以爱尔兰历史为例,揭露英国殖民统治的制度和方法,指出它不仅对被压迫民族
而且对压迫民族的历史命运造成恶果,批判英国资产阶级史学家、经济学家、地理学家
著作中以种族主义沙文主义态度对爱尔兰的历史和现实所作的歪曲。
1869年夏天,恩格斯就想写一部爱尔兰的历史。他于这一年的9月在爱尔兰作了一次旅
行,以便进一步熟悉这个国家。为了从事这一著作,恩格斯研究了大量的文献和各种历
史资料,其中有古代和中世纪著作家的著作,年表,古代法律汇编,各种法令,民间传
说,古代文学作品,游记以及许多历史、考古、经济、地理和地质方面的著作。现在保
存下来的、恩格斯所开列的关于爱尔兰历史的书目计达150种以上。在他这时期所做的
15本笔记中,大部分是为本书准备的材料,此外还有札记、单页片断、剪报等。为了研
究爱尔兰的史料,恩格斯还不得不学习古爱尔兰语。爱尔兰年表和古斯堪的那维亚史诗
的某些片断就是由恩格斯自己译成德文的。在研究爱尔兰历史时... 阅读全帖
D*****i
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你找的这个就是那个罗马十二帝王传吧。这本书世间评价不高啊,比如wiki上说:“
Suetonius used the imperial archives to research eyewitness accounts,
information, and other evidence to produce the book; however, critics say
the book is founded on gossip and citations of historians who had lived in
the time of the early emperors, rather than on primary sources of that time.
The book can be described as racy, packed with gossip, dramatic and
sometimes amusing. ”
我还有这本书的中文版,里面的译者评论给你摘一段,不要钱:
“罗尔夫说它既不是历史又不是传记,莱奥等说它只是文法的范例。至于内容,有人说
作者是丑闻的贩... 阅读全帖
s******8
发帖数: 7105
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来自主题: History版 - 理查三世篡位

不是驼背是脊柱侧凸。
Blame William Shakespeare. His famous play about Richard III’s brief but
bloody tenure, portrayed the king as a hunchback, probably as a dramatic
device to emphasize his physical deformities as a reflection of his inner
crookedness, a common literary device of the era. Before Shakespeare,
contemporary historians had described – accurately, it now seems – Richard
’s appearance as consistent with severe scoliosis. Vergil said he had “one
shoulder higher than the right”; Thomas More de... 阅读全帖
c*****1
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oxthigh (老是肚饿) 于 (Thu Jul 19 12:20:36 2012, 美东) 提到:
欧洲的原始史料可比咱中国的丰富多了,只要你愿意去找
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romo (romo) 于 (Fri Jul 20 00:00:15 2012, 美东) 提到:
行为艺术? 欧洲没有老中那样的典藏制度, 古代历史基本靠编。
一个类似的例子是阿三, 阿三的文明程度科比欧洲高多了, 丫的历史还要靠大唐西域
记来还原。 像欧洲那样突然发现柏拉图的理想国几百万字巨著的厚脸皮程度, 棒子是
差太远了。

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Diaowai (Waiting for suckers rally) 于 (Fri Jul 20 00:17:59 2012, 美东) 提到:
这个算是闭着眼睛给母猪打口红的例子了。
你读过几部欧洲的“原始资料”?
我是看过几本欧洲古典历... 阅读全帖
D***r
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【 以下文字转载自 USANews 讨论区 】
发信人: Dower (Historian), 信区: USANews
标 题: 历史惊人相似啊 复习一下JF kennedy的演说
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Apr 2 03:43:50 2013, 美东)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xWW4WmBtk8
好多问题跟现在一样
P*****T
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原文参见http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_4a04113d0101oxp3.html

清华简《耆夜》为伪作考 姜广辉 付赞 邱梦

本文考证清华简《耆夜》为伪作,理由是:一、简文载周公致毕公诗,开头一句是“戎
服”,考“戎服”概念晚出,大约在公元前800年左右军旅之衣称为“韎韐”,公元前
650年左右称为“均服”,公元前550年左右称为“戎服”、以“赑赑”叠字作为修饰语
直到唐代才有。二、简文两次见“祝诵”词汇,考先秦古籍只单言“祝”或“颂”,不
言“祝诵”或“祝颂”。宋代学者作文献研究,分析文辞、文意,始立“祝颂”之目。
三、简文载周公酬武王祝诵诗,开头一句是:“明明上帝,临下之光。”前一句首见于
晋人诗句,是歌颂上帝的;后一句首见于宋人诗句,是歌颂宋帝的,这两句诗乃是现代
人集句,非周公原创。四、《蟋蟀》一诗原载《诗经·国风·唐风》,先秦季札和孔子
都认为此诗反映唐尧节俭遗风。简文则说《蟋蟀》一诗为周公所作。考《诗经》三百零
五篇皆曾被谱曲,十五国风属于民谣,地域不同,音亦各异,豳有豳音,唐有唐音。假
如是周公所作之诗,必定会被乐师谱... 阅读全帖
s***i
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来自主题: History版 - 中国各个朝代的人均GDP estimates
Qin Dynasty 秦朝 221–206 BC
GDP per capita: Unknow
The share of Qing and the dynasties before are too aged to calculate, no
relevant data is available, so we only start from the Han dynasty.
Han dynasty 汉朝 (206 BC–220 AD)
GDP per capita: $450
Han Dynasty accounted for 26% of the global wealth, at that time the Roman
Empire dominated western world. Han Dynasty is the economic center of the
eastern world.
Tang Dynasty 唐朝 618 – 907 AD
GDP per capita:$480
China’s feudal society gets to its peak in T... 阅读全帖
s***i
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来自主题: History版 - 中国各个朝代的人均GDP estimates
Qin Dynasty 秦朝 221–206 BC
GDP per capita: Unknow
The share of Qing and the dynasties before are too aged to calculate, no
relevant data is available, so we only start from the Han dynasty.
Han dynasty 汉朝 (206 BC–220 AD)
GDP per capita: $450
Han Dynasty accounted for 26% of the global wealth, at that time the Roman
Empire dominated western world. Han Dynasty is the economic center of the
eastern world.
Tang Dynasty 唐朝 618 – 907 AD
GDP per capita:$480
China’s feudal society gets to its peak in T... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: History版 - Los Angeles Chinese Massacre1871
网上看到这张图片极其文字,开始不知道lynch是什么意思,猜测是凌迟的音译,后来
查了是"私刑"。
白人黑帮杀了17个中国人,从此不了了之。
http://www.laweekly.com/2011-03-10/news/how-los-angeles-covered
142 years ago today, 17 Chinese immigrants were lynched in the Los Angeles
Chinese Massacre, the largest mass lynching in U.S. history. None of the
white settlers involved in the violence were brought to justice, and those
tried had their convictions overturned due to a legal technicality.
Though the powerful and wealthy in frontier L.A. wanted the story covered ... 阅读全帖
r****p
发帖数: 1854
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来自主题: History版 - 年底包子
这次包子的一个总体原则是,鼓励大家潜心读史,多贡献高质量的原创,尽量少关些无
太多意义的水。
本人见识, 时间和精力都有限,难免有所疏漏,还望大家见谅,有意见和想法也欢迎
告诉我。
Molen 500伪币
多篇高质量的原创, 而且能超出帝王将相的读史层次,对古代经技术,政治制度做出
很有意义的见解。除此之外还多次参与讨论,为网友答疑解惑。
波斯历史漫谈
http://www.mitbbs.com/article/History/31989973_4.html
北美的第一个游牧民族 (也是最后一个)
http://www.mitbbs.com/article/History/31980787_4.html
为科举辩护,兼谈李约瑟问题
http://www.mitbbs.com/article/History/31980307_4.html
王安石变法与中华历史周期律
http://www.mitbbs.com/article/History/31980589_4.html
fingerling54 (黑暗虎鲸) 400伪币
继续其欧洲历史的原创,并且以“比较历史学”的笔法,有大家比较... 阅读全帖
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许宏是谁,大家知道吧。
http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_5729cae10102foka.html
——苏三著《新文明简史》序
要先说说这序的由来。
三年前的2010年,我发过一篇博文《接受苏三:一个“体制内”学者的认识论》。由于
对苏三女士的评价一以贯之,这篇短文仍代表我的想法,所以我想还是先原文照录:
苏三,北京文化学者,以非史学专业出身而研究中国文明起源,主张“全球文明同源”
论著称,因奇思与新论迭出而饱受争议。其人其书,已被坊间誉为奇人奇书。
知道苏三的《汉字起源新解》(东方出版社,2010年)已有一段时间了,买到书又有一
段时间了。总想着应当有暇时细品,一来分享她自由不羁的学思,二来也肯定要以考古
人苛刻的视角挑挑毛病。
……
昨夜今晨忙里偷闲,带着“批判”的眼光耐着性子捧读,不想一气儿看了几十页,到该
上班时脑海里已有了读书心得的题目:接受苏三!
我应当属于作者说的那种在“‘中国文明独立起源’的固定模式”下成长起来的“体制
内”学者,可以肯定地说无法完全接受她的研究结论甚至某些推论方法。但我首先接受
的是她的认识论。
苏三坦率地承认自己的论断是... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: History版 - 蒙元对理科的东西摧毁多吗
为何老庄那套就不是形而上体系?
我最近在读墨子
发现里面有许多古代人对数学上的认识,对于一些概念已经给出了明确的定义。
因为地理的原因,中国是个农耕社会
在农地里过活的人对于世界和宇宙的观察
跟海洋里渡海的人一定会不同
为何中国那些那些东西就不是科学?
Hellenistic 时代的Euclid 的 the elements
现在许多人看来并非是一人所做,
即使Euclid 都无法确定是真正的一个个人
The Elements 非常可能是将前人的知识的一个大汇编。
再问,即使是现代historians of science 也认为
欧洲中世纪是黑暗年代,即使古罗马时代也是科学上的黑暗时代
科学的发展是是启蒙时代重拾起Hellenistic Science
抛弃中世纪的无知才兴起
为何你们不停的声称欧洲中世纪是现代科学的开始?
s***i
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Song Dynasty 宋朝 960-1279 AD
GDP per capita:US$2,280
The entire Song Dynasty accounted for 80% of the world’s GDP, The share
should be the highest among Chinese history due mainly to a booming commerce
, foreign trade and technological advancement, making Song the richest
dynasty in Chinese history. After a thousand years, Westerners said: “a
thousand years ago, China’s economic aggregate accounted for 80% of the
world at that time.” After a thousand years Chinese people said in shock:
“how is ... 阅读全帖
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发帖数: 1854
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digitalpiano (piano) 于 (Wed Dec 11 10:47:35 2013, 美东) 提到:
古代突厥人败亡西迁之后,起码现在在中亚、欧洲都有立足之地,全球约有1.3亿操突
厥语族语言的人,他们大多自称是突厥人或者突厥人的后裔。
再看看满、蒙,蹦跶了一阵之后,蒙古就剩下如今塞北苦寒之地,满州国也就在二战时
期日本人裤裆下当了几年傀儡。
满、蒙的下场不及当年败亡的突厥的百分之一。
放眼东亚之天府之地,尽为我大汉十几亿子民所占。 向北大冷,向南太热,向西干旱
,向东大海。。。
看看人家突厥,至少国土辽阔,人口过亿。
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digitalpiano (piano) 于 (Wed Dec 11 10:47:44 2013, 美东) 提到:
又在意淫。蒙古人种、mandarin什么的不过是西方起的名字,你这个满夷就跪舔了?
北京话自明代已有,满夷连自己的语言、文字、口语都消亡了,居然来意淫北方口语是
自... 阅读全帖
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【 以下文字转载自 Joke 讨论区 】
发信人: Dower (Historian), 信区: Joke
标 题: 古代鲜卑人头骨复原了,看着很眼熟
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Mar 16 16:36:40 2014, 美东)
真相大白
K**********i
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【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: Dower (Historian), 信区: Military
标 题: 山东曹县曾调查在京乞丐 几乎全部是河南人冒充
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Mar 17 00:44:20 2014, 美东)
大学生选取北京城内19个有代表性的繁华地段,共访问了48名街头乞丐。在被访问者中
,来自山东省的占43.2%,其中菏泽市曹县一地的占到被访问者总人数的27%。
此信息被山东省有关部门摘送呈山东省常务副省长林廷生同志,林廷生副省长要求省民
政部门认真了解情况。经研究,确定由曹县组织工作组,一名副县长带队,由公安、民
政等有关部门参加,连夜赶赴北京,进行专门调查。工作组走访查询了汽车站、火车站
、商场、地铁出入口等公共场所繁华地段80多处,调查乞讨人员122人,仅有1人是曹县
人,另有1 人自称是曹县的,叫单世德,但查无此人,其他都是河南省民权县人冒充曹
县人。
由于媒体没有弄清楚乞讨者的真实情况,给我们山东的形象带来了一定的损害,为消除
影响,我们将曹县的调查报告通过新闻媒体向社会公布,以视正听。
d**********0
发帖数: 13081
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来自主题: History版 - 聊聊二战苏军的成长
英国援助对Moscow 会战的影响。
http://www.historynet.com/did-russia-really-go-it-alone-how-len
this newly available evidence paints a very different picture from the
received wisdom. In particular, it shows that British Lend-Lease assistance
to the Soviet Union in late 1941 and early 1942 played a far more
significant part in the defense of Moscow and the revival of Soviet fortunes
in late 1941 than has been acknowledged. -
Even aid that might seem like a drop in the bucket in the larger context of
Soviet p... 阅读全帖
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发帖数: 9770
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来自主题: History版 - -Where the East and the West meet
By Ishaan Tharoor April 28, 2015
There's no place on Earth where East and West, cardinal directions, don't
meet.
But, over the centuries, East and West — particularly the East in the minds
of people in the West — have become terms loaded with cultural freight.
For a long time in the European imagination, the divide between these
spheres centered on where Christendom ended and the lands of Islam began.
The history of colonialism both reinforced and reconfigured these divides.
The map below is Wor... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: History版 - 回答道教和佛教的差别 (转载)
【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: onetiemyshoe (onetiemyshoe), 信区: Military
标 题: 回答道教和佛教的差别
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Mar 14 21:47:14 2016, 美东)
我来说说。
1. 首先,我对佛教没了解。
因为佛祖没有留下书面文字,
不光如此,连同年代的烙印弟子
敌人学者都没有留下书面文字, 没有
任何佐证,peer review。 所以
佛教所有的早期经典都是口述。 口传最大
的问题就是死无对证,夸大,遗漏,故意
非故意误传谬传。 有1/10是真的,已经很了不起了。
道家道教都是源于道德经。 而道德经
也是老子(本身是史学大牛),根据周朝几百年
积累的皇家传书,甚至集商朝几百年的
历史经验之大成。当时还有很多同时代
的学者分布着周朝首都和各个诸侯国,
所以道德经是经过Peer review的。
2. 道家书传早于佛教书传。
3. Taoism is very individualistic and cares
deeply about liberty and indep... 阅读全帖
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【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: yesok (ok博士), 信区: Military
标 题: 上一代人类已经掌握了反重力和星际航行的能力
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Mar 30 23:44:53 2016, 美东)
反引力手册摘录
By D. Hatcher Childress
Many researchers into the UFO enigma tend to overlook a very important fact.
While it assumed that most
flying saucers are of alien, or perhaps Governmental Military origin,
another possible origin of UFOs is ancient
India and Atlantis.
许多研究员进入不明飞行物谜之内容易看出一个很重要的事实。虽然多数被假定是外星
人的飞碟,或也许
是政府的军事来源,不明飞行物的另外一个可能的来源是古印度和亚特兰提斯岛。
What we know ab... 阅读全帖
W*****B
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【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: WCNMLGB (CCC), 信区: Military
标 题: 今天是俄国末代沙皇宠臣拉斯普廷遇害100周年
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Dec 30 23:00:42 2016, 美东)
One hundred years since Russia’s controversial mystic Grigory Rasputin was
poisoned, shot, beaten, and thrown into freezing waters by a group of
aristocrats, historians are still divided over his murder and influence on
the Tsar’s family.
The Siberian faith healer’s close relationship with the Romanov royal
family caused ruptures among Russian aristocrats fearful o... 阅读全帖
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搜了一下,杨继绳还活着, 而且刚出版一本黑文革的新书《天地翻覆》
http://cn.nytimes.com/china/20170123/china-historian-yang-jisheng-book-mao/
《天翻地覆》目前已经上架,下一场战斗将围绕中国读者能否读到它而展开。在中国,
这类书籍都被归为禁书。
该书是于去年12月末在香港上市的。香港有着自己的法律制度,以及比中国大陆更大的
自由度。这种自由近年来已经有所缩减。当地的五名书商于2015年被绑架到中国之事令
香港出版人大为震惊,那些书商曾出售关于中国领导人的一些骇人听闻而又缺乏根据的
粗劣作品。
不过,对于在中国大陆被禁的书籍来说,香港仍然是一块飞地。杨继绳的书在书店里成
摞摆放着,表明大陆读者已经在购买此书并偷偷带过边境,尽管海关会加以盘查。
c******e
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一、George Washington 乔治·华盛顿:用印第安人的人皮可以制作出优质长统靴
1779年,乔治华盛顿指示JohnSullivan少将攻打Iroquois人民时说:假如将“垃圾”(
指印第安人)放到所有定居点附近,….. 那么整个国家将不仅仅是泛滥成灾,而是被
摧毁了。在屠杀灭绝印第安人过程中,华盛顿还指示他的将军说:在所有印第安人居留
地被有效摧毁前不要听取任何和平 的建议”。
在1783年,华盛顿在把印第安人和狼的相互比较中,他这种反印第安人情绪遗漏无疑:
“两者都是掠食的野兽, 仅仅在形状上不同”,他说。华盛顿的灭绝政策在他的部队
又一次击败了印第安人以后得以实施。军士们从Iroquois人的死尸上剥皮,“从臀部往
下剥皮, 这样可以制作出高的或可以并腿而长的长统靴来。”在那场袭击后辛存的印
第安人将美国第一总统改名为“小城摧毁者”。大概30个Senca人的城镇中有28 个在一
个5年时间内被摧毁。
二、Thomas Jefferson托马斯·杰弗逊(就是那位声称“天赋人权”——人人生而平等
的民主领袖):美国必须灭绝印第安人
1807年,托马斯杰弗逊指示他的战争部门... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: History版 - 莫斯科战役苏联靠的是英援
According to research by a team of Soviet historians, the Soviet Union lost
a staggering 20,500 tanks from June 22 to December 31, 1941. At the end of
November 1941, only 670 Soviet tanks were available to defend Moscow—that
is, in the recently formed Kalinin, Western, and Southwestern Fronts. Only
205 of these tanks were heavy or medium types, and most of their strength
was concentrated in the Western Front, with the Kalinin Front having only
two tank battalions (67 tanks) and the Southwestern ... 阅读全帖

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来自主题: History版 - 汉传佛教是个阴谋
From such statements, it is evident that Adams, Madison, Hamilton and other
Founders understood that, throughout the history of the Greek and Roman
republics, tyrants were more likely than not to begin their political
careers as populists and democrats and to end them as despots. Such
demagogues were men of prominence who used their popular support to force
their will upon an unsuspecting and trusting populace. As Greek historian
Thucydides remarked, “You may rule over anyone whom you can domina... 阅读全帖

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From such statements, it is evident that Adams, Madison, Hamilton and other
Founders understood that, throughout the history of the Greek and Roman
republics, tyrants were more likely than not to begin their political
careers as populists and democrats and to end them as despots. Such
demagogues were men of prominence who used their popular support to force
their will upon an unsuspecting and trusting populace. As Greek historian
Thucydides remarked, “You may rule over anyone whom you can domina... 阅读全帖

发帖数: 1
44
From such statements, it is evident that Adams, Madison, Hamilton and other
Founders understood that, throughout the history of the Greek and Roman
republics, tyrants were more likely than not to begin their political
careers as populists and democrats and to end them as despots. Such
demagogues were men of prominence who used their popular support to force
their will upon an unsuspecting and trusting populace. As Greek historian
Thucydides remarked, “You may rule over anyone whom you can domina... 阅读全帖
i***a
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来自主题: Military版 - 没人关心吉尔吉斯的暴乱?
Kyrgyz
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyrgyz
Kyrgyz and Uyghur are rivals.
The early Kyrgyz people, known as Yenisei Kyrgyz or Xiajiasi (黠戛斯), first
appear in written records in the Chinese annals of the Sima Qian's Records
of the Grand Historian (compiled 109 BC to 91 BC), as Gekun or Jiankun (鬲
昆 or 隔昆). The Middle Age Chinese composition "Tanghuiyao" of the 8-10th
century transcribed the name "Kyrgyz" Tsze-gu (Kirgut), and their tamga was
depicted as identical to the tamga of present day Kyrgy
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The United States was the main supplier of oil to Japan in the 1930s, and
the imposition of an American oil embargo on Japan in 1941, in an effort to
curb Japanese military expansionism, has been cited by some historians as
one of the reasons for Japan’s attack on Pearl Harbor.
d******a
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来自主题: Military版 - 刚看了电影 卡廷惨案
he issue was finally settled in 2004, where a joint team of Polish and
Russian historians (prof. Waldemar Rezmer and prof. Zbigniew Karpus from
Nicolaus Copernicus University in Toruń and prof. Gennady Matveyev from
Moscow State University), after reexamining documents from Polish and
Russian archives published their results (printed in Russia by Federal
Agency for Russian Archives). Their findings show that the number of Russian
POWs can be estimated at between 80,000 and 85,000, and that the n
w****2
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来自主题: Military版 - 1932-33美国人口统计资料丢失?(ZT)
各位看一下真假。
Interview with Boris Borisov
23 October, 2008, 02:29
While America lectures Russia on the 1932-33 famine in Ukraine, Russian
historian Boris Borisov asks what became of over seven million American
citizens who disappeared from US population records in the 1930s.
RT: What made you research the history of what you call ‘American
Holodomor’?
B.B: It was very simple. As I was doing comparative research of the
American Great Depression in the 1930s, and the Great Depression of the
1990s in R
b*******s
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我看了上面的发言,感觉(只是感觉)好像发言的都不是专业人士。如果这个假设成立
,那么正、反双方都有问题:
1. 楼主的问题:
如果不是相关专业的内行,哪怕引用的是权威研究成果,但是只是半途拦截去解读别人
中间研究数据,出错的可能性就比较大。我看Science/Nature或者别的专业期刊,不是
自己专业的,中间研究过程从来不会去质疑,只看结论——然后相信个90%,因为
Science/Nature也有可能会出错,但是出非专业人士也能挑出毛病的低级错误的概率比
较低——所以不是本专业的,不质疑,因为没有那个训练。
楼主用专业研究人员的人均GDP的历年数据,我觉得很好,但是自己解读为“中国从未
强大过”,就有问题了——从数据能推出什么结论,也需要专业训练的。看看作者研究
的实际结果吧:
“In another influential book, “Chinese Economic Performance in the Long
Run,” in 1998, he tracked the history of Chinese growth since 960. The book
demons... 阅读全帖
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too simple . it merely depends on which side future historians will take
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