n***w 发帖数: 2405 | 1 有一些tissue的confocal images, 每张是3个channel,
想知道如何quantify intensity.
试了一下imageJ里set measurements,用mean gray scale,但是不对。
求指点。
非常感谢! |
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f*c 发帖数: 2726 | 2 那是不是要一个一个地选择并measure? 有没有快速的方法,可以一下子得出一个field
里面的平均intensity? |
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a*****i 发帖数: 1045 | 3 用的是human monocytes细胞,同量的蛋白,但是结果发现loading control,还有其
他一些unspecific band的intensity完全不一样,感觉蛋白质不等量。
用的是BCA 测量蛋白的浓度。
同实验室其他的人说是因为本身的细胞有很多死掉的,所以导致即使放入同量的蛋
白,最后WB之后还是发现蛋白量不一样。 |
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b*******0 发帖数: 48 | 4 用image J 软件measure fluorescience intensity 的时候应该是用灰白的照片,还是
彩色的照片tiff?.
原始的照片是zvi格式的。 |
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s**********a 发帖数: 92 | 5 在数据库中查到的某个基因在多个sample中的表达,该用哪个数值呢, log(ratio) 还
是 log(intensity), 区别是什么, 谢谢大家! |
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y***n 发帖数: 109 | 6 You can draw a line ROI across the cell.
Compare the intensity of the two side peaks (plasma membrane) and of the
center (cytosol). |
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c********l 发帖数: 77 | 7 作large-scale parallel computing的研究,目前重点在于提高通信效率上。请问有没
有什么application在作并行计算的时候是communication-intensive的,也就是说,
MPI各节点间的通信频繁,占用总运行时间按比较多;而节点内的计算相对简单,占用
总运行时间比较少的(这种属性不随问题规模变化而变化)。2D/3D都可以。最好是比
较容易编程实现的应用。
往不吝赐教,包子酬谢! |
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D**1 发帖数: 23 | 8 plan to take test in 2 weeks.
need either Skype or live partner for final intensive study.I am in
pittsburgh.
Please email me if you are interested.
R*******[email protected]
good luck! |
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s*****9 发帖数: 75 | 9 I am looking for study partners to go over MTB 3 in the mornings 7:30-9:30
EST. It is better if you have read MTB 3 at least once before. It is for
intensive study, not for the beginners. Thanks |
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c********l 发帖数: 77 | 10 作large-scale parallel computing的研究,目前重点在于提高通信效率上。请问有没
有什么application在作并行计算的时候是communication-intensive的,也就是说,
MPI各节点间的通信频繁,占用总运行时间按比较多;而节点内的计算相对简单,占用
总运行时间比较少的(这种属性不随问题规模变化而变化)。2D/3D都可以。最好是比
较容易编程实现的应用。
往不吝赐教,包子酬谢! |
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c********l 发帖数: 77 | 11 作large-scale parallel computing的研究,目前重点在于提高通信效率上。请问有没
有什么application在作并行计算的时候是communication-intensive的,也就是说,
MPI各节点间的通信频繁,占用总运行时间按比较多;而节点内的计算相对简单,占用
总运行时间比较少的(这种属性不随问题规模变化而变化)。2D/3D都可以。最好是比
较容易编程实现的应用。
往不吝赐教,包子酬谢! |
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e**l 发帖数: 62 | 12 “ST4231 Computer Intensive Statistical Methods
Module description: Empirical distribution and plug-in principle, general
algorithm of bootstrap
method, bootstrap estimates of standard deviation and bias, jackknife
method, bootstrap confidence intervals, the empirical likelihood for the
mean and parameters defined by simple estimating function, Wilks theorem,
and EL confidence intervals, missing data, EM algorithm, Markov Chain Monte
Carlo methods.”
想请了解st的人说一下这门课程对于fiancial engineering的学生有学的必要么 |
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e**l 发帖数: 62 | 13 “ST4231 Computer Intensive Statistical Methods
Module description: Empirical distribution and plug-in principle, general
algorithm of bootstrap
method, bootstrap estimates of standard deviation and bias, jackknife
method, bootstrap confidence intervals, the empirical likelihood for the
mean and parameters defined by simple estimating function, Wilks theorem,
and EL confidence intervals, missing data, EM algorithm, Markov Chain Monte
Carlo methods.”
想请了解st的人说一下这门课程对于fiancial engineering的学生有学的必要么 |
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P****D 发帖数: 11146 | 14 你确定不是calculation-intensive? |
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b***i 发帖数: 10018 | 18 http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=4519027&page=
Looking the posts from jaguar1:
I did my Master's thesis on enhancing bone recovery with whole body
vibration training-- basically a low-magnitude, high frequency stimulus. You
could equate this to ~walking, standing, low-intensity running. Low
intensity activity is both safer and more anabolic to both soft and hard
tissue. It's also more likely to be sustained long term and consistently--
it's what maintains bone/muscle mass. When ... 阅读全帖 |
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K**********n 发帖数: 1197 | 19
跟这帮自称理科的文科生物wsn实在纠缠不清楚。给丫们上点洋大人自己的说法吧,而
且都是学术圈的,已有reference一堆,其中一份是著名的兰德公司的报告。
另外,美国和澳洲已立法限制使用脑波扫描仪,拿脑波扫描仪扫本国公民已是联邦法的
重罪。不过这个比较难的是你无法证实谁接收了你的脑信号。所以立了法跟没立一个样。
Remote Mind Control Technology
Reprinted from SECRET AND SUPPRESSED: BANNED IDEAS AND HIDDEN
HISTORY, edited by Jim Keith, $12.95, available from
1-800-680-INET.
There had been an ongoing controversy over health effects of electromagnetic
fields (EMF) for years (e.g., extremely low frequency radiation and the
Navy's Project Sea... 阅读全帖 |
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R*****s 发帖数: 41236 | 21 【 以下文字转载自 Tri 讨论区 】
发信人: Rodimus (变叔- 踏雪无痕), 信区: Tri
标 题: Low Carbo Training (zz)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Jan 4 15:20:23 2012, 美东)
排版有点乱,最好点进link看:
http://team.firstendurance.com/page/low-carbo-training-1
For years, well intentioned coaches and exercise physiologists have given
endurance athletes very strong recommendations to ensure high carbohydrate
intake during training and racing to optimize performance. Some recent
experimental evidence and the actual practice of some very successful
athlet... 阅读全帖 |
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K**********n 发帖数: 1197 | 22 学术界珍稀有限的原版外文资料,
Remote Mind Control Technology
Reprinted from SECRET AND SUPPRESSED: BANNED IDEAS AND HIDDEN
HISTORY, edited by Jim Keith, $12.95, available from
1-800-680-INET.
There had been an ongoing controversy over health effects of electromagnetic
fields (EMF) for years (e.g., extremely low frequency radiation and the
Navy's Project Seafarer; emissions of high power lines and video display
terminals; radar and other military and industrial sources of radio
frequencies and micr... 阅读全帖 |
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f**d 发帖数: 768 | 23 这是一本计算神经科学的优秀著作,全文拷贝这里(图和公式缺),有兴趣的同学可以
阅读
如需要,我可以分享PDF文件(--仅供个人学习,无商业用途)
From Computer to Brain
William W. Lytton
From Computer to Brain
Foundations of Computational Neuroscience
Springer
William W. Lytton, M.D.
Associate Professor, State University of New York, Downstato, Brooklyn, NY
Visiting Associate Professor, University of Wisconsin, Madison
Visiting Associate Professor, Polytechnic University, Brooklyn, NY
Staff Neurologist., Kings County Hospital, Brooklyn, NY
In From Computer to Brain: ... 阅读全帖 |
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R*****s 发帖数: 41236 | 24 排版有点乱,最好点进link看:
http://team.firstendurance.com/page/low-carbo-training-1
For years, well intentioned coaches and exercise physiologists have given
endurance athletes very strong recommendations to ensure high carbohydrate
intake during training and racing to optimize performance. Some recent
experimental evidence and the actual practice of some very successful
athletes has many of us rethinking our previous advice especially in regard
to training. As a coach, I sometimes encourage my athletes... 阅读全帖 |
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v****o 发帖数: 978 | 25 Chinese economic reform and development: achievements, emerging challenges
and unfinished tasks
Jane Golley and Ligang Song
The economic transformation that has taken place in China since the late
1970s is now regarded as one of the most significant social changes in human
history. Within just three decades, China has succeeded in transforming
itself from a centrally-planned closed economy into one of the world’s most
dynamic and globally-integrated market economies. The dynamics unleashed by
De... 阅读全帖 |
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r********m 发帖数: 593 | 26 这楼包括Sisley, Strivectin, Sunday Riley and YSL
===Sisley===
除非特别注明, 小样均为袋装
袋装小样用针扎个孔来用, 可尽量避免氧化和污染.
Sisleya 系列
Sisleya Supremya Night (tube) 全功能晚霜, 用这个不用用其他任何东西
155240
Size 2mL
Qty 3
Value 31.00
Price 6.00 each
Global firming serum
154190
Size 3mL
Value 51.00
Qty 2
Price 8.00 each or 2 for 15.00
Sisleya Radiance Anti-Aging Concentrate 夜用精华 tube
155800, 155300
Size 3mL
Value 51.00
Qty 6
Price 8.00 ea... 阅读全帖 |
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f****r 发帖数: 5118 | 27 懂信号处理的帮忙分析一下 Wow Signal,俺以前懂,现在虾米了
这个东西说不定正往地球飞过来呢
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wow!_signal
The Wow! signal was a strong narrowband radio signal detected by Dr. Jerry R
. Ehman on August 15, 1977, while working on a SETI project at The Big Ear
radio telescope of The Ohio State University.[1] The signal bore expected
hallmarks of potential non-terrestrial and non-solar system origin. It
lasted for the full 72 second duration that Big Ear observed it, but has
not been detected again. Much attenti... 阅读全帖 |
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g*********n 发帖数: 1055 | 28 好吧俺也来借花献佛一下,satas提到的HIIT
High-intensity interval training (HIIT) or sprint interval training is an
exercise strategy that is intended to improve performance with short
training sessions. HIIT is a form of cardiovascular exercise which is
beneficial to burning fat in a short and intense workout. Usual HIIT
sessions may vary from 9–20 minutes. The original protocol set a 2:1 ratio
for work to recovery periods. For example, a runner would alternate 30–40
seconds of hard sprinting with 15–20 seconds... 阅读全帖 |
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G***a 发帖数: 27294 | 29 我一看你给的abstract,就笑了。原来根本没有任何神秘之处 ~
关键句子在:Exercise time was adjusted to maintain caloric expenditure (400
kcal per session).
这句话什么意思? 意思就是,不管你的intensity level,控制的不是时间,而是总卡
路里燃烧
这不是一个fair comparison。因为high intensity training,一个特征是post-
burning。
因为high intensity里面,你把肌肉搞到了潜力上限,运动完了,氧债还要还,肌肉疲
劳也要缓解,这些东西,还要继续燃烧热量。增加的肌肉也需要大量ATP来maintain(
这点很多人不知道,就是肌肉静止也耗大量能量)
而low intensity不用。
所以控制卡路里,low intensity吃亏了。
实际生活中,情况不是这么简单的。最大问题就是,如果你fitness level不够,一上
来high intensity就会受伤。
受伤啥都别练了
还有一个问题是low intensity能保存体力,... 阅读全帖 |
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G***a 发帖数: 27294 | 30 我一看你给的abstract,就笑了。原来根本没有任何神秘之处 ~
关键句子在:Exercise time was adjusted to maintain caloric expenditure (400
kcal per session).
这句话什么意思? 意思就是,不管你的intensity level,控制的不是时间,而是总卡
路里燃烧
这不是一个fair comparison。因为high intensity training,一个特征是post-
burning。
因为high intensity里面,你把肌肉搞到了潜力上限,运动完了,氧债还要还,肌肉疲
劳也要缓解,这些东西,还要继续燃烧热量。增加的肌肉也需要大量ATP来maintain(
这点很多人不知道,就是肌肉静止也耗大量能量)
而low intensity不用。
所以控制卡路里,low intensity吃亏了。
实际生活中,情况不是这么简单的。最大问题就是,如果你fitness level不够,一上
来high intensity就会受伤。
受伤啥都别练了
还有一个问题是low intensity能保存体力,... 阅读全帖 |
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r********m 发帖数: 593 | 31 这楼包括Cellcosmet, Chanel, Chantecaille, Cle de Peau
===Cellcosmet===
除非特别说明, 小样均为管装
面霜类
Ultra Vital Intensive Cellular Skin Care Cream
L22L
Size 3mL
Value 24.00
Qty 2
Price 5.00 each
Sensitive Night Cream jar
L04E1, L25A
Size 3mL
Value 21.00
Qty 2
Price 4.00 each
Sensitive Day Cream jar
L21B, K25J2
Size 3mL
Value 20.00
Qty 2
Price 4.00 each
Prevent Night Cream jar
L17B, L01E, K12G
Size 3mL
Value 14.00
Qty 3
Price 3.00... 阅读全帖 |
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r********m 发帖数: 593 | 32 这楼包括Cellcosmet, Chanel, Chantecalle, Cle de Peau
===Cellcosmet=== 图1
除非特别说明, 小样均为管装
面霜类
Ultra Vital Intensive Cellular Skin Care Cream
N23A
Size 3mL
Value 25.00
Price 5.00
Ultra Vital light Skin Care Emulsion
N22A
Size 3mL
Value 20.00
Price 4.00
Sensitive Night Cream jar
M25G
Size 3mL
Value 22.00
Price 4.00
Sensitive Day Cream jar
L21B
Size 3mL
Value 21.00
Price 4.00
Eye Contour Gel-XT 眼霜
M14C
Size 3mL
Value 32.00
Pric... 阅读全帖 |
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g***j 发帖数: 40861 | 33 http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/07/health/respiratory-virus-midwest/
(CNN) -- A respiratory virus is sending hundreds of children to hospitals in
Missouri and possibly throughout the Midwest and beyond, officials say.
The unusually high number of hospitalizations reported now could be "just
the tip of the iceberg in terms of severe cases," said Mark Pallansch, a
virologist and director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's
Division of Viral Diseases.
"We're in the middle of looking into... 阅读全帖 |
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c**********0 发帖数: 836 | 34 Update: added English report link
中国年轻父母追捧的雅培奶粉竟然完全不符合国际标准,也未达到中国国家标准。昨天
,第三方机构香港CERResearch公司发布报告称,其送检了从中国市场购买的六个品牌
的婴幼儿配方奶粉,检测结果均不合格,雅培样品是最差的。
□检测结果
六品牌均不合格雅培喜康宝最差
CERResearch从事中国市场的调查和研究,公司 CEO Graham Earnshaw(晏格文)昨
天接受记者采访时称,公司日前从上海和香港购买了六个品牌的婴幼儿配方奶粉,邮寄
到德国一个世界一流的专业检测食品安全的实验室进行成分检测和分析。
“目前,这些样品的检测数据都出来了,我们将这些数据提供给专家,由他们做出
判断”,晏格文表示,目前专家的态度是,检测的6个样品中,没有一个符合中国国家
标准。其中,雅培的样品被检测出是送检样品中最差的一个,完全不符合国际标准,也
未达中国新国标。
>>雅培样品问题
酪蛋白太高疑高温处理
报告指出,根据中国标准,婴幼儿配方奶粉中乳清蛋白与酪蛋白的最低比例不能低
于60%,而雅培的喜康宝一段的最终检测结果为41%... 阅读全帖 |
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y***r 发帖数: 1845 | 35 没想到睡袋这么光明这么孝顺~~帮忙顶
我的个人看法是:首先要搞清楚高血压的原因。是家族遗传问题,还是伴随血糖产生的
,和胰岛素抗性是否有联系,心电图结果如何等。然后才能确定跑步是否有效。假如没
有什么特殊的原因,就是大多数人那样,活动少,饮食没有注意(比如米面特别多),
血脂也高一些,心脏机能弱,那么跑步应该会有一些效果。
有人专门做过这方面的研究,就是跑步是否可以改善高血压:
J Strength Cond Res. 2009 Nov;23(8):2331-8. doi: 10.1519/JSC.
0b013e3181bac418.
Effects of treadmill running and resistance exercises on lowering blood
pressure during the daily work of hypertensive subjects.
Mota MR, Pardono E, Lima LC, Arsa G, Bottaro M, Campbell CS, Simões HG.
Source
Laboratory of Ph... 阅读全帖 |
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r********m 发帖数: 593 | 36 现在贴 Cle de Peau
明星经典
The Cream (jar) 这只的瓶子很漂亮,就象正品的那种. 图1
PTA
Size 5mL
(Value 88.00)
Price 18.00
The Cream (jar)
HXHA, HXHE
Size 2mL
(Value 35.00)
QTY 6
Price 10.00
The Cream (jar)
NTBT, NTBU
Size 2mL
(Value 35.00)
Qty 2
Price 6.00 each
The Cream (Sample book) (pack)
JRQS, 7LTAB, 7XTBB
Size 0.3mL X 3pack
Qty 9
(Value 16.00)
Price 3.00 each or 2 for 5.00
Sample book 每本3片装, 每片刚好是用一次的量, 很方便... 阅读全帖 |
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k**********4 发帖数: 16092 | 38 I was pretty sure it was paranoia, because according to DSV V4.0:
A pervasive pattern of instability of interpersonal relationships, self-
image, and affects, and marked impulsivity beginning by early adulthood and
present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the
following:
1. frantic efforts to avoid real or imagined abandonment. Note: Do not
include suicidal or self-mutilating behavior covered in Criterion 5.
2. a pattern of unstable and intense interpersonal relati... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1 | 39 Spoiler alert: 中或输
https://www.reddit.com/r/taiwan/comments/87i2lk/scenario_the_fourth_taiwan_
strait_crisis_of_2020/
2018 (March onward) – America and China initiate a series of tit-for-tat
trade restrictions and tariffs, gradually resulting in economic losses and
stock market drops totaling in the hundreds of billions
Mid-2019 – Somewhat overdue, the next global recession begins, mostly due
to bad debts and a round of mass layoffs originating in the Chinese economy.
Stock market crashes and so... 阅读全帖 |
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p***r 发帖数: 4859 | 40 70% X MHR就好了。不用按RHR来算。
Jack Daniels的书里面有提到:
http://www.coacheseducation.com/endur/jack-daniels-aug-00.htm
Running Training: Goals of Training
Article By: Jack Daniels
This article is a continuation from Part 2: Aerobic Profile
Original Article: Part 1: Principles of Training
Part 3:
Goals of Training.
What a runner is really trying to accomplish through training are the follow
ing. (I) Improve the body's ability to transport blood and oxygen, (2) Incre
ase the ability of the running muscles to e... 阅读全帖 |
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d***o 发帖数: 761 | 41
Yes, Running Can Make You High
By GINA KOLATA
THE runner’s high: Every athlete has heard of it, most seem to believe in
it and many say they have experienced it. But for years scientists have
reserved judgment because no rigorous test confirmed its existence.
Yes, some people reported that they felt so good when they exercised that it
was as if they had taken mood-altering drugs. But was that feeling real or
just a delusion? And even if it was real, what was the feeling supposed to
be, and what... 阅读全帖 |
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r********m 发帖数: 593 | 42 现在贴 Shiseido 资生堂的
Future Solution LX系列 图1
除非特别注明,小样为袋装
Future Solution LX Regenerating Cream (jar) 晚霜
JXMX
Size 6mL
Value 30.00
Price 6.00
Buy this, get one of Future Solution XL Day Cream SPF 15 (1.5mL) free
Future Solution LX Regenerating Cream (tube) 晚霜
5XTG3
Size 3mL
Value 15.00
Price 2.00
Future Solution XL Day Cream SPF 15 (tube) 日霜
TTQT
Size 3mL
Value 14.00
Qty 2
Price 2.00 each or 2 for 3.00
Future Solut... 阅读全帖 |
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r********m 发帖数: 593 | 43 这楼贴 La Prairie, Laura Mercier, L'occitane, Murad, and Natura Bisse
=== La Prairie===
除非特别注明,小样均为管装
Platinum Rare 系列
Cellular Serum Platinum Rare pack
13550430
Size 0.9mL
Value 20.00
Qty 2
Price 2.00 each
Cellular Cream Platinum Rare pack
13550830
Size 0.9mL
Value 16.00
Qty 2
Price 2.00 each
Cellular Power系列 图1
Cellular Power Charge Night 晚霜
2A12, 2A13
Size 5mL
Value 59.00
Qty 5
Price 10.00 each
Buy one, get one sample free
Cellular Power Char... 阅读全帖 |
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a*******o 发帖数: 699 | 44 来自主题: WaterWorld版 - water How to SUCCESSFULLY teach a baby to sleep - 3rd ed.
Group Owner
BabeGirlMom · Pass a Note!
Posted 02/11/2009
http://community.babycenter.com/post/a5417415/how_to_successful
1) WHY?
Sleep training is NOT a fix-all-solution to all sleep problems. If your baby
is not sleeping well, there are usually good reasons why.
The most common reasons are:
1) Overtiredness. All sleep problems are at least partly due to
overtiredness. Some problems my have been initiated by illness, teething, or
phases; but be... 阅读全帖 |
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n********k 发帖数: 2818 | 45 As you folks are discussing Cori, I happened to read his autobiography and
find it both interesting and enlightening:)))...BTW, it sounds Richard Axel
is a lot nicer than what I/we have heard...or in another word, his cruelty
is rooted in his obsession with science and indifference to humanity:))); As
well, it is pretty...he noted Cori but left his ex out...pretty human or
not human?
Autobiography
Richard AxelNew York City is my world. I was born in Brooklyn, the first
child of immigrant parents... 阅读全帖 |
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j****1 发帖数: 10 | 46 第一次看到有人问排球 你住哪?这好像没有华人组识打排球 但是排球活动不少 也会
碰到一些 以下是我会去的
周一 7-9p
Beaverton Foursquare Church
13565 SW Walker Rd, Beaverton, OR 97005
Intensity:++
Cost: free
周二 7:30-9:30p
Southwest Community Center
6820 SW 45th Ave, Portland, OR 97219
Intensity:+++
Cost: $6.5
周四 7:30-9:30p
Southwest Community Center
6820 SW 45th Ave, Portland, OR 97219
Intensity:+++
Cost: $6.5
周五 7-9:30p
The Courts in Beaverton
14523 SW Millikan Way, Beaverton, OR
Intensity:+++++
Cost: $4
周六 7-9:45p
Tualatin Hills Rec Center
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r********m 发帖数: 593 | 48 这楼包括La Mer 和 Lancome
===La Mer===
大家都熟悉的小样,就不贴图了.
精华类, 除非特别注明,小样为管装
The concentrate bottle
EC2
Size 5mL
Value 48.00
Price 16.00
The concentrate
DA2
Size 3mL
Value 29.00
Qty 3
Price 9.00 each or 3 for 25.00
The Brightening Essence Intense bottle, pump 美白精华
AA1
Size 5mL
Value 43.00
Qty 4
Price 8.00 each or 2 for 15.00
The Brightening Essence Intense
AA1
Size 3mL
Value 26.00
Qty 13
Price 4.00 each or 3 for 10.00
The Radiance Serum
A82, B82, A52
Size 3mL
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r********m 发帖数: 593 | 49 现在贴 Shiseido 资生堂
Future Solution LX系列 图1
Intensive treatment mask 深层修复面膜
4IWCH
Size 1 sheet
Qty 2
Price 8.00 each or 2 for 15.00
Buy all, get Total Regenerating Serum (1.5mL) free
Total Regenerating Serum 精华, tube
4PZSP
Size 2mL
Value 15.00
Qty 2
Price 3.00 each
Total Regenerating Serum 精华, pack
Size 1.5mL
Value 11.00
Free with 2 of Intensive treatment mask purchase
Daytime Protective Cream SPF 15 日霜, jar
FAAN
Size 6mL
Value 29.... 阅读全帖 |
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r********m 发帖数: 593 | 50 这楼包括 Amore Pacific, Bobbi brown, Burberry, Caudalie, Cellcosmet, Chanel,
Chantecaille and Cle de Peau
===Amore Pacific===
韩国的品牌, 除非特别注明, 小样均为袋装
Time Response系列 图1
Time Response Skin Renewal Serum
M19504
Size 1mL
Value 18.00
Qty 5
Price 1.50 each or 5 for 6.00
Time Response Skin Renewal Gel cream 面胶
M07411
Size 1mL
Value 9.00
Qty 4
Price 1.00 each
Time Response Skin Renewal Eye Cream 眼霜
N97908
Size 0.5mL
Value 9.00
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