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o**s
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来自主题: PhotoForum版 - Contemporary Oligarchy
Found an old piece by Guy Tal.
Some of you aka 棒冰 might be interested in reading.
http://guytal.com/wordpress/2012/11/13/contemporary-oligarchy/
y***u
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来自主题: Military版 - 英国贵族已经被同化了
英国贵族已经被同化了.The evidence proved that the English aristocracy had
literally sealed a "marriage with Jewry" in terms of its "blood substance."
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England's Jewish Aristocracy (2)
January 17, 2011
by Henry Makow Ph.D.
In 1941, Friedrich Wilhelm Euler, Nazi Germany's leading expert on Jewish
genealogy, published a lengthy article entitled "The Penetration of Jewish
Blood into the English Upper Class."
Euler asked how modern Bri... 阅读全帖
y***u
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论民主与民治:"民主"是一个误译
2013-01-26 07:46:31
追究民主与共和的本义
揭露“民主”与“共和”两词的百年误译及相关政治误解问题
作者:fangzhou999 hzhy(整理)
推荐:何新
现代汉语里存在着很多翻译得不够合理的外来名词。其中多数是对西方词汇的本意理
解略有偏差,尚非存在着致命的缺陷。但也确有个别外文名词——而且是常用名词的汉
语翻译与其外文本意南辕北辙,只因早已约定俗成,竟然积非成是,以至于流毒后来。
其中影响最大,为祸最甚者,当数“民主”与“共和”两词,真可谓指鹿为马。笔者不
敢不辩,以正视听。
现代汉语中通常所说的“民主”指英文中的“democracy”,“共和”则指英文中
的“republic”。据西方的说法,“Democracy”源自古希腊人所用的古希腊语,而“
republic”则源自古罗马人所使用的拉丁语,正所谓“没有希腊就没有民主,没有罗马
就没有共和”。
近年来闻有国人说:“民主与共和在中国古代早就有了,无须再从西方引进!”不错,
“民主”与“共和”确实是古已有之,可不幸的是,它们在文言文中的涵义与其在现代
白话文中的涵... 阅读全帖
b********n
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Concerning Trumponomics in the coming year when he becomes Potus :
1° The reign of Putin as Taras Bulba of Syria and of Oligarchy big oil
outside the US is now a given.
The Duck won't change that.
Putin will rule in ME thanks to the Iran connection and even Erdogan wants
to join his PIVOT to Asia as pardner in fossil and new currency alliance
which discards petrodollar down the road.
For Trump this is a linch pin to bringing down his print to infinity game to
invest 1 trilion $ + in infrastructu... 阅读全帖
c****x
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2 hours ago
If Trump destroys the Democrats, there will only one Party a Monopoly
Kontrolled by a Oligarchy instead of Duopoly Kontrolled by a Oligarchy. And
Hegemony Lives on, no matter what.
The only difference between a Dictatorship and Democracy is a Democracy has
one extra Party, but when both Parties are Kontrolled by the same Oligarchy
by threats, bribes and money then all you have a Democratic Dictatorship.

end
b********n
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It is disgusting, money talks, all those who posted $10 mil beg to lose it
as she is smuggled abroad with the help of security firm she pays for, as by
that they gain $100+ mil payable by grateful Dad worth at least $2billions .
it is gangsterism and kidnaping for ransom, under illegal extraterritorial
US sanctions with no shred of evidence of Meng involvement so far, as money
are changing hands as I write, Chinese ruling oligarchy budged under US
banksters pressure to steal from the money dir... 阅读全帖
b********n
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【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: beijingren (to thine own self be true), 信区: Military
标 题: 床铺台湾电话就是要尝试阻止美元崩溃,并且破坏席大的一路一带
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Dec 4 19:52:08 2016, 美东)
Concerning Trumponomics in the coming year when he becomes Potus :
1° The reign of Putin as Taras Bulba of Syria and of Oligarchy big oil
outside the US is now a given.
The Duck won't change that.
Putin will rule in ME thanks to the Iran connection and even Erdogan wants
to join his PIVOT to Asia as pardner in fossil and new currency... 阅读全帖
j**p
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如果没有民选,当然也可以三权分立,N权分立也可以
这样就成为彻底的Oligarchy
其实中国现在的制度就是中央集权,官僚制度下的oligarchy。
b********n
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New Report from Princeton and Northwestern Proves It: The U.S. is an
Oligarchy
http://libertyblitzkrieg.com/2014/04/16/new-report-from-princet
Despite the seemingly strong empirical support in previous studies for
theories of majoritarian democracy, our analyses suggest that majorities of
the American public actually have little influence over the policies our
government adopts. Americans do enjoy many features central to democratic
governance, such as regular elections, freedom of speech and as... 阅读全帖
z**k
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http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/princeton-experts-say-us-
A new study from Princeton spells bad news for American democracy—namely,
that it no longer exists.
Asking "[w]ho really rules?" researchers Martin Gilens and Benjamin I. Page
argue that over the past few decades America's political system has slowly
transformed from a democracy into an oligarchy, where wealthy elites wield
most power.
Using data drawn from over 1,800 different policy initiatives from 1981 to
2002, the two conclude ... 阅读全帖
b********n
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民主自由个屁
Jimmy Carter: The U.S. Is an "Oligarchy With Unlimited Political Bribery"
https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/07/30/jimmy-carter-u-s-oligarchy-
unlimited-political-bribery/?comments=1#comments
b********n
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All of those apparatchiks working at that globalist institution called UN (
just like other ones called IMF, BIS or WB) are assigned to their positions
by the western oligarchy: those apparatchiks work for globalist oligarchy.
UN cannot override China's sovereign rights. That sea is called Chinese sea
for a reason. High time China builds up another UN (this one based inside
Chinese borders) and make another ruling, this ruling favorable to China. I
am sure that Jesuit Order, which is running Mur... 阅读全帖
b********n
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Treaties meant nothing for those oligarchy running you, simpleton. Every
single treaty former Soviet Union signed with North Atlantic Terrorist
Organization and Murica was violated the moment those oligarchy running
Murica and EU felt it was no longer in their interest to abide by them.
t**x
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来自主题: Military版 - 无标题
America's Nine Classes: The New Class Hierarchy (April 29, 2014)
Eight of the nine classes are hidebound by conventions, neofeudal and
neocolonial arrangements and a variety of false choices.
There are many ways to slice and dice America's power/wealth hierarchy. The
conventional class structure is divided along the lines of income, i.e. the
wealthy, upper middle class, middle class, lower middle class and the poor.
I've suggested that a more useful scheme is to view America through the lens
n... 阅读全帖
j****d
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中国是这个吧:
寡头制(Oligarchy)
寡头制的政府形式下,权力掌握于社会中的一小撮即精英之手。这个精英阶级由一
系列的特征来加以识别,例如:王统、财富、家族背景、军事地位、宗教或政治的世系
。在寡头制下,出现政治上有力的家族并非罕见,这些家族能对政府施加令人不安的巨
大影响。一般来说,洛克菲勒家族和肯尼迪家族便是这一类家族体制的成例。
b*****s
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http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/peterfoster/100088312/why-ai-
Why Ai Weiwei's case matters for the future of China on the world stage
By Peter Foster World Last updated: May 17th, 2011
There’s a perception in Britain that human rights issues in China are
really just a hobby-horse of the liberal left, an issue that only bothers
people who pay an annual subscription to Amnesty International.
That’s a big mistake, because human rights – or more broadly, political
reforms and good governance – are... 阅读全帖
k***g
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来自主题: History版 - 我朝这个隔代指定
除了胡 core,没有别人是隔代指定的了,所以算不上制度吧;
TG 现在是朝着 oligarchy 的方向走,走好了,是大英帝国的路;走差了,就是前苏联。
不过八九以后,有一点 TG 是很明白的:We must all hang together, or assuredly
we
shall all hang separately 。

说句不中听的话,这个制度肯定长久不了。
总会发生这代核心对下代储君不满的情形,而试图废掉下代储君,而不是指定再下代储
君的情形。那时候就会你死我活,天下大乱。
w**t
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你这么说我想起老马说有6种政府,三种好的:monarchy, aristocracy and democracy
.三种坏的:tyranny, oligarchy and anarchy.
t******o
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来自主题: History版 - 对比红朝和宋朝政治制度
太祖独裁是僭主政治tyranny,现在是寡头政治oligarchy。
按亚里士多德的说法,分别是君主制Monarchy和贵族制的变态形式。
f*r
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来自主题: History版 - 历史假设坑:岸英不牺牲的话
嗯,会是Oligarchy而不是Monarchy
m***y
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Second this, playing dumb won't go far.
Especially on Bullet 2, Biao was clear (actually everybody knew) that Mao's
roadmap is
anarchy->Mao's dictatorship-> balanced collective oligarchy in the near
future after his death -> power converges to Mao's family (Qing Jiang->
Yuanxin->Xinyu)
But it's gonna be hard. Mao changed his style after 1949, from uniting his
sidekicks together to turning them against each other. And this roadmap only
works out by maintaining delicate power balance between fract... 阅读全帖
k***g
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nod, 其实这是很有争议的一个例子之一,因为这个数据库 1848 年就给了美国 full-
democracy 的地位,但实际上当时美国还有奴隶制,妇女和少数民族仍然没有平等的投
票权和政治权利,所以按照另外的划分,美国大约要到 1965 才能算 democracy,具体
的说:
1800 - 1843: competitive oligarchy
1843 - 1920: semi-democracy
1920 - 1965: narrow-democracy
1965 - now: democracy
之所以 1965 年是个界限是因为 Voting Rights Act of 1965 ,这个 Act 废除了对于
投票权的所有限制(主要是针对黑人的限制),譬如在此之前,南方的一些州要求必须
通过识字考试才能有投票权。

b****r
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kzeng (寱语·无味赛百味) 于 (Sat Oct 22 21:43:28 2011, 美东) 提到:
这是用的最多一个数据库,当然也有很多争议,但是也是影响力最大的一个;
顺便画了几个版上热门国家,缩写看索引。
中国最民主的时候是 1912 前后,其他时候都低于 0 线;
日本那个斜升的阶段对应的大致是明治维新,二战中日本还是高于 0 的,后来被米国
占领结束后就直接升10了;
法国是跳的最厉害的国家,几上几下,现在还没有10;
三哥也没有 10;
英国升 10 其实也是比较晚的时候了;
新加坡港独立的时候很高,后来就持续定于 0 了;
这个数据有些地方很不靠谱,作为数据党,批判的看吧,呵呵
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hairi (搞一个女机器人当情妇) 于 (Sat Oct 22 21:49:04 2011, 美东) 提到:
新加坡不仅是专制,而且是世袭专制,比中国民主,肯定是喝了普氏老将迷魂汤

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i*****7
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来自主题: History版 - 苏格拉底怎么死的?
苏格拉底的罪名到底跟同性恋有无关系,现在没人知道,因为史料不详。我的意见是无
关。因为有人认为有关,所以我提及了一下。
代议民主在古希腊还没有出现。雅典是古典民主,也就是直接民主。所以苏格拉底无从
支持或者反对。按照Plato的说法,苏格拉底支持Sparta的Oligarchy制度,也就是古典
共产主义。所以他交往Sparta支持的伪政府,非常合情理。
苏格拉底之死,现在一般的看法是:不涉及言论自由,而更多地涉及政治斗争。除非你
有史料能颠覆这个目前的普遍看法。
苏格拉底被给予了机会流亡,但是他选择接受死刑。这个是否算自杀,完全看你如何定
义自杀。
c*********d
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来自主题: History版 - 钱鏐铁券杂谈
BRIEF DISCUSSION ON IRON CREDENTIALS OF QIAN CHU DYNASTY
文/御简斋 By Yu Jianzhai
In modern times, because of world-wide wars and revolutionary movements,
there is no longer privilege for the old lord. The law advocates equality,
and those new aristocrats call themselves ordinary people. But under
oligarchy, there're still privileges. Therefore, its meaningful in rereading
Qian Liu's iron credentials.

《百家姓》以“赵钱孙李”开头,
宋王明清《玉照新志》据此考证说,是
“两浙钱氏有国时小民所著”,成书于北
宋初年吴越国尚存之时。北宋开国皇帝
姓赵,因此排第一。而钱氏为五代十国
时吴越国王的姓氏... 阅读全帖
w****j
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来自主题: Military版 - 马南(司)还有一点人格么?
啥意思?这不是老马的话么?老马的原话是6种制度,三种好的: principality,
aristocracy, democracy;和三种差的:tyranny, oligarchy, anarchy. 其实就是三
种制度,每种都有好的一面和糟糕的一面。司马南稍微发挥了一下而已。你有什么意见?
w****j
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唉,政治学ABC啊,知道老马说过三种好的制度和三种坏的制度么:三种好的是
principality, aristocracy,democracy;三种坏的是tyranny, oligarchy,anarchy?
TG现在的状态是大杂烩,不属于这六个里面的任何一个,所有集权真的是比较合适,和
独裁有一定距离。您老需要读书了。
i**b
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china is the largest capitalist oligarchy...
M*****8
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来自主题: Military版 - 华盛顿的埃及噩梦 (ZT)
华盛顿的埃及噩梦 (ZT)
你可以用以下的阿拉伯半岛电视台的连接看埃及的现场新闻直播:
http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/
Published on Friday, January 28, 2011 by CommonDreams.org
Washington's Egyptian Nightmare
by Gary Olson
As I watch events unfolding on the streets of Tunisia, Yemen, Egypt and
elsewere in the region I'm reminded of a summer I spent in Egypt studying
Arabic language and Middle East politics at The American University in Cairo
. For a time I was booked into the upscale Shepheard Hotel (on the Fulbright
Commission's... 阅读全帖
k******2
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来自主题: Military版 - 德国击破英法意的三国反德联盟
国家社会主义,是人民自由尊严的基础。
米犹oligarchy, 搞个巴马black mascot娱乐大家,背后插管吸血。
k******2
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black mascot for wall street oligarchy
k******2
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"black mascot for wall street oligarchy"
k*****r
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来自主题: Military版 - 看来老美真的不行
black mascot for wall street oligarchy
k*****r
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black mascot for wall street oligarchy
n*****2
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来自主题: Military版 - 美国是资本专制一党独裁国(zz)
http://www.tianyayidu.com/article-a-195575.html
【楼主】 作者:古明浩 发表时间:2011-1-3 11:34:00 做记号

曾任里根政府财政部助理部长、《华尔街日报》准主笔的华盛顿乔治敦大学战略和国际
研究政治经济
中心教授保罗·克雷格·罗伯茨(Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, former Assistant
Secretary US Treasury, Associate Editor Wall Street Journal, Professor
of Political Economy Center for Strategic and International Studies
Georgetown University Washington DC.)去年(10)六月二日被《全球研究(Global
Research)》网站问及:「美国被认为是当今世界最成功的国家,是什么促成了美国的
成功?」
(Question: Dr. Roberts, the United States is regarded... 阅读全帖
k*****r
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来自主题: Military版 - obama支持率降到50%一下了
文科傻妞还真把这总统当回事儿了。
he is just a black mascot for wall street oligarchy
k*****r
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巴馬就是花儿街oligarchy的一个black mascot.
逗大家玩的。
S**b
发帖数: 1883
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受社会主义教育长大的一群老中理工phd, 本来在数学物理领能大有作为,建立和谐社
会,脑子昏到去加入为华尔街吸血鬼当打工仔,做美国financial oligarchy的奴才,
你说可悲不可悲?
占领华尔街的劳动人民如果抓不到吸血鬼,抓一些吸血鬼手下打工仔就地正法,我看也
不错。你们还是自己掂量一下,不要到时候做了几年quant, 钱没挣到,身份没拿到,
老婆没搞到,最后哪一天下班后在battery park的金牛雕像旁边被民众乱棒打死,那就
不合算了啊。
w***u
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来自主题: Military版 - 你站哪一方?
当然不是,但是这种基本上单一卖方的市场价格决定是个很tricky的东西。Oligarchy?
o****g
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oligarchy.
k*****r
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来自主题: Military版 - 嵯峨浩是个好老婆
米犹的house泥格,wall street oligarchy的mascot, 丫就是一天生奴才。
b********n
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来自主题: Military版 - 38 Quotes About Republicans
“Now I will tell you the answer to my question. It is this. The Party seeks
power entirely for its own sake. We are not interested in the good of
others; we are interested solely in power, pure power. What pure power means
you will understand presently. We are different from the oligarchies of the
past in that we know what we are doing. All the others, even those who
resembled ourselves, were cowards and hypocrites. The German Nazis and the
Russian Communists came very close to us in their metho... 阅读全帖
a**u
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来自主题: Military版 - 中國現象: 不貪不是個好東西
國內當官的, 不貪不是個好東西, 貪了才合群。 不貪是劉邦入秦, 有野心。
這點要清楚的認識。 不要拿80/90年代的思想來思考問題, 當時錢少, 貪錢是個問題
。 現在國內不缺的就是錢。 在官僚資本主義的現在, 貪是正常的, 合人情的。 你
不貪, 表示你有野心, 想利用民意造反做頭, 剝奪官僚資本家的既得利益。 製造動
盪社會不穩定。
溫在他那個位置也不好貪。 要貪也需要旁人幫他貪。 就算溫不貪, 不等於他小孩親
戚不貪。 你可以說溫管教不嚴, 但現在不是以前的家庭制度,光靠溫自己管, 真的
不好管。 親戚要發財不說, 人家也找上門。 這點也是官僚資本主義特色。 跟民主國
家比, 沒有民眾輿論監督, 跟以前帝制比也不如,以前官員最喜歡互相在皇帝面前
打小報告(谏), 搞不好可能滿門抄斬。 現在是一幫資本家官僚做老大, 產生一個
Oligarchy 認同的規則下競爭發財,這滋生發芽不好控制。
這點在現在情況下不大可能改變。 大家有飯吃, 最多網上罵罵出點氣。 這是中國的
NEW NORMAL。 跑個100年問題不大。 大家還是習慣吧。
y***u
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民主与共和的百年误读(摘要): 关于中国未来的政治发展
何新
2013-01-26 11:37:28
民主与共和的百年误读(摘要):
关于中国未来的政治发展
当两个汉语名词(noun,substantive)连用成一词组时,它们之间通常均是前后从属的
关系,例如汉语中以“主”作后缀的词组如:“国主”、“邦主”、“财主”、“地主
”、“业主”、“房主”、“车主”、“失主”等等,其涵义无一不是“某某的主人”。
同样的,古汉语中的“民主”本义为“众民的主人”。所以汉语中“民主”的本意即君
王即皇帝。西方人所说的“democracy”,据说来自古希腊文中的“Δημοκρτι
α” ,拉丁拼音的对应写法为“demokratia”,但在希腊语中其实应该被念作“
thmokratia”(西莫克拉提亚)。晚清和民国学者多沿用其英语发音,将其音译为“德谟
克拉西”。“
“Demo”在希腊语中的意思是“公民”,“kratia”则来自“κρατοσ”(kratos
,国家、权力、统治、管理),合起来就是“公民的国家、公民的管理、公民的治理”
之意,其汉语对译,理当是”民治“——“国民治理”,而不是恰好意义... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: Military版 - 偶尔在网上发现这样一篇文章
http://www.raskb.com/transactions/VOL64/VOL64-3.docx
“You are Dead, the Square is Dead”: The 1989 Chinese Pro-Democracy
Movement
by Karen EGGLESTON
You are dead, the Square is dead.
They say now is a great victory,
thinking that death can protect their criminal existence.
We live on,
We give our hearts to you,the dead ones,
to let you live again through our lives,
to complete the mission which you left incomplete.
by Gu Cheng and Yang... 阅读全帖
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所以老中在美国光投票是不够的,要有自己的有组织的利益集团和Super PAC,才能不
被人操。
"Researchers from Princeton University and Northwestern University have
concluded, after extensive analysis of 1,779 policy issues, that the U.S. is
in fact an oligarchy and not a democracy. What this means is that, although
'Americans do enjoy many features central to democratic governance,' '
majorities of the American public actually have little influence over the
policies our government adopts.' Their study (PDF), to be published in
Perspective... 阅读全帖
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Banana republic is a political science term for a politically unstable
country, whose economy is largely dependent on exporting a limited-resource
product, e.g. bananas. It typically has stratified social classes, including
a large, impoverished working class and a ruling plutocracy of business,
political, and military elites.[1] This politico-economic oligarchy controls
the primary-sector productions to exploit the country's economy.
g******4
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来自主题: Military版 - 民主, 民主, 民主 ...
"102 年公務人員特種考試法務部調查局調查人員考試試題"
一、民主政治如何實際咦鳎侩m有
多種對立的觀點,但較為廣泛被接受的民主模式包含自由主義
式民主(liberal democracy)、多元主義式民主(pluralist democrac
y)、競爭式菁英主義(competitive democracy)等觀點,試申論之。
【擬答】:
民主政治依據不同的「研究途徑」則會產生不同的多立觀點或&#
63972;論。若從民主政治的目的作為判準,則會產生以自由主義為目的的
「自由主義式民主」。而自由主義式民主的實際咦鞣绞剑#63860;再採用「團體途徑
」與「精英途徑」等研究途徑進行研究,則產生了「多元主義式民
主」與「競爭式菁英主義」等「經驗性民主理論」。
自由主義式民主
自由主義式民主觀點是指以採用民主方式達成自由主義目的(相對於社會主義式民主)。
又可區分為兩種主要的觀點
規範性民主&#... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: Military版 - 香港普选对港人的好处是
http://politics.slashdot.org/story/14/04/16/0221210/study-finds
"Researchers from Princeton University and Northwestern University have
concluded, after extensive analysis of 1,779 policy issues, that the U.S. is
in fact an oligarchy and not a democracy. What this means is that, although
'Americans do enjoy many features central to democratic governance,' '
majorities of the American public actually have little influence over the
policies our government adopts.' Their study (PDF), to be publishe... 阅读全帖
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