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d*******h
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来自主题: ChinaNews版 - 财富杂志: China Bashing is for Losers
看看这里有多少LOSER,呵呵
China Bashing is for Losers
Oct. 21 2010 - 2:17 pm
By SHIKHA DALMIA
China bashing has become a bi-partisan sport this election season. But if
the bashers won’t heed the economic case for not knocking down America’s
second largest trading partner, they ought to consider the political one:
Even if they get into office by peddling false economic theories, in order
to stay there they will have to produce the right results. This
protectionism never has – and never will – deliver.
Ever... 阅读全帖
M*V
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来自主题: ChinaNews版 - Joke: Presidential Debate 2012, Act III
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Oct 27 10:00:17 2012, 美东)
Joke: Presidential Debate 2012, Act III
10/22/2012
By Limin Wang
In the evening of October 16, 2012, at the Smack Complex of Hofstra
University on Long Island, New York, President Obama and former governor
Romney had the second finger-to-finger presidential debate. Candy Growly
tried her hardest to moderate them.
Outside the debate building, large swarms of people had decided on their own
to join the show. Some said that they wanted to bring their ow... 阅读全帖
M*****8
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【 以下文字转载自 Stock 讨论区 】
发信人: MB80528 (肥猫(Contrarian)[食MM而肥]), 信区: Stock
标 题: 米加金融公司外包国内大学毕业生做当日交易的抄盘手。
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Dec 9 22:25:51 2010, 美东)
December 9, 2010
Day Trading Still Alive, Outsourced to China
By DAVID BARBOZA
¶ BEIJING — Before the opening bell sounded on the New York Stock
Exchange on a recent Tuesday, a group of fresh college graduates clocked in
at a small trading firm on the outskirts of this capital city.
¶ They were hired to engage in rapid-fire stock trading wi... 阅读全帖
s******s
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你的观点有问题。 你把outsource理解成一种新科技就行了。
美国公司发现了一种新科技,名字叫做“outsourcing”. 这种
科技能有提高生产效率,有效降低成本,你还会认为会导致美国
的国际竞争力下降么?诚然,outsourcing会对低水平的美国工
人带来失业问题,但是其实几乎所有的高科技都会对低水平的
工人带来失业问题,但对美国竞争力是增强的!
关于hillary care,这个玩意儿承诺的太多,又不用多收钱,
怎么看怎么不像真的。obama care其实是走在一条正确的方向,
但是美国政治太复杂,走在正确的方向不等于就会变成好的政策。
其实,有德国这个榜样在前面,怎么改革并不是很难下手,关键
是怎么平衡政治因素,加多少猪肉,obama本身能力够不够推动
m******o
发帖数: 542
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z***s
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来自主题: Military版 - 美国IT新的潮流:insourcing
标题可能断章取义了。
strategic shifts like Mott's are rare. Only 4% of the 513 business
technology pros we surveyed in our 2011 State of IT Outsourcing Survey said
their companies plan to decrease their use of IT outsourcing. Seventeen
percent were weighing their options, and the remaining 79% were maintaining
or increasing their outsourcing.
http://www.informationweek.com/news/global-cio/interviews/24000
W*******n
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来自主题: Military版 - Joke: Presidential Debate 2012, Act III
Joke: Presidential Debate 2012, Act III
10/22/2012
By Limin Wang
In the evening of October 16, 2012, at the Smack Complex of Hofstra
University on Long Island, New York, President Obama and former governor
Romney had the second finger-to-finger presidential debate. Candy Growly
tried her hardest to moderate them.
Outside the debate building, large swarms of people had decided on their own
to join the show. Some said that they wanted to bring their own tough
questions. Some said that they wanted ... 阅读全帖
s******g
发帖数: 163
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哈哈:)
Hmmmm....maybe the Chinese programmer outsource his job to an Indian
programmer for 1/5 of his price. And the Indian programmer outsource his job
to a laid off American programmer who was desperate for work?
Global outsourcing. Gotta to love how it works.
Verizon should fire all their programmers and just hire the Chinese. Save $$
$$$$.
l*****i
发帖数: 20533
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合理的推论是IT工作会全面outsource,不再在美国国内搞了。因为这样的法令一旦通
过,本质上就是提高本国劳动力价格,增加了本国和国外的劳动力价格差,从而给
outsource进一步提供动力。而另一个副作用,就是国内该行业整体水平也许会下降。
此外,如果又进一步限制本国公司outsource,就会严重影响本国公司的竞争能力。
亚当斯密早就论述过这种简单的贸易壁垒对本国只有伤害,不会有好处。而中国闭关锁
国的历史经验教训也表明这种手段不可取。
b********n
发帖数: 38600
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What you are seeing is rerun of the Apprenticeship President attempting to
bully china once again before the "Big Meeting" at the G-20. Why would Trump
and his band of midget liberal trade poodles be taking turns at the media
with their hard line poodle yapping at China? Somebody is trying convince
you of something. What could that be? Don't waste your time. China knows
what it's doing. US Soy has 30 days to ship before it starts rotting.
Meanwhile US Soy farmers and Hog farmers are on Trump Wel... 阅读全帖
i**y
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It's Obama's policy, not just Obama, Bush and Clinton as well. The whole US
policy didn't really try to stop outsourcing.
Obama blames outsourcing, but he did NOTHING to stop it. He actually tries
to raise corporate tax which will encourage more outsourcing. Do you agree?
Well, you just need a networth from Romney, You don't need his tax return
year by year. Anyway, I bet Romney doesn't fully understand his own return
as it is surely done by a group of accountants. You cannot assess how
successf... 阅读全帖
t*********r
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"中产阶级收入不动,工作机会流失的原因不是富人赚钱了。" 中产阶级收入不动,
而富人收入大幅增加就是富人赚钱了, 难道不是? 否则不应该按比例增加? 美国政
府代表大资本家利益不是说着玩的。只是有聪明的资本家和更贪婪的资本家。对美国中
产阶级来说,既然全球化没有好处,为什么要支持政府签世贸?
工作流失不意味中产阶级就要收入下降。 全球化的好处被富人拿走了, 还趁机多拿了
一些。
1, 你举例-- 中美经过全球化贸易, 全国福利是增加了。外包前利润200, 贸易之后
利润变成了220刀, 比如。 后来说的不错, 产业结构变化, 20个产业工人失业,
变成5个服务工作。 那么你看, 财富分配变化了。 财富聚集。 但实际上, 中产阶级
收入在下降。 资本家拿到的远远不是100刀而是不止120刀, 而是190刀, 剩下30刀留
给了服务的5(以前是100刀给20人)个工作,资本家减少了15个人的工资福利成本,而
15个人进入其他行业或失业。富人交的税也许增加了一点, 但是税率下降了。 失业的
工人开始领食物券, 被称为懒人。 进入低收行业的工人开始借贷消费想维持以前的生
活水平。从200... 阅读全帖
C****n
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来自主题: USANews版 - 外包让当今富人的
I have outsourced a lot jobs to China, and Vietnam, and create jobs for
people in those countries.
Then I have hired so many Americans to do the sales, customer service,
accounting, Human Resources ...etc.
The key thing is: If not out sourcing, if I am not allowed to hire people in
China, if I have replace my workforce in China with the people in here, I
don't have a business.
Then We all are out of jobs.
Those Chinese helped created so many job opportunities in US. Remember what
I said, the bus... 阅读全帖
W*******n
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来自主题: USANews版 - Joke: Presidential Debate 2012, Act III
Joke: Presidential Debate 2012, Act III
10/22/2012
By Limin Wang
In the evening of October 16, 2012, at the Smack Complex of Hofstra
University on Long Island, New York, President Obama and former governor
Romney had the second finger-to-finger presidential debate. Candy Growly
tried her hardest to moderate them.
Outside the debate building, large swarms of people had decided on their own
to join the show. Some said that they wanted to bring their own tough
questions. Some said that they wanted ... 阅读全帖
d*********2
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来自主题: USANews版 - 华人参与政治要有长远眼光
是连锁的, 绿卡越多, 占用的h1b名额越少, 公司才能更敞开了招人, 才能减
慢outsource的速度, 提高规模效益。 对于有卡的, 没卡的, 公民, 非公民
, 公民子弟, 都是有好处的。
现在基础技术人员outsource的太多, 连管理层也纷纷outsource. 06年以前上海哪
有什么像样的白领码头。 现在经常电话会议大老板坐镇上海。

yo
curta
B******e
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You cannot deny the fact that labor cost is rising dramatically in China.
Also outsource means more financing to set things up which may turn against
you during downturns. Research has shown that during financial crisis, firms
de-outsource dramatically. Also there are jobs that cannot be outsourced in
China, e.g., a lot of the service sector as well as sophisticated equipment
that cannot be made in China because Chinese lack the technical know-how.
g***y
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你的关税的例子和我们说的现状不符。我们在说美国通过关税来遏制outsource 到中国。
你举的例子美国工业大发展时期关税定得很高,对应的是现在中国工业大发展时期关税
定得很高。和我们说的正好相反。
合适的例子是上次关税战,德国的生产力无法通过贸易得到消化,导致二次大战。
所以正常的贸易需求被关税阻止,可能会导致战争。
如果假设你的argument是对的,我们也可以把你的argument进一步推广到州与州之间如
下:
“跨州公司用对付工会以及提高劳工待遇诉求的方法就是用转移生产基地来要挟。
如果州政府对跨州公司资金转移以及做税的种种行为进行约束,跨州公司不可能这么肆
无忌惮。”
如果是这样,为什么不设州与州之间的关税?
在过去30年,中国的农民工没有从跨国公司的outsourcing收益?难道他们都是被共产
党和跨国公司拿枪逼着从农村不远千里去血汗工厂干活?
你问“美国生产力获得极大发展,经济实力明明很强,技术也非常牛逼,为什么人民生
活水平稳步降低??你真的以为是中国人抢了美国人饭碗?”
我真的以为是中国人抢了美国人饭碗。美国人可以干的活,中国人也可以干。中国民工
在短时间的大量涌现... 阅读全帖
c*******o
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来自主题: USANews版 - 全球财富不均
不知道有没有人意识到全球财富不均其实根源在于globalization和outsourcing。因为
本国的劳动者是在和全世界的劳动者竞争。资本家可以通过outsource实现利润最大化
。以前outsourced的是制造业,现在金融服务也紧跟这个趋势,我们公司很多记账、对
账的entry level工作都外包给印度公司了。而发展中国家的资本家也因为全球化积累
了更多财富,所以进一步推高房地产价格,这就是为什么美国很多中产负担不起的房子
,而很多外国买家搬着现金来抢。面对这样的趋势,中产阶级在全世界都是被消灭的命
运。
c*******o
发帖数: 608
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来自主题: USANews版 - 说说支持Trump的理由
支持Trump是因为他意识到这个国家现在和将来面临的巨大问题,他的主张也是对应于
这些问题提出的解决方案。这个国家的问题涉及很多方面,我只针对经济方面说说看法。
贸易逆差和产业空心化对一个国家经济会造成长远伤害,简单来说当一个国家长期进口
大于出口,对本国的产品有效需求下降,会造成GDP下降,就业不足,相信大家都知到
。从另一方面来看,等于也是在帮助竞争对手发展经济,增强实力,这就是80、90年代
以来,制造业向亚洲等国转移出现的趋势,先是日本然后是中国的崛起。中国因为廉价
的劳动力和搭上WTO的快车,关税下降,制造业迅速崛起,成为GDP仅次于美国的第二大
国。而美国由于高科技发展和金融服务业的兴旺,部分填补了制造业转移造成的就业不
足,但还是有相当部分劳动人口由于教育水平和地区经济结构的局限无法实现转向服务
业就业。
贸易逆差对本国经济另一个伤害是由于就业不足,大量失业人口只能靠福利维持,这样
会造成财政收支不平衡,要靠举债维持平衡。我认为Obama政府经济政策的失效就在于
QE的巨量放水只带来了资本价格的虚高,体现在股市和房价的飚升,而没有有效改善就
业。虽然失业率下降,那是因为很... 阅读全帖
d********f
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你以为人都不懂英文,我看sessions还切中要害,icc把一堆高中生搬来抽h1-b本来就
是xjb胡闹,你看看他sponsor过的bill
DEC 14 2015
NELSON, SESSIONS INTRODUCE BIPARTISAN BILL TO REDUCE H-1B VISAS, BOOST WAGES
Sessions: “3 in 4 Americans with STEM degrees do not have STEM employment:
there is a huge surplus of talented American labor being bypassed, displaced
or even forced to train their foreign replacements. The Protecting
American Jobs Act will help shield American workers from these abuses and
create much-needed opportunities for young, dr... 阅读全帖
f******s
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总的来讲, 讲的很好, 但是有些基础的问题值得探讨。
1, 资本,资本家,华尔街,并不是固化的。美国社会阶层并不是固化的, 还是有一
个上下循环的过程。 Elon Musk 就是吊丝翻身。投Trump的穷人,就是要保护上下循环
的机制。
猪党反而要把穷人固化在现有社会阶层里, 变成猪党铁杆票区。Larry elder对这个问
题, 分析的很明确。
楼主的思维中,资本被看成固化的静态。
2, 全球化/产业链outsourcing的问题, 是现在美国的生产力水平的必然结果。 美国
的创新成本低廉,所以必然引领世界潮流。但是生产成本高于地球平均水平, 所以规
模生产产业链必然要outsourcing。 所以Tesla-3的规模生产必然要outsourcing。在美
国,30%毛利润也不赚钱。
目前低端的产业回归,是针对midterm的权宜之计, midterm之后,失业率会上升。因
为中国楼市泡沫,劳动力成本上升; 同时美国减税, 有些产业会回归美国, 但不会
是全局回归,因为下班后,工人变成消费者,购物选择,不考虑产地。midterm之后,
华尔街会有大的调整,但是美国总体还是赢家,因为创... 阅读全帖
b********n
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【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: beijingren (to thine own self be true), 信区: Military
标 题: 绝了,美国人用孙子兵法一步一步解释中美贸易战
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Nov 22 13:50:25 2018, 美东)
What you are seeing is rerun of the Apprenticeship President attempting to
bully china once again before the "Big Meeting" at the G-20. Why would Trump
and his band of midget liberal trade poodles be taking turns at the media
with their hard line poodle yapping at China? Somebody is trying convince
you of something. What could that be? Don'... 阅读全帖
W*******n
发帖数: 4140
23
来自主题: WorldNews版 - Joke: Presidential Debate 2012, Act III
Joke: Presidential Debate 2012, Act III
10/22/2012
By Limin Wang
In the evening of October 16, 2012, at the Smack Complex of Hofstra
University on Long Island, New York, President Obama and former governor
Romney had the second finger-to-finger presidential debate. Candy Growly
tried her hardest to moderate them.
Outside the debate building, large swarms of people had decided on their own
to join the show. Some said that they wanted to bring their own tough
questions. Some said that they wanted ... 阅读全帖
W*******n
发帖数: 4140
24
来自主题: WorldNews版 - Joke: Presidential Debate 2012, Act III
Joke: Presidential Debate 2012, Act III
10/22/2012
By Limin Wang
In the evening of October 16, 2012, at the Smack Complex of Hofstra
University on Long Island, New York, President Obama and former governor
Romney had the second finger-to-finger presidential debate. Candy Growly
tried her hardest to moderate them.
Outside the debate building, large swarms of people had decided on their own
to join the show. Some said that they wanted to bring their own tough
questions. Some said that they wanted ... 阅读全帖
y***g
发帖数: 10422
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拿钱的呗。
现在是全球化,什么都可以outsource。码工都可以outsource去印度,车托为什么不能
outsource去中国?
o**********e
发帖数: 18403
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【 以下文字转载自 JobHunting 讨论区 】
发信人: onetiemyshoe (onetiemyshoe), 信区: JobHunting
标 题: 霸凌algorithm和反霸凌:职场必读 (转载)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Nov 1 10:26:41 2014, 美东)
发信人: onetiemyshoe (onetiemyshoe), 信区: Seattle
标 题: 霸凌algorithm和反霸凌:职场必读
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Nov 1 10:24:06 2014, 美东)
继Brahmin Tree algorithm
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/Seattle/33101521.html
以后,我再来总结一下霸凌algorithm.
首先霸凌algorithm:
柿子捡软的捏。然后捡稍软的捏。 最后收拾硬柿子。
估计那是硬柿子吓的硬不起来了。
就这么简单。 老中精英在IT职场几乎全军覆没
也是这样。
举例:
1. 最惨痛的教训是犹太人总结的:
“First they came …... 阅读全帖
r***k
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要读ms找工作当然是cs,统计工作都outsource到中国印度去了,cs工作虽然也
outsource,但已经outsource的差不多了,而且供给量很大,前景比统计好多了。
t*********8
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来自主题: JobHunting版 - ms contractor sdet
纯转发,我只能说Chinasoft是一个在微软非常大的contractor公司
We are looking for SDET with Chinese speaking skills for one of our clients
in Redmond, WA.
Responsibility:
• Designs and develops test plans and test cases for windows
components and applications
• Responsible for design, implementation and troubleshooting of
automation tools/frameworks
• Analyzes root causes for test failures and proposes solutions
• Enhances test reliability and effectiveness
• Identifies, re... 阅读全帖
o**********e
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谢谢!
我会这样驳斥:
1. American IT giants are nearly completely run over by Indian thief,
who steal credits, steal projects, steal jobs and discriminate against
American IT workers. Cisco, Vmware, qualcom have almost all Indian
engineers even in headquarters. IBM are majority Indian, Oracle,
Microsoft, Intel are nearly there.
The big companies have the cash hoard to buy Indian managers' buddies
startups. They all promote and hire Indians more than Americans. Now the
words in silicon valley says: ... 阅读全帖
o**********e
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来自主题: JobHunting版 - 微软裁员:职工应对方略
微软刚和infosys签下100M IT outsourcing 合同。
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tech/tech-news/Infosys-wins-
微软也外包给accenture, HCL, etc 。
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=vie
MUMBAI (Reuters) - HCL Technologies Ltd has bagged a five-year IT services
contract worth close to $170 million from software giant Microsoft Corp, the
Economic Times business daily reported on Monday.
A spokesman for the Indian software firm confirmed the deal but declined to
provide further details.
Unde... 阅读全帖
o**********e
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【 以下文字转载自 Seattle 讨论区 】
发信人: onetiemyshoe (onetiemyshoe), 信区: Seattle
标 题: 霸凌algorithm和反霸凌:职场必读
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Nov 1 10:24:06 2014, 美东)
继Brahmin Tree algorithm
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/Seattle/33101521.html
以后,我再来总结一下霸凌algorithm.
首先霸凌algorithm:
柿子捡软的捏。然后捡稍软的捏。 最后收拾硬柿子。
估计那是硬柿子吓的硬不起来了。
就这么简单。 老中精英在IT职场几乎全军覆没
也是这样。
举例:
1. 最惨痛的教训是犹太人总结的:
“First they came …” is a famous statement and provocative poem attributed
to pastor Martin Niemöller (1892–1984) about the cowardice of German
... 阅读全帖
L***s
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【 以下文字转载自 Immigration 讨论区 】
发信人: Leiss (徕司), 信区: Immigration
标 题: 挫败周二“一致同意”的紧急行动指南!9/23最新
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Sep 22 21:39:33 2019, 美东)
http://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/X8VGqSL1yizmoTJX3SLZgw
要怎么做才能再次挫败周二的UC?简而言之,关注两个页面:
打电话重点议员(拷贝链接粘贴到浏览器):
http://wp.me/pb91eZ-2M
Tier 1:
David Perdue(只要他还没有正式表态,就要继续争取),
Chuck Grassley,
Josh Hawley,
Marsha Blackburn,
Tim Scott,
Sherrod Brown,
Dick Durbin
Tier 2:
Mitch McConnell,
Chuck Schumer
Tier 3:
Elizabeth Warren,
Bernie Sanders,
Patrick Leahy,
Ted Cruz,
Deb Fish... 阅读全帖
M*****8
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December 9, 2010
Day Trading Still Alive, Outsourced to China
By DAVID BARBOZA
¶ BEIJING — Before the opening bell sounded on the New York Stock
Exchange on a recent Tuesday, a group of fresh college graduates clocked in
at a small trading firm on the outskirts of this capital city.
¶ They were hired to engage in rapid-fire stock trading with some of
the world’s most powerful investment houses in New York, London and Tokyo,
and they were instructed to be alert.
¶ “The market could... 阅读全帖
a***s
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来自主题: Stock版 - 还在下降通道中
job要资本家和政府create.
政府cut budget -> 裁员。
资本家-〉自己赚钱更重要 -〉继续outsource, 直到outsource的margin完全消除。目
前outsource还是有利可图。
obama能够呼吁的只有爱国,在中国韩国喊爱国有傻瓜跟,在美国不灵。
s*****s
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这两天在美国境内申请去印度的签证,发现阿三的签证申请整个明目张胆地外包给了一
个叫tra visa outsourcing的公司,连公司名字都不带任何掩饰的,就是outsourcing.
这个公司收费还狂高,手续费几十美刀。
在中国申请赴美签证,也就是电话预约给外包了,跟这个outsourcing比起来,还是小
巫见大巫了。
c**g
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来自主题: Working版 - Re: A Boiled Frog
outsource自然和技术的难易有些关系,但如果以为技术是决定性因素,那只能说
你确实比较too young, too simple. 拿你朋友的例子,你朋友搞的东西印度人
搞了20年没搞出了,那是因为你朋友天生丽质与众不同么?-- 我估计不是,要那
样也不至于只在波音搞个软件 -- 不是说在波音搞软件不牛,很牛不过应该没牛到
别人搞20年不灵的程度。一个东西,能不能搞出来,难度是一方面,但更重要的其它非技
术性的东西,比如环境,比如成本,比如国家安全考虑。举个最简单的
例子,保姆这一行目前看是没办法outsource出去,这是不是因为这行的技术含
量高么?显然不是。在比如军方的项目,就算是个人就能做的,也没法outsource
因为安全等等考虑。下次再拿飞行控制砸人前多想想,当然我也
需要到google大学补补课,看看这个印度人20年做不出来的究竟是啥神奇技术。
a***s
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今年大选年,obama攻击rommey的一条就是outsourcing。所以反outsourcing其实很热
。你朋友这事可以从outsourcing的产业链对美国公司的危害着手,说不定有记者感兴
趣。
a***s
发帖数: 1084
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今年大选年,obama攻击rommey的一条就是outsourcing。所以反outsourcing其实很热
。你朋友这事可以从outsourcing的产业链对美国公司的危害着手,说不定有记者感兴
趣。
L***s
发帖数: 1148
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http://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/X8VGqSL1yizmoTJX3SLZgw
要怎么做才能再次挫败周二的UC?简而言之,关注两个页面:
打电话重点议员(拷贝链接粘贴到浏览器):
http://wp.me/pb91eZ-2M
Tier 1:
David Perdue(只要他还没有正式表态,就要继续争取),
Chuck Grassley,
Josh Hawley,
Marsha Blackburn,
Tim Scott,
Sherrod Brown,
Dick Durbin
Tier 2:
Mitch McConnell,
Chuck Schumer
Tier 3:
Elizabeth Warren,
Bernie Sanders,
Patrick Leahy,
Ted Cruz,
Deb Fisher,
Dianne Feinstein,
Marco Rubio,
Cindy Hyde-Smith,
Ben Cardin,
Chris Van Hollen
Tier 4: 所有剩下Judiciary Committee members
如果有可能,其他的non-cos... 阅读全帖
R********r
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来自主题: EB23版 - Green-card blues ZZ from Economist
Green-card blues
A backlash against foreign workers dims business hopes for immigration
reform
Oct 28th 2010 | Washington, dc
BAD as relations are between business and the Democrats, immigration was
supposed to be an exception. On that topic the two have long had a marriage
of convenience, with business backing comprehensive reform in order to
obtain more skilled foreign workers.
That, at least, was what was meant to happen. In March Chuck Schumer, a
Democratic senator, and Lindsey Graham, a Rep... 阅读全帖
H******i
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We're legal employment-based immigration petitioners. We have been decided by very strict USCIS processes as not being competing with American citizens for job opportunities. Rather, we're working in positions that either American citizens don't want to work or there're not sufficient American citizens to fill up these positions. We're working in U.S. so that our employers don't have to outsource these jobs overseas. If we don't fill up these positions in U.S. with our experience and skills, ... 阅读全帖
k********o
发帖数: 1139
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good point!

decided by very strict USCIS processes as not being competing with American
citizens for job opportunities. Rather, we're working in positions that
either American citizens don't want to work or there're not sufficient
American citizens to fill up these positions. We're working in U.S. so that
our employers don't have to outsource these jobs overseas. If we don't fill
up these positions in U.S. with our experience and skills,: not only these
jobs could have been permanently outso... 阅读全帖
L***s
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【 以下文字转载自 Immigration 讨论区 】
发信人: Leiss (徕司), 信区: Immigration
标 题: 挫败周二“一致同意”的紧急行动指南!9/23最新
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Sep 22 21:39:33 2019, 美东)
http://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/X8VGqSL1yizmoTJX3SLZgw
要怎么做才能再次挫败周二的UC?简而言之,关注两个页面:
打电话重点议员(拷贝链接粘贴到浏览器):
http://wp.me/pb91eZ-2M
Tier 1:
David Perdue(只要他还没有正式表态,就要继续争取),
Chuck Grassley,
Josh Hawley,
Marsha Blackburn,
Tim Scott,
Sherrod Brown,
Dick Durbin
Tier 2:
Mitch McConnell,
Chuck Schumer
Tier 3:
Elizabeth Warren,
Bernie Sanders,
Patrick Leahy,
Ted Cruz,
Deb Fish... 阅读全帖
W*******n
发帖数: 4140
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来自主题: Chinese版 - Joke: Presidential Debate 2012, Act III
Joke: Presidential Debate 2012, Act III
10/22/2012
By Limin Wang
In the evening of October 16, 2012, at the Smack Complex of Hofstra
University on Long Island, New York, President Obama and former governor
Romney had the second finger-to-finger presidential debate. Candy Growly
tried her hardest to moderate them.
Outside the debate building, large swarms of people had decided on their own
to join the show. Some said that they wanted to bring their own tough
questions. Some said that they wanted ... 阅读全帖
o**********e
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【 以下文字转载自 JobHunting 讨论区 】
发信人: onetiemyshoe (onetiemyshoe), 信区: JobHunting
标 题: 霸凌algorithm和反霸凌:职场必读 (转载)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Nov 1 10:26:41 2014, 美东)
发信人: onetiemyshoe (onetiemyshoe), 信区: Seattle
标 题: 霸凌algorithm和反霸凌:职场必读
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Nov 1 10:24:06 2014, 美东)
继Brahmin Tree algorithm
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/Seattle/33101521.html
以后,我再来总结一下霸凌algorithm.
首先霸凌algorithm:
柿子捡软的捏。然后捡稍软的捏。 最后收拾硬柿子。
估计那是硬柿子吓的硬不起来了。
就这么简单。 老中精英在IT职场几乎全军覆没
也是这样。
举例:
1. 最惨痛的教训是犹太人总结的:
“First they came …... 阅读全帖
M*****8
发帖数: 17722
46
【 以下文字转载自 Stock 讨论区 】
发信人: MB80528 (肥猫(Contrarian)[食MM而肥]), 信区: Stock
标 题: 米加金融公司外包国内大学毕业生做当日交易的抄盘手。
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Dec 9 22:25:51 2010, 美东)
December 9, 2010
Day Trading Still Alive, Outsourced to China
By DAVID BARBOZA
¶ BEIJING — Before the opening bell sounded on the New York Stock
Exchange on a recent Tuesday, a group of fresh college graduates clocked in
at a small trading firm on the outskirts of this capital city.
¶ They were hired to engage in rapid-fire stock trading wi... 阅读全帖
T8
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来自主题: SanFrancisco版 - 我今年40岁了 (转载)
"我第一是坚决反对自由贸易,支持提高关税。因为美国的优势产品是必须品"
LZ错了,美国的优势产品是高科技,中国的优势产品才是必须品。
另外,outsourcing和自由贸易啥的没太大关系。主要是劳动力成本。
要想减少outsourcing,有三个办法:
1. 提高外国的劳动力成本。这个不是美国说了算,所以排除
2. 降低美国本国劳动力成本,也就是说所有企业大幅减薪,向发展中国家看齐。楼主
愿意吗?你肯定会说No吧。
3. 降低美元对外汇率。这个是政府正在花大力气做的。但是没用,为啥呢?因为中国
人多,美国人少,中国人勤奋,美国人懒。假设将来某一天一刀等于1元了。同样一碗
饭,中国人说一毛钱就成交了,在美国还是得50美分。
偶以为最终减少outsourcing的还是要靠1.等外国工资水准和美国差不多时。其实中国
已经快了。
o**********e
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来自主题: SanFrancisco版 - 聚焦: 烙印美男国会竞选人Ro Khanna
http://www.ibabuzz.com/politics/2014/05/01/ca17-honda-khanna-sp
“Khanna also supports lowering taxes on corporations’ overseas profits,
which means more outsourcing of American jobs,” Honda said on his site,
citing a Mercury News article. “Khanna supports the same failed
Republican policies that hurt our economy in the first place and puts
corporations and the wealthy ahead of the middle class.”
Ro Khanna fail to reply to the key charges of "outsourcing of American
jobs". Because his whole stra... 阅读全帖
o**********e
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来自主题: SanFrancisco版 - SD10, Peter Kuo11月GE展望
Well Honda is right.
Ro does want to ship jobs outside
America. By carping on China and Japan's
manufacturing, he is a trojan horse
attempt of the Indian outsourcing industry
to distract from the real issue
of massive white-collar job outsourcing
to India.
Ro receives a lot of tech elites support
for his support of tech outsourcing
and tech H1b abuse by Indian contractors.
In conclusion, Ro is very prettily dressed
trojan horse. but Honda is no fool.

jobs
s******e
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来自主题: SanFrancisco版 - RO 和 Honda 之比较。
烙印现在公民还不多,等到烙印多为公民的时候,估计会有很多人当选。那时他们
会更
强大。
但是现在他们还没有那么多选票,所以他现在积极骗华人选票。他会给华人带来什么的
好处,很多人支持他的理由是高科技,这是对所有人的。但是他可以特别帮助烙印更多
人进来,更多烙印拿绿卡,更多outsourcing,很多美籍公民要因此失掉工作,他能特别
为华人做什么?
很多人不支持Honda 的理由是工会,可是你选了一个ro 上去,对工会也遏制不了什么
。但hongda可以打击outsourcing.
某华人说华人应该联合烙印,可是烙印政客有提出烙印要联合华人了吗?
这是不是某些人一厢情愿的吧。我不会像某些人那样认为非此即彼,非黑即白。
To sum,
就是说如果ro 选上,美国人民要受工会和outsourcing 两座大山压迫,而选Honda ,被
一座大山压迫,所以就是两个人当中选一个less evil 的,哪一个会有一个minimum
worse effects ,一目了然。honda 选区,没什么日本人,他必须please 其他族裔.
总之最后,建议选Ro的竟然不是IT 民工,当然如果你是以后要有求... 阅读全帖
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