m*c
发帖数: 9 | 1
That depends on what you want to do. If you want to became a scientist in
life science, to come to USA is of your choice; but if you want to be a
doctor
I don't think there are many chances here. Even if you get the board. you
still find it difficult to find a good job. As I know most surgeons here now
work
as anethesist and most internalist now work as pathologist. Want to take
your
old profession again? No way.
Things get worse recently since the policy in China is that when you leave
the
med |
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i****h
发帖数: 71 | 3 Thank you! But is there a way to get clinical experience before taking the
board in US? volunteer in the hospital or something? And do you think that
will help?
thanks again, :)
and
know |
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m*********1
发帖数: 14 | 4 可以考虑一下medical tech，有做b超，x-ray照相，或者病理切片等等
工作比较稳定，而且工资还可以，pathologist tech可以到7-8万。 |
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m*********1
发帖数: 14 | 5 可以考虑一下medical tech，有做b超，x-ray照相，或者病理切片等等
工作比较稳定，而且工资还可以，pathologist tech可以到7-8万。 |
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m********e
发帖数: 127 | 6 sorry, i don't have chinese input now.
i think linguistics is very interesting, especially when linguistics is comb
ined with other disciplines.
It's really easy for people who study linguistics to go study speech patholo
gy.
normally, you would find speech pathology in department like, speecn and hea
ring, or communication disorders, stuff like that.
since every states dictates that all schools should be equipped with speech
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f*********e
发帖数: 308 | 7 想请问一下版上是否有学 Speech-Language pathology 这个专业的？有听说过 Multi-
speech这种专业软件？请问怎么才能买到这个专业软件？ 据说只有 Speech-Language
pathologist 才会用到这个软件。谢谢。 |
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l******u
发帖数: 936 | 8 你想象一下, 建立一个庞大的tissue bank 的硬件投资[n多超低温冰箱], 软件投资
[一套SAP性质的管理系统],其实是非常贵的, 还要有一堆pathologist 给这些样本做
病理诊断和备案, 如果让医学院还没人做translational research 的时候, 就开始
投N多钱, 没产出, 根本没人会去做.在中国,人死了,很多都找不到, 做follow up 很
多时候非常困难.
北医等一线研究单位的tissue bank 如果共享了, 完全足够目前国内做translational
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l*h
发帖数: 4124 | 9 PhD-trained clinical laboratory director may be a good option. It is much higher than a medical technologist. In our system, the salary is in the same pay grade as a basic science assistant professor. Typically if you establish some lucrative new tests for the hospital, you get a huge bonus, otherwise there is not much to expect beyond your regular pay.
In hospitals, the central laboratory is usually directed by a pathologist (MD) subspecialized in laboratory medicine and PhD-trained clinical la... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 4845 | 10 Pathologist这活确实不错，真正是钱多活少啊，呵呵
info |
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发帖数: 2136 | 11 Jeffry John Aufderheide
vactruth.com
05/25/2010
http://vactruth.com/2010/05/25/vaccines-rockefeller-social-control/
PART I.
History books proclaim with absolute certainty that the pinnacle of public
health is defined by the polio vaccine program. Disease finally conquered by
science. The polio effort was a benchmark for the public to mentally accept
the concept “shots prevent disease.” However, hidden to most Americans
was an elaborate Public Relations scheme being carefully applied by
Rockefell... 阅读全帖 |
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c****l
发帖数: 1086 | 12 这个fellowship programs出来后有board certified license嘛，能和pathologist 一
样行医吗？ |
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l*h
发帖数: 4124 | 13 别光网上查，网上分不出pathologists with subspecialty和PhD来的。 |
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l******u
发帖数: 936 | 14 如果你说到疾病，从clinical的意义上说，可以看这些Pathway/Network 一些重要基因对
这个疾病的 prognosis 的意义如何，这个在临床上的指导意义非常重要。
我曾经跟Zurich一个Pathologist 谈到现在 GWAS 在临床上的应用的指导
意义的时候，也问过类似的问题。他们说这些 GWAS 晒到的prognosis marker
对他们的工作有很大的指导意义。 而而Pathway/Network 本身成了paper需要的故事的
素材
个人觉得， IPA 不能帮你发现什么真正新的pathway， IPA的意义在于它集成了很多
前人研究的一些基因/蛋白的关系（有科学文献记载），而便于你研究这些相互关系网
络。我的理解可能还比较粗浅，bioinfor的高人可以再来补充。
我刚从human genomics的lab转到了mouse Lab， 发现做function study的人对pathway的
理解跟做genomics的人非常不一样。 |
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U******u
发帖数: 5829 | 15 简介病理医生助理(PA)--写给对PA职业感兴趣的大龄CMG
http://www.mitbbs.com/pc/pccon_2289_164181.html
作者：USMedEdu
发表时间：2011-04-01
更新时间：2011-04-04
浏览：281次
见到有人还没进门，先考虑进去后多辛苦和出来后多艰难，让俺想起一位邻居--就是
那个在白宫外面告喊口号捣乱胡CORE访问美国的那个CMG住院，她本是某大师的堂口
和分舵把手，可她老公坚决不让自己儿子练那超宇宙功夫，他很有道理地说：万一
他没练到家，穿墙时，卡到那里怎么办？？？？呵呵。。。。。。
他家跟俺家曾楼上楼下，两家儿子是一个班的，跟她家邻居一段，趣事无穷啊。。。。。
等老刀实在闲得手痒，找不着人下刀子时，就再来切切她那一家子两口。
这里既然有人犹豫考版当医生的辛苦，俺老刀就当一次“劝退”的洪常青，给指
个光明“钱”途给那些想轻松挣钱又没医生的辛苦的职业。。。。。。
等这两周忙完教学，再写下集。。。。。。。
各位就耐心等着，反正你们不考版的有得是时间等。。。。。。。
简介病理医生助理(PA)--写给对PA职业感兴趣的大龄CMG... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 430 | 16 Position 1
The USDA-Agricultural Research Service, Soybean Genomics and Improvement
Laboratory in Beltsville, Maryland, is seeking a POSTDOCTORAL RESEARCH
ASSOCIATE for a TWO YEAR APPOINTMENT. Ph.D. is required. Salary is
commensurate with experience (GS-11+locality adjustment and benefits).
Citizenship restrictions apply http://www.afm.ars.usda.gov/hrd/jobs/visa/countries.htm. Veteran preferences apply. USDA/ARS is an equal opportunity provider and employer. The incumbent will use synth... 阅读全帖 |
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c******r
发帖数: 3778 | 18 还是做点immunohistochemistry吧，能看见的东西比较有说服力哈
当然功能性实验也很重要。
flow确实很好，很方便很快。但是不够直观。对很多pathologist来说还是看见才放心
啊。 |
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a**********2
发帖数: 3726 | 19 In medicine, for diagnosis purpose, several markers can be used to
differentiate mesenchymal tumors from epithelial tumors by
immunohistochemistry. Vimentin is one of them, I forgot other markers (
pathologists may know more). |
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l**********1
发帖数: 5204 | 20 Clinical Laboratory Science:
the American Society of Clinical Pathologists (ASCP) Board of Certification
http://extension.ucsd.edu/programs/index.cfm?vAction=certDetail
Histotechnician
(ASCP) BOC Histotechnician certification:
Http: //www.ascp.org/pdf/ProceduresforExaminationCertification.aspx
>
>> |
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k**l
发帖数: 2966 | 21 帮朋友问的,不知道这个版对不对,还是
应该发到什云帛?,多谢
if a breast cancer tumor sample has been in 10% neutral buffered formalin
for 2-5 hours (certainly less than 6) and then embedded in paraffin for 10+
days, is there anyway to rescue the sample in order to produce accurate FISH
test--as FISH test requires 6 to 48 hours fixation time in 10% neutral
buffered formalin?
a pathologist suggested that he dissolve the paraffin and then put the
samp... 阅读全帖 |
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s********n
发帖数: 2939 | 22 现在这种例子越来越多了
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/05/health/in-first-quick-dna-tes
In a First, Test of DNA Finds Root of Illness
Joshua Osborn, 14, lay in a coma at American Family Children’s Hospital in
Madison, Wis. For weeks his brain had been swelling with fluid, and a
battery of tests had failed to reveal the cause.
The doctors told his parents, Clark and Julie, that they wanted to run one
more test with an experimental new technology. Scientists would search
Joshua’s cerebrospinal fluid for piece... 阅读全帖 |
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m***T
发帖数: 11058 | 23 美国的临床实验室只有20-30%属于这类大型的research hospital, medical center的
，绝大多数还是community based的中小型医院或labs，绝大多数的大夫甚至
pathologist对于NGS和Microarry的技术了解非常有限，更别说如何分析和解释数据了
。而且数据的分析也还处于比较快的发展中，这对于广泛的临床应用都是很大的挑战。
FDA也刚刚开始对microarray和NGS等新技术开绿灯没几年，这些都需要一个相对较长的
过程才能真正将这些新技术推入临床并成为诊断标准。 |
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a********k
发帖数: 2273 | 24 轮不到你做尸检，那是pathologist和PA的事情。你就在实验室做仪器分析的东西。 |
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T*G
发帖数: 600 | 25 收入和一般pathologist 或是 内科医生差别大嘛？life style还好，不用和难缠的美
国病人打交道，收入秒杀PI， over50职业稳定性秒杀马工， 还不用出钱上美国医院，
有比这更划算的嘛 |
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发帖数: 1 | 26 当医生，做医学研究要同pathologist保持密切关系。 |
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W*T
发帖数: 359 | 27 clinical pathologists 认为他们在临床上没有看到这个明显的EMT特征。 但是不能否
认EMT是不是在一些tumor cells中还是存在。
在in intro culture的环境里，EMT的特性会被放大，在breast tissue里，EMT的特征
可能不如在dish里明显。 在breast cancer里，至少Triple negative的BREAST
cancers 是有明显的EMT特性的。 暴跳如雷也不能说明什么问题啊。 |
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t**********t
发帖数: 141 | 28 是的, 我感觉是这样. 不是临床医生不懂, molecular pathologist大部分是md/phd,
但病理报告目前还很少是用NGS做的,
illumina是在push临床采用NGS, 但阻力重重, 我看5年内在community hospital是见不
到NGS, 在大的medical center能用上就已经很好了,
我还是觉的NGS没有什么创新性呀, 就是速度快, 可以产生很多的ATGC出来, 然后需要
很多的bioinformatician去试图interpret, 分析出来的结果有用没用是另外一回事.
纯科研来说, coding sequence目前大部分已经知道, 主要就是non-coding sequence,
当然non-coding sequence占决大多数, 但interpret non-coding sequence并不是单纯
的有越多的ATGC的数据就能怎样的
所以我总觉的NGS是不是吹过头了 |
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m***T
发帖数: 11058 | 29 宣传会是不能太相信的，一般这咱会上讲的多是sales或marketing的。
看到你是oncologist，失敬。其实我现在的工作就是经常和oncologist还有
pathologist打交道的，当然主要是和大的genome center里的。我对你提到的oncotype
技术不太了解，简单google了一下，似乎是用rt-pcr技术做gene panel的。不谈别的，
仅从成本上来讲，我从wiki上看到的是oncotype的成本大概要4000-5000美圆，是不是
current你应该更清楚。同样的panel在ngs上只要几百就够了，差距还是很大的，而且
ngs成本还在不断下降。另外ngs非常容易scale up，这点相信是oncotype做不到的。现
在能进入临床上的基本上是gene panel和whole exome，全基因组进临床还需要时间， |
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t**********t
发帖数: 141 | 30 that's not entirely true.
medical genetics MOSTLY does not interpret pathological tissue, they simply
don't
have access to the pathological tissue specimen.
tumor (both solid and blood-borne) genetics are NORMALLY interpreted by the
molecular
pathologist within the pathology department.
guidelines |
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t**********t
发帖数: 141 | 31 LOL! Of course anatomic pathologists do not follow ACMG guideline, why
should them? On the other hand, the medical geneticists do not have the
capacity to interpret tumor specimen either, they are not trained to do so.
tumor |
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t**********t
发帖数: 141 | 32 not at my institution,
the MDx lab in my institution is run by ap/cp pathologists, not a single
medical genetist.
especially |
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h*******n
发帖数: 59 | 33 ASCP (American Society Of Clinical Pathologists) |
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a*****g
发帖数: 19398 | 34 With more state money available to reduce class sizes, school districts in
California are using incentives such as bonuses and housing subsidies to
recruit teachers. Schools have hired 7,700 teachers over the past two years
who have only temporary permits, waivers or intern credentials, data show.
BY DIANA LAMBERT
[email protected]
/* */
A growing teacher shortage has California school districts offering
subsidized housing and signing bonuses in an effort to woo potential
recruits.
The hir... 阅读全帖 |
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f********s
发帖数: 25 | 35 只是亲身经历请教一下，你花这么多时间大力气来抨击又是何苦呢。
按你的说法真是世界上所有人都可以当pathologist，随便就把癌症检查成良性，随便
耽误病人治疗，反正世界上谁也没办法证明内布拉斯加某个小城的医生都能看出来。
offer
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d**********e
发帖数: 72 | 37 I talked about my clinical pathology observationship in my internal medicine
interviews a couple of times. A good doctor in medicine should know the
value of attending clinical pathology conference. It usually includes intial
introduction of history and patient clinical course during the hospital
stay, the clinician's presentation, the radiologist's presentation, the
pathologist's presentation, and the answer.
Pathology lets you discover inside of a human being; just like psychiatry
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e*****8
发帖数: 19 | 38 在麦地长期潜水，吸取了很多的宝贵经验。现在把我有限的一点经验写出来，以回报麦
地大家庭。今年申请的朋友们比去年安静很多，希望我的帖子能抛砖引玉。
我的基本情况：
04年本科毕业，现在不太有名的学校读PHD最后一年，专业是神经科学。Step1 99,
step 2 CS passed, STEP2 CK 90， EAD. 有两个月病理的OBSERVERSHIP。两封推荐信
来自PHD，一个来自US PATHOLOGIST（面试时很多人都提过我有很好的推荐信）。尚无
第一作者PAPER，有不少会议POSTER， ORAL PRESENTATION。我只申请了病理。至12月
底面试了6家，拿到3个PREMATCH OFFER，最后决定接收其中的一个。已取消和将要取消
的面试有：WashU, Loyola University, Indiana University, long island jewish
medical center, wayne state university, Toledo university, temple university.
我的usmle成绩并不理想，考经 |
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p******6
发帖数: 410 | 39 想请问一下，两个星期的observership，跟一个在private practice group的
pathologist手下，有可能拿到推荐信，对于
申请住院医，包括大学的program,有没有太大帮助。这里面有一个取舍问题，我还有一
个机会去大学的program做两个星
期的observership,但是很有可能拿不到正式的推荐信，因为被告知是他们的policy.这
两个相比较哪一个更有用呢？ |
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p******e
发帖数: 12 | 40 Communication and Documentation - always keep these two things in mind.
I feel this case is especially interesting and alarming for diagnosticians
like pathologists and radiologists. |
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s*******w
发帖数: 1879 | 41 难为两位还惦记着。谢谢。
也正好，这里爹妈看不到，当树洞让我来哭一会儿。
到今天，正是投出第一份简历开始，找薄厚已经一个月了。没有消息的没有消息，被据
的被据，找老板就推说忙，不然就只知道找我催thesis，博客不敢写爸妈看着呢，根本
不敢跟家里打电话怕说打电话打着打着会哭起来，熬夜晚了msn都只能隐身，朋友看到
都问，你怎么还不睡，我说投简历呢。有时候半夜看着招工广告上的关键词都不知道要
怎么办，一边改cover letter一边眼泪就不停的掉，编得跟别人的方向像一点都不会。
还不敢大声哭，怕吓倒我室友，在实验室大家也会说，你要求不要那么高么。我想说，
我只是想找一个实验室做实验排绿卡而已，要求很高麽。
作生物，别人问老鼠会杀麽，不会，rna会做么，不会，投出去的简历要么就石沉大海
，要么洋洋洒洒几百字回来就两句话，i don't have a position and bye。方向太小
，做的东西太杂，老板一个project拆成n份给人做，跑western的只跑western，pcr的
只pcr，合成的只合成，mass的只mass。好容易看到一个方向好歹沾边的，一封信过去
，对方也... 阅读全帖 |
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u**u
发帖数: 2 | 42 对美国的临床病理医生的分类不是太清楚，是不是有的检验医生也是属于病理医生？也
需要考Board？Clinical Chemistry属于Clinical Pathologist吗？先谢了。 |
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A**A
发帖数: 224 | 43 对美国的临床病理医生的分类不是太清楚，是不是有的检验医生也是属于病理医生？
是。属于CP(Clinical Pathology).
也需要考Board？
是。可申请CP only或AP/CP住院医生。但clinical chemistry 和microbiology很多由
PhD负责，不需考Board.
Clinical Chemistry属于Clinical Pathologist吗？
是。 |
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s***1
发帖数: 5 | 44 我知道多数医院的CP是由pathologist同时cover的,即主要工作是AP,CP的不同
department, 如chemistry,microbiology等都有supervisor,这些职位只要是clinical
laboratory scientist或者说medical techonologist有一定经验,考个specialist就可
以做这个职位.你指的第2点中Ph.D经过fellowship training后,是做这个职位吗?如果
是, 哪里可以找到这种fellowship啊?如果不需要考CP的board,那么需要考个比如
chemistry,microbiology,blood bank 这类的specialist吗?
谢谢 |
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s***1
发帖数: 5 | 45 我知道多数医院的CP是由pathologist同时cover的,即主要工作是AP,CP的不同
department, 如chemistry,microbiology等都有supervisor,这些职位只要是clinical
laboratory scientist或者说medical techonologist有一定经验,考个specialist就可
以做这个职位.你指的第2点中Ph.D经过fellowship training后,是做这个职位吗?如果
是, 哪里可以找到这种fellowship啊?如果不需要考CP的board,那么需要考个比如
chemistry,microbiology,blood bank 这类的specialist吗?
谢谢 |
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U******u
发帖数: 5829 | 46 u don't need stress you want or favor ped path in residency IV, unless you
investigated and know a given interviewer is this specialty, then u better "
tao4 ci2" w/ him/her to stress u like peds path.
actually, u mentioned not accurate, it's true peds path is very narrow and
limited job market, but also very few fellows graduate yearly, and many even
big hospital lack ped pathologists to handle those ped cases. so if u had
ped path fellowship, u still can focus your ped major, as well as handle |
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y*****t
发帖数: 264 | 47 OK, just follow your suggestion. Totally 150 , still in budget.
Yes, I do have a lot of things to do. One of the pathologist attending want
me to draft LOR myself. Is there any service that can modify the LOR?
Headache. |
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e*****a
发帖数: 1334 | 48 You may assign different LORs to different programs. For pathology, you may
include the pathologist's letter. |
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p******6
发帖数: 410 | 49 握个手，这两天做病理的Observership,看一会儿片子带我的pathologist就会给我讲解
还有做dictation,我一听就开始犯困，有时候要用手指把眼皮扒开，真想狠狠给自己两
个嘴巴，只好不停的借口上厕所用凉水冲脸。真是没救了，正在反省中。 |
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p******6
发帖数: 410 | 50 因为种种原因，不能去自己原来想去的大医学中心，就在本地附近的一个规模较大的医
院里通过认识的教授找了一位pathologist.Schedule是每周三个下午或者一个上午两个
下午。
这个城市规模中上等，但是没有医学院，也没有病理的住院医program,.这是我一开始
有点不大情愿的原因，觉得水平很难说，对申请的帮助有多大也不知道。带着不安的心
理到了医院后，找了很长时间才找到病理科，却连一块牌匾都没有，只是标着medical
service,和ICU病房挤在一起，心里就更不舒服了。见到了那位医生，他看起来也有点
紧张，一个劲跟我说其实他也没带过见习的，不知道具体该怎么弄，但是如果能把
grossing, frozen section, slides preparation, immuno-lab, clinical chemistry
and sign-out都过一下应该足够可以了。但是，人真的又nice又认真，不停的带着我
介绍给这个介绍给那个，然后让我先在grossing room里学习一下。里面有5个PA,都是
年轻的帅哥和美女，大家都很happy的样子，各个都乐意教我，可惜不 |
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