x******g
发帖数: 498 | 1 最近收到2个面试过的program发信来建议rank他们的preliminary position，我申请的
都是categorical，面试时也没有特别的关于preliminary的话题。他们来信说“my
sending you this email DOES NOT IMPLY that your application is not
competitive，I am merely sending this email to provide an awareness of the
preliminary route as a backup”，然后说了一下preliminary的好处，并且要求我在
ERAS里面加上preliminary的申请，同时告知他们我对preliminary感兴趣。请各位前辈
帮忙看下，如果现在告知program我对preliminary感兴趣，会不会失去被rank到
categorical的机会？从来没有遇到这种情况，请大家不吝赐教，多谢！ |
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C**R
发帖数: 504 | 2 第一次写grant proposal，想基于我之前的一个method的，进一步upgrade method，并
且应用到disease上。
我之前的method已发表。但是，我想做的method upgrade和应用都没有preliminary
result。
我准备用之前的method做preliminary result，这样够吗？
写grant必须有preliminary result吗？这个preliminary 如何掌握？ |
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t********9
发帖数: 536 | 3 我目前在写一个R01，在Preliminary Data 部分，准备写4小部分。第一部分是自己（
First Author）已发表在Science中的数据，前老板是Senior Author； 第二部分是前
实验室其他人发表在Nature上的数据，前老板是Senior Author， 没有我的名字；第三
和第四部分是自己当PI后，我的实验室里的未发表的数据。 这四部分非常相关，如果
去掉第二部分，就会让Reviewer觉得不完整。
我还在前老板实验室做博后写F32的时候，倒是引用了那片Nature的数据作我的
Preliminary Data， 但那时我还在那个实验室，倒是没有什么问题。
现在我独立了，虽然我来自前老板实验室，我还可以再用别人的数据作Preliminary
Data吗？我估计要用那篇文章的3个小图，不知道注明出处够不？
多谢。 |
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f*******e
发帖数: 3433 | 4 【 以下文字转载自 Parenting 讨论区 】
发信人: flyingpie (pie), 信区: Parenting
标 题: CDC releases preliminary findings on Palo Alto suicide clusters
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Aug 16 21:53:31 2017, 美东)
In light of the recent suicides of several Palo Alto teens, the Center for
Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) began an epidemiological study in
February 2016 that investigated previous youth suicide clusters. Last week,
the CDC released preliminary findings of their study, which revealed that
mental health problems, re... 阅读全帖 |
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w********r
发帖数: 1431 | 5 发现有一类postdoc fellowship很明白的写着，需要有preliminary data。
第二类或者明确的说不需要preliminary data，或者没说需要也没说不需要。
对于第二类，如果放一些preliminary data对申请会更有帮助么？还是无所谓？
谢谢啦！ |
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x*******9
发帖数: 200 | 6 各位大侠，我有些问题请教：
1. 请问如何申请preliminary position?是通过my erase?我可以同时申请categerial,
preliminary and internal medicine?
2.我想做外科，但不确定结果，所以想同时申请preliminary and internal medicine?
那条路会容易转到外科去？
请大侠们给予建议。多谢谢！！！ |
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x*******9
发帖数: 200 | 7 Recently, when I look for prorgram. I found that some programs say
categorical but no preliminary in my erase, but I take a look at AMA, their
general information say offer preliminary.I am confused about it. I want to
chose categorical and preliminary in my erase. What should I do? Thank you
guys. |
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L********8
发帖数: 248 | 8 收到若干xdjm的email和电话，喜忧参半的告诉我，他们将进入Preliminary surgery。
现将自己preliminary surgery 经历的点滴与这些同学分享。
Preliminary surgery 是条曲折的路，是没有搭上到山顶的直通车的后备选择，但如果
把握好，一样可以最终引上大路，到达目的地。
我开始prelim前，听到的都是关于prelim surgery 魔鬼训练的描述：早晨4点多起床，
查房时昏昏欲睡，每天只能睡4-5小时……现在回首我的prelim surgery一年：劳累，
但却从容。除非on call，我基本保证每天睡8小时，并长了10磅体重。
Prelim surgery的疲劳来自3方面：日常工作的劳动强度、陌生医疗体系带来的精神压
力，和应对第二次match的心理压力。
Prelim surgery劳动强度比其他专业要大，但不像传说的那么离谱，尤其现在有80h/
week的duty hour限制，我们比老师辈的人好多了。劳动强度在不同program不尽相同，同一
program不同的轮转医院或科室也不一样。牛校和大的program劳动强度更大 |
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F**********1
发帖数: 96 | 9 I am going to focus on the applications to Internal Medicine Categorical,
but will also apply to some PMR programs. But PMR programs are advanced and
require Internal Medicine Preliminary. So can I apply to both categorical
and preliminary in the same program? Will the PD think I am not commitment
to Internal Medicine?
Another question is whether ERAS will charge me as TWO applications if I
check both Preliminary and Categorical?
Thanks a lot in advance! |
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e*****a
发帖数: 1334 | 10
but will also apply to some PMR programs. But PMR programs are advanced and
require Internal Medicine Preliminary. So can I apply to both categorical
and preliminary in the same program? Will the PD think I am not commitment
to Internal Medicine?
- It's somehow hard to convince the PDs.
check both Preliminary and Categorical?
- It charges once if both are under the same program. |
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s**********1
发帖数: 68 | 11 Let me refine my question:
If I want to apply for Dermatology, but I want to use IM as back-up, what's
the best strategy? You know Dermatology require preliminary IM. Should I
apply to Dermatology and category IM, and forget about preliminary IM? Or
should I apply to Dermatology, preliminary IM in the same place, but apply
to category IM in a different place?
Thanks! |
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d*******z
发帖数: 2 | 12 目前只有一个可能的麻醉邀请。PD主动打电话，但PD问我有没有preliminary 面试，我
坦诚相告没有。 PD就犹豫了。虽然他对我有research 背景感兴趣，但不愿offer 我
categorical。理由，毕业太久〉10年。他现在让我办externship, 说考虑2013年
enroll me. 这点最让我迷惑，明年意味着毕业时间更久，他是想通过externship观察
我, 然后再决定能不能帮我找个preliminary？他是真对我有兴趣，还是在婉转的拒绝
我？
目前抱着死马当活马医的心态，在办externship。 但希望得到高人的指导，如何能找
到preliminary？如果今年能成最好。
请大家帮忙出个主意吧。
多谢！ |
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a******a
发帖数: 146 | 13 申请ADVANCED specialty时需要同时申请一个 PRELIMINARY.
PS FOR PRELIMINARY怎么写？可与ADVANCED specialty共用一个PS吗？如分开，在PS
FOR PRELIMINARY里是否要提到可能要申请的ADVANCED specialty
谢谢指导 |
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x******8
发帖数: 39 | 14 听说preliminary 很难申请到，几乎是不可能。
是不是应该同时申请同一医院的preliminary, 机会是否大一些？如果想等到有神经面
试的时候再申请preliminary, 还来的及吗？ |
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g****2
发帖数: 36 | 15 正在准备第一个R01 grant. preliminary data是不是越多越好？
实话说，我目前的data基本已经能covers所有的aim的主要论据，足够一个完整的story
发表文章了。那在写这个proposal时候是不是该把所有这些data都放进去。
preliminary data越多是不是中的几率越大。
另外还在犹豫是先投R03还是直接上R01. 能不能先用部分数据投R03然后过两个月再用
更全面的数据投R01 ? 因为毕竟R03中的几率要高。 |
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p**x
发帖数: 6614 | 16 个人意见，取决于你的工作是否是开创性的，如果特别开创，那么preliminary data少
一些也没关系，毕竟你没有太多钱浪费在概念性的东西上。如果不是特别开创，或者之
前有funding支持，那么preliminary data当然要多一些好
。 |
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t********9
发帖数: 536 | 17 谢谢大家的讨论，看来我还是谨慎一下比较好。如果我把 Preliminary Studies，换成
Background and Preliminary Studies，不知道是不是看上去合理一些？ |
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f*****y
发帖数: 1997 | 18 记得看到板上有人问过，也见过不同的回答。
今天想再和大家讨论一下
我个人的感觉是，应该可以用发表过的数据
换一句话说， 我觉得是否可以作为 preliminary data,不在于是否在杂志上发表过，
而是看这个结果对 proposal 里面的 hypothesis 支持的程度
比如， 我最近写一个实验方面的 proposal, 有一个 hypothesis
这个 hypothesis 在我之前发表的一片纯模拟的文章里面验证过了，
但是这还不够， 还需实验室的验证
那么我在proposal 里面可以这样说么：
The preliminary data support the hypothesis. However, there is a need to
conduct experimental studies to provide more conclusive results.
大家觉得可以这样写么？ |
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d*******e
发帖数: 49 | 19 【 以下文字转载自 TonyXuClub 俱乐部 】
发信人: dripstone (xxx), 信区: TonyXuClub
标 题: 拿到preliminary title report, SFH styple, condominium
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Mar 18 18:09:39 2010, 美东)
刚看到townhouse是condominium，我就遇到这种问题。拿到preliminary report, 居然
是condominium. 2900 sq.ft, 5200的lot, 还是condo. 社区基本都是这样的, 好几十
栋SFH共享LAND。HOA, monthly $90.真不明白为什么这样。以后resale会有问题吗？
看看老中心理，毕竟老中是buyer主力！ |
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f*******e
发帖数: 3433 | 20 In light of the recent suicides of several Palo Alto teens, the Center for
Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) began an epidemiological study in
February 2016 that investigated previous youth suicide clusters. Last week,
the CDC released preliminary findings of their study, which revealed that
mental health problems, recent crises and problems at school were major
factors in the suicides of the 232 youths throughout Santa Clara County the
CDC investigated.
The CDC’s research revealed that 46 pe... 阅读全帖 |
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r****m
发帖数: 1264 | 21 校友会转信：Preliminary Program for L. A. Reunion
Subject: Preliminary Program for L. A. Reunion (in simplified Chinese)
理事会通告（一） 2/14/2000
洛杉矶联欢会初步计划
时间: 星期六，7月 22日上午 9:00 时 开会式，下午讨论会， 晚上宴会及游
艺。
星期天：7月 23日上午 9:00 时开始观光。
地点:
Lincoln Plaza Hotel (蒙市林肯大酒店)
123 S. Lincoln Ave. Monterey Park, CA 91775
Tel: (800)423-2668; (626)571-8818; Fax: (626)571-4005
报名费: 美金$20/15/10, （夫妇/单身/学生）。
餐费另交（时价）。
房金（双人房）: $63.00 另加税 (团体优待价),请早定房。
筹备委员会主席：
陈 申 Shen (S |
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w********1
发帖数: 3492 | 22 Tue, 26 Jun 2012 19:52:10 PDT
Reuters and AllThingsD report that U.S. District Judge Lucy Koh granted a
preliminary injunction against the sales of the Samsung Galaxy Tab in the U.
S.
The ruling is the latest in the ongoing legal battle between Apple and
Samsung. Apple had accused Samsung of copying the design of Apple's iPad
and iPhone products. Apple has previously sought and won injunctions
against the sale of the same Samsung tablet in other countries.
As reported by AllThingsD, the new r... 阅读全帖 |
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t*********1
发帖数: 418 | 23 现在正在写一个proposal 的 preliminary data 部分。现在我没有更新的数据，所有
的数据刚刚发表。现在的这个proposal 是发表的文章的follow up. 可以用我刚刚发表
没多久的data 作为preliminary data 吗？我是不是只要引用我的文章就可以了？请有
经验的指教。 |
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ik
发帖数: 167 | 24 还有 PITTCON 2007 final program, or, preliminary program (PDF)
AICHE 2003 fall, final program, or, preliminary program (PDF)
或您手头恰好有，能否帮我扫描其中一，两页？急用
非常非常感谢 ！！
[email protected]/* */ |
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c*****e
发帖数: 43 | 25 大家好，我是2010 fall的博士新生.无意中发现了一个问题，让我担心了许久，想来这
里求助已获得更多的信息，提前谢谢你的耐心和帮助！
我的offer letter上有几条我获得funding的条件要求 （All funding is contingent
upon meeting all of the following conditions），其中一条让我很担心：
You are required to obtain a "clear pass" score on the PhD preliminary oral
examination, which is based on basic undergraduate material, in the Winter
Quarter 2011.
winter quarter 2011也就是明年初了，但是并没有说明是哪个月，总是会是在明年1，
2，3月中的某个时间吧。我在学校网站上查了，每人应该有两次机会来考这个
preliminary exam，而且只有本科学位的可以在三年内过,可是我的offer letter要求
我一次过，而且时间这 |
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c*****e
发帖数: 43 | 26 大家好，我是2010 fall的博士新生.无意中发现了一个问题，让我担心了许久，想来这
里求助已获得更多的信息，提前谢谢你的耐心和帮助！
我的offer letter上有几条我获得funding的条件要求 （All funding is contingent
upon meeting all of the following conditions），其中一条让我很担心：
You are required to obtain a "clear pass" score on the PhD preliminary oral
examination, which is based on basic undergraduate material, in the Winter
Quarter 2011.
winter quarter 2011也就是明年初了，但是并没有说明是哪个月，总是会是在明年1，
2，3月中的某个时间吧。我在学校网站上查了，每人应该有两次机会来考这个
preliminary exam，而且只有本科学位的可以在三年内过,可是我的offer letter要求
我一次过，而且时间这 |
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e*****a
发帖数: 1334 | 27 Preliminary medicine is the PGY-1 for specialties such as Aneths, Rads,
Neuro. If you're interested in IM just apply for categorical IM. Choosing
preliminary medicine people may think you use IM as backup. |
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e*****a
发帖数: 1334 | 28 You have to make up your mind, time is running out.
For internal medicine, you only need to apply for categorical IM (three
years which includes the PGY-1).
For general surgery, again, you may only apply for categorical general
surgery (five years which includes the PGY-1). Some people are dedicated to
surgery so they may also apply for preliminary surgery as backup. If they
don't get a categorical GS they will take the preliminary surgery and
hopefully will get into a categorical GS program one |
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h****g
发帖数: 6 | 29 可以申请内科Preliminary,而在PGY-2 Specialty 处又填Intermnal Medicine 吗？是
不是显得很奇怪？能不能把同一个医院内科的Preliminary 和Categorical 两者同时申
请？Thanks! |
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c******e
发帖数: 76 | 30 Since I need to apply for preliminary IM for advanced program, but that is
competitive so I will apply categorical IM for backup. Can I check both box
of preliminary and categorical IM in a program, but I can only use one ps in
that case? or apply separately by choosing different ps and pay money twice
to the same program?
Anyone in same situation or has experience or idea? Thanks a lot |
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e*****a
发帖数: 1334 | 31 Either preliminary medicine or transitional will wok, but it must include
a 6 to 8 months of internal medicine. That's why preliminary surgery can't
serve as a PGY-1 for Neuro. |
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d******t
发帖数: 28 | 32 I heard that Preliminary IM is even more competitive since many AMGs try to
get into Anesthesiology and Radiology ...through preliminary IM, is that
true? I wanna apply for Neurology.Thanks for your experience and input |
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m********n
发帖数: 53 | 33 没有GC，想申请提供H1b的program, 主要想申neurology。
如果neuro categorical 给H1b 就最好了，但是这样的program不多。
对于advanced neuro 和 IM preliminary，到底是谁给发H1b?如果他们都注明可能给
H1b， 意味着 IM preliminary 给
PGY1的签证， neuro advanced 给PGY2-4的签证？所以一定要找都给H1b的IM 和 Neuro
advanced？
多谢指教！ |
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C***P
发帖数: 44 | 34 在preliminary surgery Personal statement 中写将来要做其他program,还是可以
就直接写将来准备完成外科。
听说preliminary surgery 接着搞外科的几率很小。第二年是找Catergorial pgy-1
还是PGY-2的位置？
谢谢回复。 |
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s**********1
发帖数: 68 | 35 I'm planning to apply for some advanced specialty that requires preliminary
IM, as well as category IM. But I'm worried that if I check both preliminary
and category IM in the applications, the PD will know that I'm applying for
other specialty as well, and disregard my application. What's the best
strategy? Anybody has any experience or suggestion?
Thanks ahead of time for your help! |
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s********o
发帖数: 3319 | 36 我自己没吃过猪肉，不过听说过猪是这么跑的：基本上用你的advanced specialty的PS
，加上一段关于申请preliminary的话就可以了。
preliminary program 非常难申请的，transitional更是难上加难。要有思想和行动上
的准备。
PS |
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s********o
发帖数: 3319 | 37 如果你在第一年的7月1日不能顺利找到preliminary program 的话，你就会自动失去第
二年的advanced program,变得一无所有。这也是为什么每年总有一些神经科等等
advanced specialties有unexpected PGY-2 openings 的原因。
有时候advanced program 如果喜欢你的话，他们会帮你找preliminary,不过别把宝押
在这上面。 |
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e****0
发帖数: 678 | 38 The National Resident Matching Program has the following definitions:
Categorical programs begin in the PGY-1 year and provide the training
required for board certification in medical specialties.
Preliminary or one-year programs beginin the PGY-1 year and provide
prerequisite training for advanced programs.
http://ziauddin.lefora.com/2011/03/04/preliminary-vs-categorica |
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m*********6
发帖数: 235 | 39 From the guide, it seems that only the solicitation type of programs need
preliminary proposals. In that case, the formal proposal is called 'full
proposal'. However, all programs on the website show deadline as 'full
proposal due on ...'. So, if the webpage of a program does not indicate it
as a solicitation type but uses the term 'full proposal', it just means no
preliminary proposal needed. Is my understanding right? |
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q********1
发帖数: 250 | 40 With 50 percent of votes counted, preliminary results show 95.5% of voters
in Crimea want to join Russia, electoral official says.
菌版众酱如何反应，双方都有啥新指示 |
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S*******l
发帖数: 4637 | 41 Christensen will be held in the custody of the U.S. Marshals Service until 3
p.m. Wednesday, when a detention hearing will be held to determine bond.
A preliminary hearing was set for 10 a.m. on July 14. It would be waived if
a grand jury returns an indictment before then. |
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T*******e
发帖数: 1142 | 43 一份proposal如果没有preliminary research的话，reviewer会担心你propose的东西
是否合理。所以需要有至少一篇conference paper来掩护。
可是这样的话一年岂不是要写好多篇paper为proposal服务？那文章质量又没法保证了。
大家都是怎么解决这个问题的？尤其是一年写六七个，七八个proposal的大侠？ |
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d***a
发帖数: 13752 | 44 没有发的工作也可以作为preliminary results。另外相关的文章发多了也不好，评审
会问这个工作是不是已经做完了。 |
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b****l
发帖数: 85 | 45 Preliminary data is good enough. |
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x********u
发帖数: 15 | 46 I have one paper as second author, which includes partial work I have done
during postdoc. Can I use the data in this paper as preliminary data in my
proposal? Any ethic issue? |
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C**R
发帖数: 504 | 47 自己顶吧。
或者说，一般一个FOA的proposal需要几篇文章作为preliminary result呢？要是R系列
的grant，需要几篇文章呢？
好心前辈请回答一下吧。 |
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U**R
发帖数: 400 | 48 数据是在做PhD时候采的，但是花了挺长时间分析，所以最近才发表，我是第一作者，
PhD Adviser 是通讯作者。我现在在沿着这个方向做。
老板今年刚退休。但是这个结果会放在他NSF的report里边，我还能再拿来做我自己NSF
proposal里边的preliminary data么？ |
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N*******m
发帖数: 36 | 49 新手请问投了paper 的数据可以放到NSF proposal里做的preliminary results吗？谢谢
。 |
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A******y
发帖数: 2041 | 50 In my opinion, you can use your published data but it might not be in your
advantage. What I did for my R01 is that I quote my published data and only
used one figure for the summary for that paper (the R01 space is very tight
and you don't want to waste the space). Then, for rest of the preliminary,
I try to show the progress since the publication. This way you also showed
your progress since last paper published as additional bonus. You can
search what percentile I got on my R01. |
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