A**4
发帖数: 2165 | 1 USSR and German were approaching Poland from opposite direction and stopped
at the prearranged line. So not necessarily familiar with each other. |
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o***e
发帖数: 3526 | 2 你这个问题回答的不行。MD冲绳打赢了，对二战贡献>0。KMT么，按你的说法，整个中
国的贡献都是负的，那么效率也得是负的，和MD的效率自然是没法比的。咱们前提都说
了，朝鲜战争TG和MD算是平手，属于1:1，这才能比战争效率。按照口语的说法，这个
战争效果约等于战争效率乘上火力投射量。既然TG和MD打平，那么战争效果两边大致相
等你不反对吧（咱们严格一点，TG是口语里的TG+DPRK+USSR，MD是口语里的联合国军好
吧）。这样就可以比效率了。要是TG被MD碾压，那就没法按上面公式算效率了不是？将
军啊，不能说我不是老虎肉，你就不肯好好回答问题啊。太看人下菜碟了，俺表示不满
，强烈要求你好好想想，给个更有力的回答。 |
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o***e
发帖数: 3526 | 3 将军的逻辑陷井太多了，例如李将军还需要论证冲绳的日军和KMT面对的日军是同样的
日军，这估计又是一番口水。联合国军和TG+DPRK+USSR可是直接在战场上干的，可以直
接比较。将军需要重新整理逻辑链条。我对将军有信心，他一定一定能找出新的论证方
法。我们师母已呆。 |
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o***e
发帖数: 3526 | 4 你这啥意思？又转到一战了？你是怎么比较一战双方的战争效率的呢？貌似你啥也没说
啊？打赢打输也许能比效率，不过那就不是我说的这个算法了。如果你愿意的话，当然
可以给大家显示一下你的算法，不过这跟我的这个推理计算就不是同一件事情。我觉得
德国的战争效率不是我们关心的事情。我们就关心朝鲜战争中双方战争效率的比较。我
再贴一次我的算法，你参考一下，然后再来。我觉得你这几个帖子辩术大失水准。将军
作为一个版上的成名ID，我觉得有必要认真思考一下挽回名头。
咱们前提都说了，朝鲜战争TG和MD算是平手，属于1:1，这才能比战争效率。按照口语
的说法，这个战争效果约等于战争效率乘上火力投射量。既然TG和MD打平，那么战争效
果两边大致相等你不反对吧（咱们严格一点，TG是口语里的TG+DPRK+USSR，MD是口语里
的联合国军好吧）。这样就可以比效率了。 |
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A**4
发帖数: 2165 | 5 I guess the TV was based on "Sword and Shield", though not sure. But 吉洪诺
夫 didn't only 演个电视剧. He was one of the major figures in USSR movie era. |
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n*****t
发帖数: 22014 | 6 【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: cwlch (cwl), 信区: Military
标 题: “米格走廊”
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Jul 10 00:12:01 2014, 美东)
“米格走廊”
作者: Mahasam (Light)
一、前言
二、官方数字及其问题
三、双边空军态势
四、飞机比较
五、米格机VS军刀机战果与损失
六、剖析
七、结语
一、前言
半世纪前结束的韩战留下来的除了对峙五十年的南北韩外，还有一堆模糊浑沌的
历史，其间的空战史就是一个很好的例子。数十年来，有关苏联飞行员参战的传言 断
断续续地由联军飞行员口中传出，但是参战国官方对此都三缄其口，保持沈默。1990年
代苏联解体，解密档案释出的结果，让这段历史开始获得承认。苏联解 密档案虽然解
答了部分谜团，但仍然还有许多疑问待解。双边的空战战果和损失就是其中之一。
基本上来说，由于个人、单位、主官、以及整体政治宣传需求的影响，几乎所有
国家的空军在处理空战战果和自己损失的时候都会有所取舍，这是无可避免的。我 们
不必特别指责某些对象，因为这种报喜不报忧的态度是人人有份... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1 | 7 都是戏，
苏联从来没有在境外部署过核弹，连东欧都不放心部署过去，会去古巴？
google
Soviets had never deployed nuclear warheads outside the USSR. |
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D******D
发帖数: 1022 | 8 that is bull****.
USSR and east Germany used to outscore US by miles, that does not reflected
in PPP at all |
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D**S
发帖数: 24887 | 9 The fall of Communism really gave a wonderful opportunity for religious
conservatives to exert influence on the society. This is not to say USSR was
any gay friendlier though. |
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F*V
发帖数: 3978 | 10 The creator of Lisp and arguably the father of modern artificial
intelligence, John McCarthy, died last night. He studied mathematics with
the famous John Nash at Princeton and, notably, held the first “computer-
chess” match between scientists in the US and the USSR. He transmitted the
moves by telegraph.
McCarthy believed AI should be interactive, allowing for a give and take
similar to AI simulators like Eliza and, more recently, Siri. His own labs
were run in an open, free-wheeling fashion, ... 阅读全帖 |
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B*V
发帖数: 3365 | 11 world power:
Germany -- population < 1亿
UK -- population < 1 亿
France -- population < 1亿
Super power:
US -- population 3 亿
USSR -- population > 2亿
？？：
China -- population 15亿。
这是说的是industrialized population。三哥按这标准能算进去个三四百万人口有就
不错了。
过十年也只有土鳖这种土豪能玩得起航天了。
月球防空识别区当然应该设立，月面基地需要击落陨石之类的。 |
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x***n
发帖数: 5127 | 12 http://www.dwnews.com/gb/Consumer/finance/2008_9_18_16_17_28_857.html
香港文汇报/美国一向奉行资本主义自由市场经济，但在一场金融海啸下，多家金融机
构相继出事，投资者信心大受打击，政府连番出手救市，凸显自由市场资本主义荡然无
存。
USSAR近似前苏简称USSR
纽约大学经济学教授鲁比尼表示，美国已经成为「美利坚社会主义共和合众国(USSAR
)」，表示这个国家「为富人和华尔街奉行社会主义，利益私有化，损失社会化。」
多年来，美国银行家贪得无厌，经常批评政府监管市场的政策，指政府抑制金融业赚
取更多钱，但讽刺的是，当金融海啸来袭，他们纷纷要求政府救市，一下子由自由市场
信徒变成社会主义者。
事实上，这些华尔街银行家根本不值得同情，也不值得动用纳税人的金钱打救。过去
几年，纽约多家金融大行创造了一个「假大空」的经济世界，金融界很多从业员大赚红
利和佣金。这些钱来自他们不理经济基本因素，借得比他们资产值多出100至200倍的贷
款，最后爆煲，由美国纳税人甚至全球埋单。
近期美国救市动用的纳税人金钱大升，急速赶上伊拉克战争 |
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g********t
发帖数: 153 | 13
的。
______________________________________
His experience of Culture Rovlution. China's kernel issue has been the life
stand of million of farmers, not 资产阶级自由化
____________________________________________________
You think 戈尔巴乔 did a good job for USSR people? You are really insane (
or that is because you don't care Russia's national interest at all) |
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s*****l
发帖数: 217 | 14 USSR牛不牛？
十多年以前俺还支持联邦制的时候也考虑过这个名字，不过中国自由派知识分子里的联
邦制支持者们更喜欢“联邦共和国”，连宪法都捣鼓出来了，水平很低，被龙应台痛骂
。后来俺仔细回想，当年支持联邦制的每一条理由都站不住脚。能否请您去ahead刨的
坑里讨论一下您为什么支持联邦制？俺在那里简要写了一些反对联邦制、提倡弱省强县
的地方自治制度的理由：
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/Salon/31295197.html
历史上存在过尼德兰联合省，还有中美洲联合省，都没有维持下来（或王政复辟，或分
崩离析）。加拿大、阿根廷本来称作联合省，后来改了名。“联合省”这个名字不吉利
，还是不要再提了。 |
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P*******e
发帖数: 96 | 16 And Edward Teller's advocacy of SDI is another contribution. It lead to the
sausage like production of ICBM by USSR, which brought its downfall. |
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h********n
发帖数: 15 | 17
I am not interested in Rome history, which was wrote by people lived a
thousand year after. But, clearly, Rome empire is more like USSR, but far
different from the current USA. On the other hand,isolationism in China was
more or less like some libertarians purposed for USA.
They are not wastes, but failed investments. However, no investment is
guaranteed. US should change its investment strategies, or the tax payers
should be allowed to opt-out from failed investments.
Thank you. |
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r*****d
发帖数: 44 | 18 大家来看看带路党的嘴脸.
发信人: hahadaxian (hahadaxian), 信区: USANews
标 题: Re: Perry学得很快
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Jan 8 02:08:13 2012, 美东)
I am not interested in Rome history, which was wrote by people lived a
thousand year after. But, clearly, Rome empire is more like USSR, but far
different from the current USA. On the other hand,isolationism in China was
more or less like some libertarians purposed for USA.
They are not wastes, but failed investments. However, no investment is
guaranteed. US should change its... 阅读全帖 |
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S*********n
发帖数: 4050 | 19 He won sh*t.
It's Gorbachev. A traitor from USSR within. |
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w******g
发帖数: 2047 | 20 he did what USSR failed to do in the cold war, the penis is better than 10,
000 nuclear warheads
boat |
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m*********a
发帖数: 3299 | 21 Regarding the miracle of four tigers of east Asian, most people with history
knowledge will know their achievement, though amazing itself, are helped
greatly by the policy of USA during the cold war against USSR. The safety of
Singapore is protected by the gunboats of the USA navy, the one you
despises. Without such guarantee, the people of Singapore would live in
ruins and under the threat of genocide of Muslims. In a sense, the Chinese
in Singapore are beggars, fell down before the USA for pro... 阅读全帖 |
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m*********a
发帖数: 3299 | 22 Regarding the miracle of four tigers of east Asian, most people with history
knowledge will know their achievement, though amazing itself, are helped
greatly by the policy of USA during the cold war against USSR. The safety of
Singapore is protected by the gunboats of the USA navy, the one you
despises. Without such guarantee, the people of Singapore would live in
ruins and under the threat of genocide of Muslims. In a sense, the Chinese
in Singapore are beggars, fell down before the USA for pro... 阅读全帖 |
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k***n
发帖数: 3158 | 23 this can be don only in USSR |
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g***y
发帖数: 1268 | 24 刨去neo-con的好战成分，因为美国已经打不起任何一场仗了，neo-con到底是什么？
wiki neo-con:
During the early 1970s, Socialist Michael Harrington was one of the first to
use "neoconservative" in its modern meaning. He characterized
neoconservatives as former leftists – whom he derided as "socialists for
Nixon" – who had become more conservative.[citation needed] These people
tended to remain endorsers of social democracy, but distinguished themselves
by allying with the Nixon administration with respect to foreign policy,
especi... 阅读全帖 |
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b**********s
发帖数: 9531 | 25 hunt for 字典里有
http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/hunt+for
两个解释
1. to chase someone or something for sport.
例句 The hunter hunted for grouse on the game preserve. Frank likes to hunt
for deer.
2. to look for someone or something.
例句 I am hunting for someone to help me with the piano. lam hunting for a
new piano.
希拉里找温家宝显然不是寻求帮助，更符合第一个解释：追，隐含的目的是攻击。
再给各例子，有个电影叫he Hunt for Red October （http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0099810/）
剧情是：In 1984, the USSR's best submarine captain in their newest sub
violates ... 阅读全帖 |
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b**********s
发帖数: 9531 | 26 hunt for 词组在字典里有
http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/hunt+for
两个解释
1. to chase someone or something for sport.
例句 The hunter hunted for grouse on the game preserve. Frank likes to hunt
for deer.
2. to look for someone or something.
例句 I am hunting for someone to help me with the piano. lam hunting for a
new piano.
希拉里找温家宝显然不是寻求帮助，更符合第一个解释：追，隐含的目的是攻击。
再给各例子，有个电影叫he Hunt for Red October （http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0099810/）
剧情是：In 1984, the USSR's best submarine captain in their newest sub
violat... 阅读全帖 |
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g********2
发帖数: 6571 | 27 steve 4 hours ago
This is what Hillary and Bernie will bring to America
A new law will come into effect in Sweden after Christmas 2014, that will
allow people to be prosecuted for criticizing immigration or politician’s
unwillingness to tackle the issue.
The Constitutional Committee’s report has been voted for in parliament,
seen in a letter from the Parliamentary Offices. Member of Parliament Andrew
Norlén, member of the Constitutional Committee, has been pushing the issue
and he says it will r... 阅读全帖 |
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g********2
发帖数: 6571 | 28 July 27, 2016
Remember when Ted Kennedy asked the Soviets for help defeating Reagan?
By Thomas Lifson
The Democrats are desperately diverting attention away from their rigging
the nomination fight by charging that Russia is interfering in our election.
But there was a time when going to Moscow to help defeat the other party
didn’t seem to disturb Democrats. In fact, with the help of friendly media,
the entire incident has been sent to the memory hole. Once upon a time it
was revealed, but nobody... 阅读全帖 |
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b********n
发帖数: 38600 | 29 Trump is unleashing this in an environment where it's considered an act of
treason for Trump's people to speak with Russians. I started traveling to
the USSR in 1981, and DC is somehow worse. |
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A******e
发帖数: 655 | 31 赛维琪说枪手是安塔法,他在Facebook上贴的照片，左臂上是纳粹铁十字，右领是镰刀
斧头章 |
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C********1
发帖数: 5281 | 33 说明他父母本身也有点问题，否则子女胳膊上有这种纹身不可能不知道。 |
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h***e
发帖数: 2823 | 34 用爱发电教的？不是以前都用棒球棍么，到了gun free zone 就换枪了？
: 赛维琪说枪手是安塔法,他在Facebook上贴的照片，左臂上是纳粹铁十字，右领
是镰刀
: 斧头章
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W*****t
发帖数: 2425 | 35 这种东西女川粉信也就罢了，您老这么大年纪了，也跟着信？ |
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f**********n
发帖数: 29853 | 36 左派名犬胖三鬼又出来了。。。。。
好在俺有疫苗。。。。 |
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W*****t
发帖数: 2425 | 37 你看看你，我们这儿说ANTIFA刺青这事， cellcycle, Adrianne, Houge 都相信，
我不信，觉得这是FAKE的。
你掺和进来，你好歹说说你站哪一边？ 你信还是不信啊？
跟讨论相关的什么都不说，张嘴就是纯咬人。 |
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f**********n
发帖数: 29853 | 39 问我这问题就证明了我以前说你的，英语不好，学历不高，智商极低。
你别气，听我解释。
俺觉得俺性格真的和法官类似，看到硬梆梆的证据才下判断。
至于这个枪手，已经有新闻说他有纳粹和共产标记了。 |
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h***e
发帖数: 2823 | 40 这和左右无关，得看credit吧。
除非那几个菌斑过来骂街的，谁说话俺都认真听啊，不信你问甜妞anda2015，谈政见我
和他们尿不到一个壶里，但都能做到好好说话啊。
: 这种东西女川粉信也就罢了，您老这么大年纪了，也跟着信？
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f**********n
发帖数: 29853 | 41 猴哥要理解名犬胖三鬼，他被骗的狠了，尤其最近。。。。 |
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W*****t
发帖数: 2425 | 42 这么巧，我也看到新闻说“Fake Facebook accounts and online lies multiply in
hours after Santa Fe school shooting”
新闻里面说，：
Alt-right news sites also quickly spread unsubstantiated allegations
claiming the shooter was part of the Antifa movement.
我看的新闻是华邮的，你把你看的“硬邦邦”的新闻证据也贴贴呗。
: 问我这问题就证明了我以前说你的，英语不好，学历不高，智商极低。
: 你别气，听我解释。
: 俺觉得俺性格真的和法官类似，看到硬梆梆的证据才下判断。
: 至于这个枪手，已经有新闻说他有纳粹和共产标记了。
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W*****t
发帖数: 2425 | 44 总结一下，本楼场景对话。
老王：你学历不高，你英语不好，你智商极低。你这条咬人疯狗，看我咬你！！
老王：我相信枪手是ANTIFA！ 我看过新闻！我有“硬邦邦”的证据！
我：我也看过新闻说这个ANTIFA的事是假的.(贴华邮新闻,见附图）。老王该你了，你
贴贴你的“硬邦邦”新闻证据？
老王：我尿急，先走了。。。。 |
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c*******e
发帖数: 5818 | 45 我不了解antifa 什么 标志，纹身，只记得愿意黑布蒙脸，好像见不得人；再一个也没
往哪儿靠！
：
：你看看你，我们这儿说ANTIFA刺青这事， cellcycle, Adrianne, Houge 都相信， |
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c*******e
发帖数: 5818 | 46 回头我找找这篇看看，有点意思，
但华邮 很反trump，经常fake news，要是bloomberg或wall street，hill就好了，这
几个 hard news 没那么离谱。
：这么巧，我也看到新闻说“Fake Facebook accounts and online lies multiply in
：hours after Santa Fe school shooting” |
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D***I
发帖数: 1957 | 47 呵呵
几个小时弄个账号，弄一堆发帖还有回复，还有嫌疑人自己的照片？
请问how to？ |
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发帖数: 1 | 48 监督？你是说KGB吧。USSR？真嗝，你。
人家没犯法，如果白宫能够给出记者犯法，也是法官说话。其他。。。真看不出有什么
地方违反行政规定，
: 都自由了，谁来监督这帮烂记者啊？真把自己当成无冕之王了？
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k******0
发帖数: 2438 | 49 攻击妇女...I believe survivals
：监督？你是说KGB吧。USSR？真嗝，你。
：人家没犯法，如果白宫能够给出记者犯法，也是法官说话。其他。。。真看不出有什
么地方违反行政规定，
：【 在 Jelimi(炮叔) 的大作中提到: 】
：
: 都自由了，谁来监督这帮烂记者啊？真把自己当成无冕之王了？
：
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发帖数: 1 | 50 港真。。。不明白你什么意思
: 攻击妇女...I believe survivals
: ：监督？你是说KGB吧。USSR？真嗝，你。
: ：人家没犯法，如果白宫能够给出记者犯法，也是法官说话。其他。。。真看不
出有什
: 么地方违反行政规定，
: ：【 在 Jelimi(炮叔) 的大作中提到: 】
: ： |
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