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w****1 发帖数: 4931 | 3 What about Dire Tune, heihei. She ain't bad looking either. Here is a
picture of them side by side.
【在 b*********a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我心目中第一美女
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e****f 发帖数: 3393 | 4 娜娜喜欢高个美女。
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : What about Dire Tune, heihei. She ain't bad looking either. Here is a : picture of them side by side.
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u******a 发帖数: 7843 | 5 今年没来boston...
【在 b*********a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我心目中第一美女
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w****1 发帖数: 4931 | 6 She's trying to get pregnant...not sure if it has happened yet.
【在 u******a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 今年没来boston...
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e****f 发帖数: 3393 | 7 难道跑马的不容易get pregnancy?
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : She's trying to get pregnant...not sure if it has happened yet.
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w****1 发帖数: 4931 | 8 What kind of logic is this? If you want to blame anyone you'd be blaming the
guy.:)
【在 e****f 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 难道跑马的不容易get pregnancy?
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e****f 发帖数: 3393 | 9 Totally from your short statement ah...
Well, that's another non-stop debate like chicken first egg second or egg
first chicken second...
the
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : What kind of logic is this? If you want to blame anyone you'd be blaming the : guy.:)
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m*******r 发帖数: 13263 | 10 這個不是一個合適的類比。哈,gotcha.....
【在 e****f 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Totally from your short statement ah... : Well, that's another non-stop debate like chicken first egg second or egg : first chicken second... : : the
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b*********a 发帖数: 1145 | 11 嗯,她也挺漂亮的,而且身材更好
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : What about Dire Tune, heihei. She ain't bad looking either. Here is a : picture of them side by side.
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b*********a 发帖数: 1145 | 12 谁说的,俺们矮子还是更喜欢矮的
【在 e****f 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 娜娜喜欢高个美女。
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e****f 发帖数: 3393 | 13 言不由衷啊。嘿嘿,你知道!
【在 b*********a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 谁说的,俺们矮子还是更喜欢矮的
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b*********a 发帖数: 1145 | 14 哦,她就是09 波马上面晕倒的那个丫头吧?很佩服
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : What about Dire Tune, heihei. She ain't bad looking either. Here is a : picture of them side by side.
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b*********a 发帖数: 1145 | 15 All marathon girls are beautiful! much more beautiful than fashion girls!
【在 e****f 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 言不由衷啊。嘿嘿,你知道!
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v****e 发帖数: 19471 | 16 that's bullshit.
【在 b*********a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : All marathon girls are beautiful! much more beautiful than fashion girls!
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E********8 发帖数: 80 | |
e****f 发帖数: 3393 | 18 看你怎么定义精瘦肉?但跑马厉害的,没一个胖子倒是真的。
【在 E********8 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 提问:跑马是精瘦肉的充分条件吗?
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E********8 发帖数: 80 | 19 照片上这样的。
【在 e****f 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 看你怎么定义精瘦肉?但跑马厉害的,没一个胖子倒是真的。
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e****f 发帖数: 3393 | 20 跑马的的确肌肉里红肌纤维比较多。那个算精瘦肉吧。
【在 E********8 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 照片上这样的。
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g**y 发帖数: 1106 | 21 和你长得有点像啊!
【在 b*********a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我心目中第一美女
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Y*Y 发帖数: 4838 | 22 ft,受不了,看上去比俺还man
【在 b*********a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我心目中第一美女
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w****1 发帖数: 4931 | 23 I can only feel sorry for you for being a girly man.
【在 Y*Y 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : ft,受不了,看上去比俺还man
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w****1 发帖数: 4931 | 24 You don't know what you are talking about.
【在 v****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : that's bullshit.
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v****e 发帖数: 19471 | 25 do tell.
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : You don't know what you are talking about.
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w****1 发帖数: 4931 | 26 Runners are attractive to runners not only because of the looks, but because
they share the same kind of
lifestyle, they understand each other's highs and lows, the pains, the
struggles, and the successes. All
marathoners understand that true strength and beauty comes from within.
【在 v****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : do tell.
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e****f 发帖数: 3393 | 27 就是说,超越了外在和肉体本身,进入一种强烈的精神世界的吸引。对吧?
By the same token, swimmers are attractive to swimmers...jumpers are
attractive to jumpers...
In Chinese, 8 letters - 身同感受,惺惺相惜。但就不存在一种跨越项目之间的美感
么?
because
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Runners are attractive to runners not only because of the looks, but because : they share the same kind of : lifestyle, they understand each other's highs and lows, the pains, the : struggles, and the successes. All : marathoners understand that true strength and beauty comes from within.
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l******u 发帖数: 3169 | |
w****1 发帖数: 4931 | 29 Well, running is special. Because, first of all, runners run a lot. Second
of all, many people run. Very few
people swim on a daily basis, or practice jumping on a daily basis. But many
runners run 5-7 days a week.
While most swimmers only swim in a pool, runners run on roads, mountains,
beaches, through woods, trails,
and on the treadmill. Runners travel around the world to run marathons and
other races. Swimmers don't talk
to each other in the pool. Runners get into conversations with complete
【在 e****f 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 就是说,超越了外在和肉体本身,进入一种强烈的精神世界的吸引。对吧? : By the same token, swimmers are attractive to swimmers...jumpers are : attractive to jumpers... : In Chinese, 8 letters - 身同感受,惺惺相惜。但就不存在一种跨越项目之间的美感 : 么? : : because
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e****f 发帖数: 3393 | 30 小树童鞋大致若鱼啊。
【在 l******u 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 大家英语都真好 orz
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v****e 发帖数: 19471 | 31 it's great you guys have this inner circle where beauty is defined as an all
-ripped female runner with almost no body fat, no breast and a sun-destroyed
skin. I'm a work out enthusiast and have all kinds of respect for her and t
he other runners. however, for a non-marathoner male whose taste has not bee
n reconfigured by years of marathon training, she is not a beauty at all.
because
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Runners are attractive to runners not only because of the looks, but because : they share the same kind of : lifestyle, they understand each other's highs and lows, the pains, the : struggles, and the successes. All : marathoners understand that true strength and beauty comes from within.
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w****1 发帖数: 4931 | 32 Kara doesn't look so extreme. Speaking of female runners with low body fat
you should check out Deena
Kastor.
all
destroyed
t
bee
【在 v****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : it's great you guys have this inner circle where beauty is defined as an all : -ripped female runner with almost no body fat, no breast and a sun-destroyed : skin. I'm a work out enthusiast and have all kinds of respect for her and t : he other runners. however, for a non-marathoner male whose taste has not bee : n reconfigured by years of marathon training, she is not a beauty at all. : : because
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v****e 发帖数: 19471 | 33 underground society... like... X-Men?
many
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Well, running is special. Because, first of all, runners run a lot. Second : of all, many people run. Very few : people swim on a daily basis, or practice jumping on a daily basis. But many : runners run 5-7 days a week. : While most swimmers only swim in a pool, runners run on roads, mountains, : beaches, through woods, trails, : and on the treadmill. Runners travel around the world to run marathons and : other races. Swimmers don't talk : to each other in the pool. Runners get into conversations with complete
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v****e 发帖数: 19471 | 34 uh.. she looks like donald trump with late-stage cancer. seriously.
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Kara doesn't look so extreme. Speaking of female runners with low body fat : you should check out Deena : Kastor. : : all : destroyed : t : bee
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E********8 发帖数: 80 | 35 这得是个exclusive high society.象我这种三天打鱼两天种地的进不到那种境界啊。
many
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Well, running is special. Because, first of all, runners run a lot. Second : of all, many people run. Very few : people swim on a daily basis, or practice jumping on a daily basis. But many : runners run 5-7 days a week. : While most swimmers only swim in a pool, runners run on roads, mountains, : beaches, through woods, trails, : and on the treadmill. Runners travel around the world to run marathons and : other races. Swimmers don't talk : to each other in the pool. Runners get into conversations with complete
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l******l 发帖数: 2679 | 36 中间那个黑女的腿型非常漂亮。Lean but smooth.
Women.jpg
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : What about Dire Tune, heihei. She ain't bad looking either. Here is a : picture of them side by side.
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o*********e 发帖数: 2452 | 37 严重同意。。。
看的我老头晕眼花,洗洗呼呼去袅。。
【在 l******u 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 大家英语都真好 orz
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e****f 发帖数: 3393 | 38 四个字总结:
爱屋及乌!
many
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Well, running is special. Because, first of all, runners run a lot. Second : of all, many people run. Very few : people swim on a daily basis, or practice jumping on a daily basis. But many : runners run 5-7 days a week. : While most swimmers only swim in a pool, runners run on roads, mountains, : beaches, through woods, trails, : and on the treadmill. Runners travel around the world to run marathons and : other races. Swimmers don't talk : to each other in the pool. Runners get into conversations with complete
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b*********a 发帖数: 1145 | 39 妞妞你急需配眼镜!!
【在 g**y 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 和你长得有点像啊!
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f*******n 发帖数: 5241 | 40 不喜欢这样的,都成风干木乃伊了。
【在 v****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : uh.. she looks like donald trump with late-stage cancer. seriously.
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w****1 发帖数: 4931 | 41 She weighs 104 lb, eats 5000 calories a day, and her resting heart rate is
28 beats per minute.
【在 f*******n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 不喜欢这样的,都成风干木乃伊了。
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m*******r 发帖数: 13263 | 42 Such a strong heart...
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : She weighs 104 lb, eats 5000 calories a day, and her resting heart rate is : 28 beats per minute.
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g*******1 发帖数: 8758 | 43 wow, 28...
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : She weighs 104 lb, eats 5000 calories a day, and her resting heart rate is : 28 beats per minute.
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e****f 发帖数: 3393 | 44 的确很厉害!我们中学的时候田径队里一跑长跑的哥们,空军到学校招飞,第一轮给刷
下来了,原因是心动过缓,脉搏才30多。。。后来出示长跑得奖证书,教练证明啥的,
才以“运动员心脏”进入第二轮。
【在 g*******1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : wow, 28...
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m*******r 发帖数: 13263 | 45 記得那個騎自行車的安度蘭平時也是30來下。比賽的時候也就100來下還是怎麼的?
【在 e****f 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 的确很厉害!我们中学的时候田径队里一跑长跑的哥们,空军到学校招飞,第一轮给刷 : 下来了,原因是心动过缓,脉搏才30多。。。后来出示长跑得奖证书,教练证明啥的, : 才以“运动员心脏”进入第二轮。
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g*******1 发帖数: 8758 | 46 练之前是多少?是天生心脏强所以长跑强还是练了之后心脏很强?
【在 e****f 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 的确很厉害!我们中学的时候田径队里一跑长跑的哥们,空军到学校招飞,第一轮给刷 : 下来了,原因是心动过缓,脉搏才30多。。。后来出示长跑得奖证书,教练证明啥的, : 才以“运动员心脏”进入第二轮。
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z*****a 发帖数: 9790 | 47 30这种得靠天赋了
【在 g*******1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 练之前是多少?是天生心脏强所以长跑强还是练了之后心脏很强?
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g*******1 发帖数: 8758 | 48 恩,我很佩服小时候就有毅力练长跑的,想当年我多懒啊。。
【在 z*****a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 30这种得靠天赋了
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e****f 发帖数: 3393 | 49 不知道,只知道这小子精瘦精瘦的。每天下午我们在沙坑里练,他就一圈一圈地跑,变
速,冲刺。。。反正我是跑不过这厮。
For sure,经过锻炼以后,你的心脏脉搏会慢下来,肺活量会显著增加。对了,以前校
医院的测肺活量的仪器,最大只有6000ml,这小子超过了没法测到准确的。俺那时是
5500ml来着,差远了。一般人也就3,4千吧。
【在 g*******1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 练之前是多少?是天生心脏强所以长跑强还是练了之后心脏很强?
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z*****a 发帖数: 9790 | 50 明明是bso自己肺活量大
【在 e****f 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 不知道,只知道这小子精瘦精瘦的。每天下午我们在沙坑里练,他就一圈一圈地跑,变 : 速,冲刺。。。反正我是跑不过这厮。 : For sure,经过锻炼以后,你的心脏脉搏会慢下来,肺活量会显著增加。对了,以前校 : 医院的测肺活量的仪器,最大只有6000ml,这小子超过了没法测到准确的。俺那时是 : 5500ml来着,差远了。一般人也就3,4千吧。
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e****f 发帖数: 3393 | 51 啊哈,知糊涂者肥猫耶。。。just kidding。
俺从初中开始每天早晨起来练长跑。那个时候根本不懂运动保健知识,父母也没办法指
导。起来喝点水,就开始跑。练了几年才练成那么点肺活量,真的是很惭愧。要是那时
侯知道补充点糖,锻炼后加强营养,至少现在会结实得多。
【在 z*****a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 明明是bso自己肺活量大
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f*******n 发帖数: 5241 | 52 ”She can only bench press 65 pounds and squat 105 pounds “。 Not my kind
of role model. :)
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : She weighs 104 lb, eats 5000 calories a day, and her resting heart rate is : 28 beats per minute.
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z*****a 发帖数: 9790 | 53 飞姐这次我要跟你唱反调了
【在 f*******n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : ”She can only bench press 65 pounds and squat 105 pounds “。 Not my kind : of role model. :)
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v****e 发帖数: 19471 | 54 vampire
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : She weighs 104 lb, eats 5000 calories a day, and her resting heart rate is : 28 beats per minute.
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f*******n 发帖数: 5241 | 55 唱吧。我就是不喜欢跑马拉松的体型,没办法。
我也不喜欢跑步。:)
【在 z*****a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 飞姐这次我要跟你唱反调了
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e****f 发帖数: 3393 | 56 我们一般健身的追求的是个综合素质,速度,力量,灵敏,耐力。专业跑马的追求的是
super耐力速度,有得必有失,这样必然忽视其他一些方面。可以理解。
【在 f*******n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : ”She can only bench press 65 pounds and squat 105 pounds “。 Not my kind : of role model. :)
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v****e 发帖数: 19471 | 57 女人要是把胸都跑没了,那真是本末倒置了。本来就没胸的无所谓。。。
【在 e****f 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我们一般健身的追求的是个综合素质,速度,力量,灵敏,耐力。专业跑马的追求的是 : super耐力速度,有得必有失,这样必然忽视其他一些方面。可以理解。
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f*******n 发帖数: 5241 | 58 理解是理解的,相扑和橄榄球的线人还要有意增肥呢。只是不是我的type罢了。
【在 e****f 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我们一般健身的追求的是个综合素质,速度,力量,灵敏,耐力。专业跑马的追求的是 : super耐力速度,有得必有失,这样必然忽视其他一些方面。可以理解。
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w****1 发帖数: 4931 | 59 It's clearly the result of training. I've been running regularly for 9 years
, and my rest heart rate can be as low
as 39. When I was a kid my heart rate was just like every other kid in
school.
【在 g*******1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 练之前是多少?是天生心脏强所以长跑强还是练了之后心脏很强?
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w****1 发帖数: 4931 | 60 No these people will push their heart rate to 180 or even 190 in the
marathon. So imagine the kind of speed
they will be able to sustain. The professional male marathoners run the
marathon at sub 5 min/mile pace, and
the very best of them run at 4:45/mile. Only a small fraction of people on
this board can run 400m at that
speed.
【在 m*******r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 記得那個騎自行車的安度蘭平時也是30來下。比賽的時候也就100來下還是怎麼的?
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g*******1 发帖数: 8758 | 61 好大的进步
years
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : It's clearly the result of training. I've been running regularly for 9 years : , and my rest heart rate can be as low : as 39. When I was a kid my heart rate was just like every other kid in : school.
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m*******r 发帖数: 13263 | 62 跑步對我來說太無聊了。。。所以我一直都跑不起來。。。
【在 e****f 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 啊哈,知糊涂者肥猫耶。。。just kidding。 : 俺从初中开始每天早晨起来练长跑。那个时候根本不懂运动保健知识,父母也没办法指 : 导。起来喝点水,就开始跑。练了几年才练成那么点肺活量,真的是很惭愧。要是那时 : 侯知道补充点糖,锻炼后加强营养,至少现在会结实得多。
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g******p 发帖数: 111 | 63 My type too!
Echo the post by ...
【在 b*********a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我心目中第一美女
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b*********a 发帖数: 1145 | 64 Super cool and super hot!! I like this, full of life and energy!! To me,
pretty girls and boys who are not moving are like ... just meat. LOL
【在 g******p 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : My type too! : Echo the post by ...
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b*********a 发帖数: 1145 | 65 Holy cow! 350 miles non-stop! 50 marathons in 50 states in 50 days! He's a
superman!!!
【在 g******p 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : My type too! : Echo the post by ...
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g******p 发帖数: 111 | 66 //shake hands!
【在 b*********a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Holy cow! 350 miles non-stop! 50 marathons in 50 states in 50 days! He's a : superman!!!
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u******a 发帖数: 7843 | 67 太牛逼了...
【在 b*********a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Holy cow! 350 miles non-stop! 50 marathons in 50 states in 50 days! He's a : superman!!!
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w****1 发帖数: 4931 | 68 I thought surely you'd have known about Dean Karnazes. But even Dean is not
the most awesome athlete in the world of ultra-endurance. Check out Scott
Jurek and Yiannis Kouros.
【在 b*********a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Holy cow! 350 miles non-stop! 50 marathons in 50 states in 50 days! He's a : superman!!!
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b*********a 发帖数: 1145 | 69 God i can never imagine human have so much potential!!
not
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I thought surely you'd have known about Dean Karnazes. But even Dean is not : the most awesome athlete in the world of ultra-endurance. Check out Scott : Jurek and Yiannis Kouros.
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e****f 发帖数: 3393 | 70 可以理解,的确没有打球好玩。但是这玩意儿是基础。那句话怎么说,练舞不练功,到
老一场空。对运动的喜爱的确是各花入各眼的事。人通常都是对自己喜爱或擅长的东西
有偏爱。
【在 m*******r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 跑步對我來說太無聊了。。。所以我一直都跑不起來。。。
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w****1 发帖数: 4931 | 71 To runners, running is more fun than playing ballgames.:) Most serious
runners will tell you that in running, they feel the touch of God. It is
very, very true.
【在 e****f 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 可以理解,的确没有打球好玩。但是这玩意儿是基础。那句话怎么说,练舞不练功,到 : 老一场空。对运动的喜爱的确是各花入各眼的事。人通常都是对自己喜爱或擅长的东西 : 有偏爱。
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f*******n 发帖数: 5241 | 72 I like Dean. I've read several books of his. Probably because he is an
ultra runner, he does not have the typical thin build of a marathon runner.
"He goes to the gym for muscle strengthening workouts. If he can not make
it to the gym, he does 4 sets of 50 pull-ups and 4 sets of 90 push-ups—once
in the morning and once in the evening." Now that's the kind I like. :)
http://baldrunner.com/2008/07/08/dean-karnazes-ultra-marathon-man/
His book, "Ultra Marathon Man", talks about how he started runn
【在 b*********a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Holy cow! 350 miles non-stop! 50 marathons in 50 states in 50 days! He's a : superman!!!
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g*******1 发帖数: 8758 | 73 lol, that makes it fun to read books written by runners.
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : To runners, running is more fun than playing ballgames.:) Most serious : runners will tell you that in running, they feel the touch of God. It is : very, very true.
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w****1 发帖数: 4931 | 74 Ultra runners come in different body shapes. Dean is into many different
sports. The very best ultramarathoners, such as Josh Cox and Scott Jurek,
are not muscle man like Dean. In fact, Dean has been beaten in badwater by a
skinny woman, Pam Reed (although she doesn't have Dean's muscles, of course
, she is tough as nails).
.
once
miles
his
【在 f*******n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I like Dean. I've read several books of his. Probably because he is an : ultra runner, he does not have the typical thin build of a marathon runner. : "He goes to the gym for muscle strengthening workouts. If he can not make : it to the gym, he does 4 sets of 50 pull-ups and 4 sets of 90 push-ups—once : in the morning and once in the evening." Now that's the kind I like. :) : http://baldrunner.com/2008/07/08/dean-karnazes-ultra-marathon-man/ : His book, "Ultra Marathon Man", talks about how he started runn
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f*******n 发帖数: 5241 | 75 I thought it was because he does not need to go as fast as he could and he
needed some reserves for the ultra long runs. So it has more to do with
weight training (duh!). Nonethelss I like his kind better.
a
course
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Ultra runners come in different body shapes. Dean is into many different : sports. The very best ultramarathoners, such as Josh Cox and Scott Jurek, : are not muscle man like Dean. In fact, Dean has been beaten in badwater by a : skinny woman, Pam Reed (although she doesn't have Dean's muscles, of course : , she is tough as nails). : : . : once : miles : his
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m*******r 发帖数: 13263 | 76 Like a religion...?
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : To runners, running is more fun than playing ballgames.:) Most serious : runners will tell you that in running, they feel the touch of God. It is : very, very true.
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g*******1 发帖数: 8758 | 77 more like a cult
【在 m*******r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Like a religion...?
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m*******r 发帖数: 13263 | 78 what is a cult?
【在 g*******1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : more like a cult
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w****1 发帖数: 4931 | 79 In a race, you give your best. Dean knows how to push his body to its limit
as much as any other top
ultramarathoners. In western states 100-miler, one of the most famous
ultraendurance events in the world,
Dean's best finish is #4. Scott Jurek has won it, yes, WON IT, 7 times. Dean
possibly has the best body among
ultramarathoners. But the impressive physique isn't a requisite of elite
level performance.
In fact, few ultramarathoners care what their body look like. Ultramarathoners understand t
【在 f*******n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I thought it was because he does not need to go as fast as he could and he : needed some reserves for the ultra long runs. So it has more to do with : weight training (duh!). Nonethelss I like his kind better. : : a : course
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m*******r 发帖数: 13263 | 80 all around atheletes are more balanced...
【在 f*******n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I thought it was because he does not need to go as fast as he could and he : needed some reserves for the ultra long runs. So it has more to do with : weight training (duh!). Nonethelss I like his kind better. : : a : course
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e****f 发帖数: 3393 | 81 嘿嘿,和你抬抬杠。你对自己喜爱的项目达到如痴如迷,甚至爱屋及乌的地步,任何一
个曾经对某种运动痴迷的人,都是可以体会和理解的。
但是,萝卜青菜,各有所爱。每个人有不同的特质,生理上的长处和短处,对不同的运
动肯定喜欢和排斥的程度不同。运动项目的prejudice,其实就是爱好者自己,根据自
己的经验,以自己的喜好作为参照物的产物。
我10几年前开始疯狂喜欢羽毛球的时候,痴迷到认为任何人都应该觉得羽毛球 -
fastest racket game in the world - 是世界上最完美的sports。甚至以1985年顶级
羽毛球和网球比赛的数据,说明羽毛球远比网球tough。羽毛球就是我心中的god!
好在我还喜欢其他很多的项目,田径,足球,排球,健身。。。我开始反省自己,终于
意识到这是因为自己太爱,而产生的prejudice。runner因为超长距离而让身体面临极
限的体验而feel the touch of god; 羽毛球因为对身体素质和心理素质的综合超高要
求而让人feel the touch of god. 推广到其他项目也是一样。
说个不好听的话,不怕你是跑马的,体力
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : To runners, running is more fun than playing ballgames.:) Most serious : runners will tell you that in running, they feel the touch of God. It is : very, very true.
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g*******1 发帖数: 8758 | 82 哇,码这么多字,值得表扬
【在 e****f 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 嘿嘿,和你抬抬杠。你对自己喜爱的项目达到如痴如迷,甚至爱屋及乌的地步,任何一 : 个曾经对某种运动痴迷的人,都是可以体会和理解的。 : 但是,萝卜青菜,各有所爱。每个人有不同的特质,生理上的长处和短处,对不同的运 : 动肯定喜欢和排斥的程度不同。运动项目的prejudice,其实就是爱好者自己,根据自 : 己的经验,以自己的喜好作为参照物的产物。 : 我10几年前开始疯狂喜欢羽毛球的时候,痴迷到认为任何人都应该觉得羽毛球 - : fastest racket game in the world - 是世界上最完美的sports。甚至以1985年顶级 : 羽毛球和网球比赛的数据,说明羽毛球远比网球tough。羽毛球就是我心中的god! : 好在我还喜欢其他很多的项目,田径,足球,排球,健身。。。我开始反省自己,终于 : 意识到这是因为自己太爱,而产生的prejudice。runner因为超长距离而让身体面临极
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m*******r 发帖数: 13263 | 83 這就是為什麼我打羽毛球被女同事切特了。。。唉……
【在 e****f 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 可以理解,的确没有打球好玩。但是这玩意儿是基础。那句话怎么说,练舞不练功,到 : 老一场空。对运动的喜爱的确是各花入各眼的事。人通常都是对自己喜爱或擅长的东西 : 有偏爱。
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e****f 发帖数: 3393 | 84 你练练切特回去。
【在 m*******r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 這就是為什麼我打羽毛球被女同事切特了。。。唉……
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f*******n 发帖数: 5241 | 85 我的意思是ultramarathon可能身体轻带来的速度优势不是那么大,要是跑不
下来那个距离再快也没用。
这里有一篇很有意思的关于ultramarathon的文章。其中说到Pam Reed如何
不服Dean Karnazes得到的publicity以及这里提到的一些ultra runner的故事
和照片。
http://outside.away.com/outside/bodywork/200510/ultrarunners-1.html
limit
Dean
Ultramarathoners understand that true
course, Dean Karnazes is a great
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : In a race, you give your best. Dean knows how to push his body to its limit : as much as any other top : ultramarathoners. In western states 100-miler, one of the most famous : ultraendurance events in the world, : Dean's best finish is #4. Scott Jurek has won it, yes, WON IT, 7 times. Dean : possibly has the best body among : ultramarathoners. But the impressive physique isn't a requisite of elite : level performance. : In fact, few ultramarathoners care what their body look like. Ultramarathoners understand t
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b*********a 发帖数: 1145 | 86 I believe this! that's why those people can achieve something which is
impossible for human beings to achieve!
Most serious runners will tell you that in running, they feel the touch of
God. It is very, very true.
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : In a race, you give your best. Dean knows how to push his body to its limit : as much as any other top : ultramarathoners. In western states 100-miler, one of the most famous : ultraendurance events in the world, : Dean's best finish is #4. Scott Jurek has won it, yes, WON IT, 7 times. Dean : possibly has the best body among : ultramarathoners. But the impressive physique isn't a requisite of elite : level performance. : In fact, few ultramarathoners care what their body look like. Ultramarathoners understand t
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b*********a 发帖数: 1145 | 87 你打羽毛球能打到静止心率30多下吗? Duh!
【在 e****f 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 嘿嘿,和你抬抬杠。你对自己喜爱的项目达到如痴如迷,甚至爱屋及乌的地步,任何一 : 个曾经对某种运动痴迷的人,都是可以体会和理解的。 : 但是,萝卜青菜,各有所爱。每个人有不同的特质,生理上的长处和短处,对不同的运 : 动肯定喜欢和排斥的程度不同。运动项目的prejudice,其实就是爱好者自己,根据自 : 己的经验,以自己的喜好作为参照物的产物。 : 我10几年前开始疯狂喜欢羽毛球的时候,痴迷到认为任何人都应该觉得羽毛球 - : fastest racket game in the world - 是世界上最完美的sports。甚至以1985年顶级 : 羽毛球和网球比赛的数据,说明羽毛球远比网球tough。羽毛球就是我心中的god! : 好在我还喜欢其他很多的项目,田径,足球,排球,健身。。。我开始反省自己,终于 : 意识到这是因为自己太爱,而产生的prejudice。runner因为超长距离而让身体面临极
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b***i 发帖数: 10018 | 88 身体轻的优势不只是速度,更重要的是效率。
【在 f*******n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我的意思是ultramarathon可能身体轻带来的速度优势不是那么大,要是跑不 : 下来那个距离再快也没用。 : 这里有一篇很有意思的关于ultramarathon的文章。其中说到Pam Reed如何 : 不服Dean Karnazes得到的publicity以及这里提到的一些ultra runner的故事 : 和照片。 : http://outside.away.com/outside/bodywork/200510/ultrarunners-1.html : : limit : Dean : Ultramarathoners understand that true
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e****f 发帖数: 3393 | 89 You didn't get my point. 如果说心率越低,人类越长寿,或者有绝对的benefits,
那大家都来跑马好了。问题是,对多数人,average people,这种追求extreme的东东
,benefits不是很多。相反,带来的伤害反而更多,很多人因此关节坏了,膝盖废了。
我倒是觉得,你们追求的是一种超过了运动本身的spiritual的东西,就是挑战人类的
极限。你我运动的目的不完全相同。
【在 b*********a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 你打羽毛球能打到静止心率30多下吗? Duh!
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b*********a 发帖数: 1145 | 90 对,跑马就是spiritual的东西,如果要健康根本不用跑那么多
【在 e****f 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : You didn't get my point. 如果说心率越低,人类越长寿,或者有绝对的benefits, : 那大家都来跑马好了。问题是,对多数人,average people,这种追求extreme的东东 : ,benefits不是很多。相反,带来的伤害反而更多,很多人因此关节坏了,膝盖废了。 : 我倒是觉得,你们追求的是一种超过了运动本身的spiritual的东西,就是挑战人类的 : 极限。你我运动的目的不完全相同。
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N****O 发帖数: 4202 | 91 runner追求的是快感,是endorphin,是其他一些能让人high的化学物质!!!
之所以能感觉到上帝的touch,不过是化学物质而已,spiritual也不过是化学反应而已
。。。
连爱情都可以用化学解释,跑步就更可以了。。。
其他运动也会有high,但是不如running来得极致,所以,一般追求极致的人,都会喜欢
run.
【在 e****f 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : You didn't get my point. 如果说心率越低,人类越长寿,或者有绝对的benefits, : 那大家都来跑马好了。问题是,对多数人,average people,这种追求extreme的东东 : ,benefits不是很多。相反,带来的伤害反而更多,很多人因此关节坏了,膝盖废了。 : 我倒是觉得,你们追求的是一种超过了运动本身的spiritual的东西,就是挑战人类的 : 极限。你我运动的目的不完全相同。
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e****f 发帖数: 3393 | 92 咳咳,我说诺诺,大叔不懂化学好不好?俺就知道炒菜放点油盐酱醋的化学。你说的领
域太大的,包含生物化学,精神化学,还有爱情化学。不懂!
【在 N****O 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : runner追求的是快感,是endorphin,是其他一些能让人high的化学物质!!! : 之所以能感觉到上帝的touch,不过是化学物质而已,spiritual也不过是化学反应而已 : 。。。 : 连爱情都可以用化学解释,跑步就更可以了。。。 : 其他运动也会有high,但是不如running来得极致,所以,一般追求极致的人,都会喜欢 : run.
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N****O 发帖数: 4202 | 93 呵呵,其实我也不太懂化学~~~虽然学了那么多年化学。。。
不过,你知道我是唯物主义就大概能理解我说的话了~~
【在 e****f 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 咳咳,我说诺诺,大叔不懂化学好不好?俺就知道炒菜放点油盐酱醋的化学。你说的领 : 域太大的,包含生物化学,精神化学,还有爱情化学。不懂!
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m*******r 发帖数: 13263 | 94 那有沒有人直接注射endorphin或其他?
【在 N****O 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : runner追求的是快感,是endorphin,是其他一些能让人high的化学物质!!! : 之所以能感觉到上帝的touch,不过是化学物质而已,spiritual也不过是化学反应而已 : 。。。 : 连爱情都可以用化学解释,跑步就更可以了。。。 : 其他运动也会有high,但是不如running来得极致,所以,一般追求极致的人,都会喜欢 : run.
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m*******r 发帖数: 13263 | 95 Sort of relected in your signature...
【在 b*********a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 对,跑马就是spiritual的东西,如果要健康根本不用跑那么多
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b*********a 发帖数: 1145 | 96 不如说,跑步将人带入一种spiritual world,然后可以感受到God's touch,然后导致
化学反应,Spiritual 是化学反应的原因, 而不是化学反应本身
如果试图理解runner, 应该用哲学而不是化学,Running is God is love!
【在 N****O 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : runner追求的是快感,是endorphin,是其他一些能让人high的化学物质!!! : 之所以能感觉到上帝的touch,不过是化学物质而已,spiritual也不过是化学反应而已 : 。。。 : 连爱情都可以用化学解释,跑步就更可以了。。。 : 其他运动也会有high,但是不如running来得极致,所以,一般追求极致的人,都会喜欢 : run.
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d*i 发帖数: 9453 | 97 也不一定,要能run出runner's high来,才比较能领略这种刺激和addiction。
【在 N****O 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : runner追求的是快感,是endorphin,是其他一些能让人high的化学物质!!! : 之所以能感觉到上帝的touch,不过是化学物质而已,spiritual也不过是化学反应而已 : 。。。 : 连爱情都可以用化学解释,跑步就更可以了。。。 : 其他运动也会有high,但是不如running来得极致,所以,一般追求极致的人,都会喜欢 : run.
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m*******r 发帖数: 13263 | 98 Sounds like a moving meditation...
【在 b*********a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 不如说,跑步将人带入一种spiritual world,然后可以感受到God's touch,然后导致 : 化学反应,Spiritual 是化学反应的原因, 而不是化学反应本身 : 如果试图理解runner, 应该用哲学而不是化学,Running is God is love!
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N****O 发帖数: 4202 | 99 不好意思,我上面已经说了,我是唯物主义者~
【在 b*********a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 不如说,跑步将人带入一种spiritual world,然后可以感受到God's touch,然后导致 : 化学反应,Spiritual 是化学反应的原因, 而不是化学反应本身 : 如果试图理解runner, 应该用哲学而不是化学,Running is God is love!
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m*******r 发帖数: 13263 | 100 層次還不夠,需要往高裡帶一帶……
【在 N****O 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 不好意思,我上面已经说了,我是唯物主义者~
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N****O 发帖数: 4202 | 101 endorphin是大分子,注射也没有用。注射其他兴奋剂倒是有很多的。。。
【在 m*******r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 那有沒有人直接注射endorphin或其他?
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m*******r 发帖数: 13263 | 102 那就是本地合成的咯?
【在 N****O 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : endorphin是大分子,注射也没有用。注射其他兴奋剂倒是有很多的。。。
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N****O 发帖数: 4202 | 103 我可不喜欢哲学讨论~~~因为这个关系到信仰~~~还是不要引起争端的好~~~
【在 m*******r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 層次還不夠,需要往高裡帶一帶……
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N****O 发帖数: 4202 | 104 恩,endo就是endogenous 的意思~
【在 m*******r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 那就是本地合成的咯?
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N****O 发帖数: 4202 | 105 对啊,所以我说要run到极致啊~~
【在 d*i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 也不一定,要能run出runner's high来,才比较能领略这种刺激和addiction。
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w****1 发帖数: 4931 | 106 LOL. I'm an atheist as well. But I tell ya, when I rode my bike up
independence pass at 12,000 ft last summer,
when I was running at mile 45 in Nevada this January, I felt, without a
shadow of a doubt, the touch of God.:)
【在 N****O 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 不好意思,我上面已经说了,我是唯物主义者~
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m*******r 发帖数: 13263 | 107 等我腳好了以後也去跑一下,看能不能在累死之前能達到極致……
【在 N****O 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 对啊,所以我说要run到极致啊~~
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N****O 发帖数: 4202 | 108 人类都是复杂而弱小的嘛,我们怎么可能完全控制自己的思想?~~
有时候我还能感觉the touch of evil呢...思想被身体控制了而已~~
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : LOL. I'm an atheist as well. But I tell ya, when I rode my bike up : independence pass at 12,000 ft last summer, : when I was running at mile 45 in Nevada this January, I felt, without a : shadow of a doubt, the touch of God.:)
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w****1 发帖数: 4931 | 109 please, it's not amusing any more once you put it that way. can't you tell
when I'm serious and when I'm
joking?
【在 N****O 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 人类都是复杂而弱小的嘛,我们怎么可能完全控制自己的思想?~~ : 有时候我还能感觉the touch of evil呢...思想被身体控制了而已~~
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N****O 发帖数: 4202 | 110 SERIOUSLY,I CAN'T TELL...
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : please, it's not amusing any more once you put it that way. can't you tell : when I'm serious and when I'm : joking?
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v****e 发帖数: 19471 | 111 诺诺,J女的比较高维修,你得再细腻点儿。。。
【在 N****O 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : SERIOUSLY,I CAN'T TELL...
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N****O 发帖数: 4202 | 112 算了,我承认吧,我跑步的时候喜欢听恩雅的歌,因为有够SPIRITUAL....
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : please, it's not amusing any more once you put it that way. can't you tell : when I'm serious and when I'm : joking?
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N****O 发帖数: 4202 | 113 J女的?谁?
【在 v****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 诺诺,J女的比较高维修,你得再细腻点儿。。。
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w****1 发帖数: 4931 | 114 afterall, biologically, the touch of god simply means that a certain part of
our brain is being stimulated in a
certain way. from this perspective, obviously, there is nothing grand or
noble about it. but we are human. we
like certain parts of our body to look a certain way, we like certain cells
in our body to grow bigger than other
cells, some of us like to wrap themselves in sheets that reflect a certain
part of the spectrum of
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N****O 发帖数: 4202 | 115 嗬嗬~无所谓~~
大家思维方式不一样而已~~~
of
cells
like
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : afterall, biologically, the touch of god simply means that a certain part of : our brain is being stimulated in a : certain way. from this perspective, obviously, there is nothing grand or : noble about it. but we are human. we : like certain parts of our body to look a certain way, we like certain cells : in our body to grow bigger than other : cells, some of us like to wrap themselves in sheets that reflect a certain : part of the spectrum of : electromagnetic waves more than other parts of the spectrum, some
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N****O 发帖数: 4202 | 116 我家ld也喜欢羽毛球,超喜欢,比喜欢我还喜欢~~~
他经常因为这个被我藐视,因为他虽然喜欢球类运动,但是坏胆固醇很高,而且长跑不过我~~~
不过他也经常藐视我,说我就知道跑步游泳做苦力,其实一点运动天赋都没有~~~
【在 e****f 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 嘿嘿,和你抬抬杠。你对自己喜爱的项目达到如痴如迷,甚至爱屋及乌的地步,任何一 : 个曾经对某种运动痴迷的人,都是可以体会和理解的。 : 但是,萝卜青菜,各有所爱。每个人有不同的特质,生理上的长处和短处,对不同的运 : 动肯定喜欢和排斥的程度不同。运动项目的prejudice,其实就是爱好者自己,根据自 : 己的经验,以自己的喜好作为参照物的产物。 : 我10几年前开始疯狂喜欢羽毛球的时候,痴迷到认为任何人都应该觉得羽毛球 - : fastest racket game in the world - 是世界上最完美的sports。甚至以1985年顶级 : 羽毛球和网球比赛的数据,说明羽毛球远比网球tough。羽毛球就是我心中的god! : 好在我还喜欢其他很多的项目,田径,足球,排球,健身。。。我开始反省自己,终于 : 意识到这是因为自己太爱,而产生的prejudice。runner因为超长距离而让身体面临极
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m*******r 发帖数: 13263 | 117 that sounds impossible a, exactly like me...
lol, I like badminton more than you, too.
不过我~~~
【在 N****O 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我家ld也喜欢羽毛球,超喜欢,比喜欢我还喜欢~~~ : 他经常因为这个被我藐视,因为他虽然喜欢球类运动,但是坏胆固醇很高,而且长跑不过我~~~ : 不过他也经常藐视我,说我就知道跑步游泳做苦力,其实一点运动天赋都没有~~~
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w****1 发帖数: 4931 | 118 psh, badminton? come on. you can't seriously ask people to respect a...
badminton player, can you? this is
america. we love hard punching, body throwing, ankle breaking, lung busting
sports. football, MMA,
marathons, and ironman. please, not badminton. :)
不过我~~~
【在 N****O 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我家ld也喜欢羽毛球,超喜欢,比喜欢我还喜欢~~~ : 他经常因为这个被我藐视,因为他虽然喜欢球类运动,但是坏胆固醇很高,而且长跑不过我~~~ : 不过他也经常藐视我,说我就知道跑步游泳做苦力,其实一点运动天赋都没有~~~
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m*******r 发帖数: 13263 | 119 I am wearing an iron boot now, almost broke my ankle playing with some yound
kids. Sigh, old now.
busting
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : psh, badminton? come on. you can't seriously ask people to respect a... : badminton player, can you? this is : america. we love hard punching, body throwing, ankle breaking, lung busting : sports. football, MMA, : marathons, and ironman. please, not badminton. :) : : 不过我~~~
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N****O 发帖数: 4202 | 120 自己喜欢什么,关别人什么事呢~~
再说我家LD又不是只打羽毛球,他也玩网球和高尔夫的,只是羽毛球打得比其他好而已~
busting
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : psh, badminton? come on. you can't seriously ask people to respect a... : badminton player, can you? this is : america. we love hard punching, body throwing, ankle breaking, lung busting : sports. football, MMA, : marathons, and ironman. please, not badminton. :) : : 不过我~~~
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g*******1 发帖数: 8758 | 121 i think he was joking this time@@
自己喜欢什么,关别人什么事呢~~
再说我家LD又不是只打羽毛球,他也玩网球和高尔夫的,只是羽毛球打得比其他好而已~
busting
【在 N****O 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 自己喜欢什么,关别人什么事呢~~ : 再说我家LD又不是只打羽毛球,他也玩网球和高尔夫的,只是羽毛球打得比其他好而已~ : : busting
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N****O 发帖数: 4202 | 122 我知道~我也没有be serious...
已~
【在 g*******1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : i think he was joking this time@@ : : 自己喜欢什么,关别人什么事呢~~ : 再说我家LD又不是只打羽毛球,他也玩网球和高尔夫的,只是羽毛球打得比其他好而已~ : busting
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l******u 发帖数: 3169 | 123 我刚想发个帖子说大家英语真好,后来往前一翻才发现已经发过了。。。 |
l******u 发帖数: 3169 | 124 28beats???????冬眠中?orz
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : She weighs 104 lb, eats 5000 calories a day, and her resting heart rate is : 28 beats per minute.
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l******u 发帖数: 3169 | 125 敬仰一下糊涂哥,很感动的说。。。
【在 e****f 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 啊哈,知糊涂者肥猫耶。。。just kidding。 : 俺从初中开始每天早晨起来练长跑。那个时候根本不懂运动保健知识,父母也没办法指 : 导。起来喝点水,就开始跑。练了几年才练成那么点肺活量,真的是很惭愧。要是那时 : 侯知道补充点糖,锻炼后加强营养,至少现在会结实得多。
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l******u 发帖数: 3169 | 126 你也很牛!orz
years
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : It's clearly the result of training. I've been running regularly for 9 years : , and my rest heart rate can be as low : as 39. When I was a kid my heart rate was just like every other kid in : school.
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e****f 发帖数: 3393 | 127 dude, you are too serious!
-moonriver
I have to say, one can not know how tough a game is until he seriously tried. A 10-yr old girl in our club can simply beat an average adult on the court no matter he's a football player, boxer, marathoner or whatever, if one dares to try.
Badminton is NOT the back-yard girly game as some stupid,self-centered,
arrogant,and ignorant American thought. LOL.
busting
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : psh, badminton? come on. you can't seriously ask people to respect a... : badminton player, can you? this is : america. we love hard punching, body throwing, ankle breaking, lung busting : sports. football, MMA, : marathons, and ironman. please, not badminton. :) : : 不过我~~~
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e****f 发帖数: 3393 | 128 跑跳是很多运动项目的基础。光练球不练跑跳基本功,不提高心肺能力,到一定层次就很难提高综合球技了。
BTW, 你家GG好大胆!俺直哆嗦。。。
不过我~~~
【在 N****O 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我家ld也喜欢羽毛球,超喜欢,比喜欢我还喜欢~~~ : 他经常因为这个被我藐视,因为他虽然喜欢球类运动,但是坏胆固醇很高,而且长跑不过我~~~ : 不过他也经常藐视我,说我就知道跑步游泳做苦力,其实一点运动天赋都没有~~~
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m*******r 发帖数: 13263 | 129 yeah, take my lesson. Given enough time, NoNoNo will beat him easily in the
court. :)
就很难提高综合球技了。
【在 e****f 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 跑跳是很多运动项目的基础。光练球不练跑跳基本功,不提高心肺能力,到一定层次就很难提高综合球技了。 : BTW, 你家GG好大胆!俺直哆嗦。。。 : : 不过我~~~
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z*****a 发帖数: 9790 | 130 他不是很牛,他根本就是野兽,如果你知道他跑多快的话。
【在 l******u 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 你也很牛!orz : : years
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e****f 发帖数: 3393 | 131 sub-3hr?
【在 z*****a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 他不是很牛,他根本就是野兽,如果你知道他跑多快的话。
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z*****a 发帖数: 9790 | 132 don't remember his marathon pr, but i know he's just done a 18min 5k.
【在 e****f 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : sub-3hr?
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e****f 发帖数: 3393 | 133 嗯,不错。差点可以达到中国田径三级运动员标准。
【在 z*****a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : don't remember his marathon pr, but i know he's just done a 18min 5k.
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w****1 发帖数: 4931 | 134 My PR is 3:11:17, 18 seconds short of qualifying for Boston marathon. It's
not fast, but it is a big improvement from my first marathon (4:27) years
ago.:) My goal this year is to break 3 hours.
【在 z*****a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : don't remember his marathon pr, but i know he's just done a 18min 5k.
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b***i 发帖数: 10018 | 135 按照马拉松的标准,他差几秒就可以达到二级了
【在 e****f 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 嗯,不错。差点可以达到中国田径三级运动员标准。
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m*******r 发帖数: 13263 | 136 Do all marathon runners have a heart rate of ~30 or similar?
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : My PR is 3:11:17, 18 seconds short of qualifying for Boston marathon. It's : not fast, but it is a big improvement from my first marathon (4:27) years : ago.:) My goal this year is to break 3 hours.
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w****1 发帖数: 4931 | 137 For elite marathoners it's mostly around 35 or lower. Somewhat higher for
amateurs of course. The rest heart rate is not an absolute standard of
measuring the strength of the heart, of course. Some people are naturally
born with a slower heart rate, some people faster. One should also take into
account the person's maximal heart rate.
【在 m*******r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Do all marathon runners have a heart rate of ~30 or similar?
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e****f 发帖数: 3393 | 138 已经很牛了。突破3:10:00就是国家二级了。
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : My PR is 3:11:17, 18 seconds short of qualifying for Boston marathon. It's : not fast, but it is a big improvement from my first marathon (4:27) years : ago.:) My goal this year is to break 3 hours.
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N****O 发帖数: 4202 | 139 我发现了,跑马牛人从来都是用英文发帖子的~~!!!
再一次印证了我的观点:运动可以让人变得聪明,记忆力好,学习能力强。。。
【在 m*******r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Do all marathon runners have a heart rate of ~30 or similar?
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e****f 发帖数: 3393 | 140 哈哈哈,吃完饭了吗?
【在 N****O 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我发现了,跑马牛人从来都是用英文发帖子的~~!!! : 再一次印证了我的观点:运动可以让人变得聪明,记忆力好,学习能力强。。。
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m*******r 发帖数: 13263 | 141 I run like a turtle...that's why I was beaten on the badminton court by my
lady colleague...
【在 N****O 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我发现了,跑马牛人从来都是用英文发帖子的~~!!! : 再一次印证了我的观点:运动可以让人变得聪明,记忆力好,学习能力强。。。
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b***i 发帖数: 10018 | 142 To add more, Lactate Threshold Heart Rate is also important in sports
requiring endurance.
for example, a normal guy A's LTHR is at 85% of his max HR, another athlete
B's LTHR is at 92% of his max HR.
When both are doing some sports with 90% of their max HR, A may find it very
tiring, while B is just cruising along comfortably.
into
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : For elite marathoners it's mostly around 35 or lower. Somewhat higher for : amateurs of course. The rest heart rate is not an absolute standard of : measuring the strength of the heart, of course. Some people are naturally : born with a slower heart rate, some people faster. One should also take into : account the person's maximal heart rate.
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e****f 发帖数: 3393 | 143 这个看懂了,还好俺不是彻底的没文化人。
有点好奇,这个LTHR需要特殊的仪器才能测出来,对吧?
athlete
very
【在 b***i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : To add more, Lactate Threshold Heart Rate is also important in sports : requiring endurance. : for example, a normal guy A's LTHR is at 85% of his max HR, another athlete : B's LTHR is at 92% of his max HR. : When both are doing some sports with 90% of their max HR, A may find it very : tiring, while B is just cruising along comfortably. : : into
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b***i 发帖数: 10018 | 144 对于跑步者来说,心率计就可以了。
在一个气温湿度坡度地表不要变化太大的环境,在你没有伤病或者脱水的前提下,
如果你能维持一个速度跑一个小时,心跳在稳定以后就没怎么飙升,这个心跳就在LTHR
之下
【在 e****f 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这个看懂了,还好俺不是彻底的没文化人。 : 有点好奇,这个LTHR需要特殊的仪器才能测出来,对吧? : : athlete : very
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e****f 发帖数: 3393 | 145 看样子 ,这个可以在跑步机上测试。多谢白版主解释。
LTHR
【在 b***i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 对于跑步者来说,心率计就可以了。 : 在一个气温湿度坡度地表不要变化太大的环境,在你没有伤病或者脱水的前提下, : 如果你能维持一个速度跑一个小时,心跳在稳定以后就没怎么飙升,这个心跳就在LTHR : 之下
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N****O 发帖数: 4202 | 146 LTHR越高越牛?
我90%呢。。。
【在 e****f 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 看样子 ,这个可以在跑步机上测试。多谢白版主解释。 : : LTHR
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e****f 发帖数: 3393 | 147 按我的理解,这个心跳就是乳酸开始堆积时的门槛threshold心跳。越高,表示你在那
个负荷下有氧能力还可以应付自如,没有乳酸堆积。缺乏锻炼的人,稍稍一动就累了,
经常动的人可能那个心跳热身还没够, 所以这个LTHR越高越牛。
不知道这样理解对否?
【在 N****O 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : LTHR越高越牛? : 我90%呢。。。
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z*****a 发帖数: 9790 | 148 LTHR要结合MAX HR来看
【在 e****f 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 按我的理解,这个心跳就是乳酸开始堆积时的门槛threshold心跳。越高,表示你在那 : 个负荷下有氧能力还可以应付自如,没有乳酸堆积。缺乏锻炼的人,稍稍一动就累了, : 经常动的人可能那个心跳热身还没够, 所以这个LTHR越高越牛。 : 不知道这样理解对否?
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e****f 发帖数: 3393 | 149 对对,都是相对于自身的MHR。
【在 z*****a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : LTHR要结合MAX HR来看
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