c******I
发帖数: 67 | 1 ic 4 SW, iOS development, 1.5 years employment, worked on many weekends and
also long hours
got $0 refresh
The manager said it was because the sign-on ($50K) was too high.
So upset, made more in the previous job
Is there anything i can do to get some RSU? |
y**********u
发帖数: 2839 | 2 刷题走人
[在 cuckoooI (cuck000I) 的大作中提到：]
:ic 4 SW, iOS development, 1.5 years employment, worked on many weekends and
also long hours
:got $0 refresh
:The manager said it was because the sign-on ($50K) was too high.
:So upset, made more in the previous job
:Is there anything i can do to get some? |
c******I
发帖数: 67 | 3 Yeah, but 1.5 years of hard work = $0, feel so unfair and deceived
and
【在 y**********u 的大作中提到】
: 刷题走人
: [在 cuckoooI (cuck000I) 的大作中提到：]
: :ic 4 SW, iOS development, 1.5 years employment, worked on many weekends and
: also long hours
: :got $0 refresh
: :The manager said it was because the sign-on ($50K) was too high.
: :So upset, made more in the previous job
: :Is there anything i can do to get some?
|
y**********u
发帖数: 2839 | 4 理解，不怕兄弟笑话，我以前焊板子的公司，都没听说过啥叫refresh，也不知道有些
公司年底还有cash bonus……
【在 c******I 的大作中提到】
: Yeah, but 1.5 years of hard work = $0, feel so unfair and deceived
:
: and
|
y**********u
发帖数: 2839 | 5 果果现在是这样的，craig下面每年只有60%的人有refresh，你可能很不幸，在40%里面
……
next nokia，没啥好待的，走吧 |
c******I
发帖数: 67 | 6 果家, Recruiter said there would be refreshing rsu. Everyone on the board
said
the same thing. Now the result is shocking and super disappointing.
In a so-called good group. Have used X for a long time.
【在 y**********u 的大作中提到】
: 理解，不怕兄弟笑话，我以前焊板子的公司，都没听说过啥叫refresh，也不知道有些
: 公司年底还有cash bonus……
|
c******I
发帖数: 67 | 7 Yeah, craig's. Do you know if the manager is the person who made such a
decision?
【在 y**********u 的大作中提到】
: 果果现在是这样的，craig下面每年只有60%的人有refresh，你可能很不幸，在40%里面
: ……
: next nokia，没啥好待的，走吧
|
y**********u
发帖数: 2839 | 8 > In a so-called good group. Have used X for a long time.
都是虚的，没啥用，到手的cash最重要，兄弟说对不对
recruiter要是当时就告诉你，40%没有refresh，估计招不到人了吧，你签了offer，就
只能任人宰割，recruiter不会再看你一眼的
和硬件相关的行业，真是没有安全感，感觉命运时刻掌握在别人手里。还是千题在手，
到哪都是吃香喝辣，抓XXX
【在 c******I 的大作中提到】
: 果家, Recruiter said there would be refreshing rsu. Everyone on the board
: said
: the same thing. Now the result is shocking and super disappointing.
: In a so-called good group. Have used X for a long time.
|
H**********5
发帖数: 2012 | 9 this time I todali aglee widi u
: 刷题走人
: [在 cuckoooI (cuck000I) 的大作中提到：]
: :ic 4 SW, iOS development, 1.5 years employment, worked on many
weekends and
: also long hours
: :got $0 refresh
: :The manager said it was because the sign-on ($50K) was too high.
: :So upset, made more in the previous job
: :Is there anything i can do to get some?
【在 y**********u 的大作中提到】
: > In a so-called good group. Have used X for a long time.
: 都是虚的，没啥用，到手的cash最重要，兄弟说对不对
: recruiter要是当时就告诉你，40%没有refresh，估计招不到人了吧，你签了offer，就
: 只能任人宰割，recruiter不会再看你一眼的
: 和硬件相关的行业，真是没有安全感，感觉命运时刻掌握在别人手里。还是千题在手，
: 到哪都是吃香喝辣，抓XXX
|
y**********u
发帖数: 2839 | 10 我不在果果，但是以前一起焊板子的兄弟在。据说是所有manager最后坐在一起，瓜分
大部门下的refresh，看谁争取的多。然后manager再决定怎么分给手底下的人。你有没
有，应该是你的direct mgr决定的
理解你的心情，休息两天，move on吧，早日找个好坑，把命运掌握在自己手里
【在 c******I 的大作中提到】
: Yeah, craig's. Do you know if the manager is the person who made such a
: decision?
|
|
|
y**********u
发帖数: 2839 | 11 谢谢，爱你
【在 H**********5 的大作中提到】
: this time I todali aglee widi u
:
:
: 刷题走人
:
: [在 cuckoooI (cuck000I) 的大作中提到：]
:
: :ic 4 SW, iOS development, 1.5 years employment, worked on many
: weekends and
:
: also long hours
:
: :got $0 refresh
:
: :The manager said it was because the sign-on ($50K) was too high.
:
: :So upset, made more in the previous job
|
c******I
发帖数: 67 | 12 Thanks, you are right. I didn't expect this result at all. Totally shocking.
Worked almost every weekend during the crunch time. Very stressful. Now I
got nothing, but a lot of white hair.
【在 y**********u 的大作中提到】
: > In a so-called good group. Have used X for a long time.
: 都是虚的，没啥用，到手的cash最重要，兄弟说对不对
: recruiter要是当时就告诉你，40%没有refresh，估计招不到人了吧，你签了offer，就
: 只能任人宰割，recruiter不会再看你一眼的
: 和硬件相关的行业，真是没有安全感，感觉命运时刻掌握在别人手里。还是千题在手，
: 到哪都是吃香喝辣，抓XXX
|
y**********u
发帖数: 2839 | 13 唉，看着真是难受…… 怎么说呢，兄弟这么努力，应该去一个多干多得的地方。有时
候，选择可能比努力更重要
好心塞，出去抽根烟
shocking.
I
【在 c******I 的大作中提到】
: Thanks, you are right. I didn't expect this result at all. Totally shocking.
: Worked almost every weekend during the crunch time. Very stressful. Now I
: got nothing, but a lot of white hair.
|
f*****n
发帖数: 2126 | 14 50k or 500k ? 兄弟，说clear |
y**********u
发帖数: 2839 | 15 不重要，兄弟别多想了，休息两天调整调整。需要帮忙站内
爱你
【在 f*****n 的大作中提到】
: 50k or 500k ? 兄弟，说clear
|
c******I
发帖数: 67 | 16 I was a stupid long-time fan of A. Thought my hard work would get rewarded.
Totally wrong.
【在 y**********u 的大作中提到】
: 唉，看着真是难受…… 怎么说呢，兄弟这么努力，应该去一个多干多得的地方。有时
: 候，选择可能比努力更重要
: 好心塞，出去抽根烟
:
: shocking.
: I
|
c******I
发帖数: 67 | 17 50000 or 50k. The manager is new. He said he had never seen such a high sign
-on before....So no refresh for me.
【在 f*****n 的大作中提到】
: 50k or 500k ? 兄弟，说clear
|
y**********u
发帖数: 2839 | 18 5w也算多？看来果果真是日落西山了啊，走吧，没啥好留恋的了
sign
【在 c******I 的大作中提到】
: 50000 or 50k. The manager is new. He said he had never seen such a high sign
: -on before....So no refresh for me.
|
i*******s
发帖数: 298 | 19 tell manager: that is fucking 1 and half years ago. still counting that?
sign
【在 c******I 的大作中提到】
: 50000 or 50k. The manager is new. He said he had never seen such a high sign
: -on before....So no refresh for me.
|
c******I
发帖数: 67 | 20 50K is unbelievably high to the manager. At least that is his excuse.
He even spent half an hour discussing about my future - moving to ic5 in 2
years. Just bullshit.
【在 y**********u 的大作中提到】
: 5w也算多？看来果果真是日落西山了啊，走吧，没啥好留恋的了
:
: sign
|
|
|
c******I
发帖数: 67 | 21 I should have said that. But then I was so shocked and upset that I forgot
to say it.
【在 i*******s 的大作中提到】
: tell manager: that is fucking 1 and half years ago. still counting that?
:
: sign
|
y**********u
发帖数: 2839 | 22 两年之后他都不一定在这了，这种胡萝卜太虚了，估计兄弟干活给力，他没啥借口，只
能拿signon说事，太low了
2
【在 c******I 的大作中提到】
: 50K is unbelievably high to the manager. At least that is his excuse.
: He even spent half an hour discussing about my future - moving to ic5 in 2
: years. Just bullshit.
|
c******I
发帖数: 67 | 23 He won't leave. He just came back 1 year ago. Due to re-org, i was no longer
with the manager who hired me.
【在 y**********u 的大作中提到】
: 两年之后他都不一定在这了，这种胡萝卜太虚了，估计兄弟干活给力，他没啥借口，只
: 能拿signon说事，太low了
:
: 2
|
y**********u
发帖数: 2839 | 24 那岂不是好尴尬，人生好难啊
longer
【在 c******I 的大作中提到】
: He won't leave. He just came back 1 year ago. Due to re-org, i was no longer
: with the manager who hired me.
|
c******I
发帖数: 67 | 25 Yeah, life is hard, especially when you have a family to support and when
you are no longer young.
【在 y**********u 的大作中提到】
: 那岂不是好尴尬，人生好难啊
:
: longer
|
y**********u
发帖数: 2839 | 26 谁说不是呢…
[在 cuckoooI (cuck000I) 的大作中提到：]
:Yeah, life is hard, especially when you have a family to support and when
:you are no longer young. |
H**********5
发帖数: 2012 | 27 ye，在美国，承诺/画大饼，都不要信。到手现金为王。
我同一家公司换了4个老板，有的老板自己都待不了一年，能实现鸟的承诺嗷。有的干
了几年我一来就要跳。其实想想公司hr真太可笑了，要求求职者绿卡公民一大堆要求，
要能够长期稳定工作；反过来自己公司都不一定能撑过1，2年。一个产品做砸了公司就
完蛋。
: 两年之后他都不一定在这了，这种胡萝卜太虚了，估计兄弟干活给力，他没啥借
口，只
: 能拿signon说事，太low了
: 2
【在 y**********u 的大作中提到】
: 谁说不是呢…
: [在 cuckoooI (cuck000I) 的大作中提到：]
: :Yeah, life is hard, especially when you have a family to support and when
: :you are no longer young.
|
t***s
发帖数: 4666 | 28 How much was your initial RSU when join? I did hear they’ll consider
current unvested RSU into account. But use cash sign-on as an excuse? That’
s too low.
and
【在 c******I 的大作中提到】
: ic 4 SW, iOS development, 1.5 years employment, worked on many weekends and
: also long hours
: got $0 refresh
: The manager said it was because the sign-on ($50K) was too high.
: So upset, made more in the previous job
: Is there anything i can do to get some RSU?
|
c******I
发帖数: 67 | 29 not much. a little over 200k for 15+ years of experience
【在 t***s 的大作中提到】
: How much was your initial RSU when join? I did hear they’ll consider
: current unvested RSU into account. But use cash sign-on as an excuse? That’
: s too low.
:
: and
|
i*******s
发帖数: 298 | 30 that looks normal for ios level 4
【在 c******I 的大作中提到】
: not much. a little over 200k for 15+ years of experience
|
|
|
y**********u
发帖数: 2839 | 31 日了，看来系统软件真是死路一条啊，人世间最悲惨的是啥，到了sr的年纪，拿着
fresh的package，omg，做题，他奶奶的
【在 c******I 的大作中提到】
: not much. a little over 200k for 15+ years of experience
|
c******I
发帖数: 67 | 32 yes, but the manager made a big fuss over it during the review
【在 i*******s 的大作中提到】
: that looks normal for ios level 4
|
t***s
发帖数: 4666 | 33 据说今年整个RSU pool 就小。
【在 y**********u 的大作中提到】
: 日了，看来系统软件真是死路一条啊，人世间最悲惨的是啥，到了sr的年纪，拿着
: fresh的package，omg，做题，他奶奶的
|
y**********u
发帖数: 2839 | 34 是因为iphone做太丑了吗？帮主泉下有知，会气得活过来的吧
【在 t***s 的大作中提到】
: 据说今年整个RSU pool 就小。
|
t***s
发帖数: 4666 | 35 换组或者跳槽吧。据说RSU 的标准主要看retention，而不是performance. 你工资涨了
多少，cash bonus 多少？
【在 c******I 的大作中提到】
: yes, but the manager made a big fuss over it during the review
|
c******I
发帖数: 67 | 36 yes, I am old, and had a well-paid and well-respected job before. Well, I
wanted to try A before I can't move any more. Now I got nothing from the
hard work.
The manager is 10 years younger. For some reason he thinks I got paid so
well already.
【在 y**********u 的大作中提到】
: 日了，看来系统软件真是死路一条啊，人世间最悲惨的是啥，到了sr的年纪，拿着
: fresh的package，omg，做题，他奶奶的
|
z*******o
发帖数: 4773 | 37 行业就这样, ios在行业是数一还是数二?
领头的都这样, 转到哪里都差不了太多... |
y**********u
发帖数: 2839 | 38 连系统软件部门都歧视老帮菜，我们真是没法活了。赶紧刷题转码，整几个投资房，再
也不怕pip，没有refresh，唉，都是泪
【在 c******I 的大作中提到】
: yes, I am old, and had a well-paid and well-respected job before. Well, I
: wanted to try A before I can't move any more. Now I got nothing from the
: hard work.
: The manager is 10 years younger. For some reason he thinks I got paid so
: well already.
|
z*******o
发帖数: 4773 | 39 lz不已经是码了吗?还怎么刷题转码?
只能刷老鼠转千老了
【在 y**********u 的大作中提到】
: 连系统软件部门都歧视老帮菜，我们真是没法活了。赶紧刷题转码，整几个投资房，再
: 也不怕pip，没有refresh，唉，都是泪
|
c******I
发帖数: 67 | 40 salary 2.5% increase, little bonus 9% , not worth mentioning
【在 t***s 的大作中提到】
: 换组或者跳槽吧。据说RSU 的标准主要看retention，而不是performance. 你工资涨了
: 多少，cash bonus 多少？
|
|
|
y**********u
发帖数: 2839 | 41 sys sw也是掉在hw的烂坑里了，你说咋整
【在 z*******o 的大作中提到】
: lz不已经是码了吗?还怎么刷题转码?
: 只能刷老鼠转千老了
|
f******s
发帖数: 713 | 42 我比你还低，2%increase, 经理说我的base 比别人高所以只有2%，天知道是不是谎言
【在 c******I 的大作中提到】
: salary 2.5% increase, little bonus 9% , not worth mentioning
|
c******I
发帖数: 67 | 43 You are young and will have lots of opportunities to make more money. I am
sad for having to change my job again.
【在 f******s 的大作中提到】
: 我比你还低，2%increase, 经理说我的base 比别人高所以只有2%，天知道是不是谎言
|
y**********u
发帖数: 2839 | 44 为什么呢？因为这个行业就是这行情，外面人排长队想进来，说不定给一半的钱就work
like a donkey，你说你有啥竞争力
【在 f******s 的大作中提到】
: 我比你还低，2%increase, 经理说我的base 比别人高所以只有2%，天知道是不是谎言
|
z*******o
发帖数: 4773 | 45 是的,
外面人都要刷题转码, 让马工无码可码
work
【在 y**********u 的大作中提到】
: 为什么呢？因为这个行业就是这行情，外面人排长队想进来，说不定给一半的钱就work
: like a donkey，你说你有啥竞争力
|
f******s
发帖数: 713 | 46 这个不能同意，我虽然只有几年经验，但是专家，老板们承认没我许多东西玩不转
work
【在 y**********u 的大作中提到】
: 为什么呢？因为这个行业就是这行情，外面人排长队想进来，说不定给一半的钱就work
: like a donkey，你说你有啥竞争力
|
y**********u
发帖数: 2839 | 47 太惨了，从今天起，每天多做3道题，干他娘的
【在 z*******o 的大作中提到】
: 是的,
: 外面人都要刷题转码, 让马工无码可码
:
: work
|
y**********u
发帖数: 2839 | 48 兄弟说的是，人各有痔，我只看到手的cash，其他的，就不多想了
【在 f******s 的大作中提到】
: 这个不能同意，我虽然只有几年经验，但是专家，老板们承认没我许多东西玩不转
:
: work
|
f******s
发帖数: 713 | 49 我有点觉得本来我老板是组里的技术专家，大家都听他的，我来了大家开始听我的，我
老板表明上夸，没准心里恨着很，有啥方法试探一下就好了
【在 f******s 的大作中提到】
: 这个不能同意，我虽然只有几年经验，但是专家，老板们承认没我许多东西玩不转
:
: work
|
y**********u
发帖数: 2839 | 50 加油，与人斗其乐无穷
【在 f******s 的大作中提到】
: 我有点觉得本来我老板是组里的技术专家，大家都听他的，我来了大家开始听我的，我
: 老板表明上夸，没准心里恨着很，有啥方法试探一下就好了
|
|
|
z*******o
发帖数: 4773 | 51 我觉得要不要换下思路?
现在布局其他行业, 比如刷老鼠转千老,
估计码工很快不行了.
【在 y**********u 的大作中提到】
: 太惨了，从今天起，每天多做3道题，干他娘的
|
y**********u
发帖数: 2839 | 52 门槛太高了，别说我没老鼠，给我老鼠，我也只会烤串啊……
【在 z*******o 的大作中提到】
: 我觉得要不要换下思路?
: 现在布局其他行业, 比如刷老鼠转千老,
: 估计码工很快不行了.
|
i*******s
发帖数: 298 | 53 养只猫让他帮你抓老鼠
【在 y**********u 的大作中提到】
: 门槛太高了，别说我没老鼠，给我老鼠，我也只会烤串啊……
|
S*******u
发帖数: 727 | 54 其实招啥GC，CITIZEN还不如招H1B呢，H1B至少干活几年。GC和CITIZEN一不高兴就跳走。
我最近老想着去年回国度假时应该跟我那当老板开公司的好朋友一起想想再规划个啥项
目。
打工就是被人欺，老实人更是受气。各个公司都是鸟人当道。
公司产品这个东西，有些OWNER就是一叶障目。前公司那个OWNER就是自己非要自己投资
搞个PRODUCT。各个部门的人都知道他那种做法就是把钱扔进大海，但是谁给不敢跟他
挑明。
而且都是他自己一天想到要怎样就怎样，也没BUDGET，一会儿踢人走，一会儿招个人。
到时估计产品不能像他自己划的饼那样，估计又要拿人出气，把人踢走。
【在 H**********5 的大作中提到】
: ye，在美国，承诺/画大饼，都不要信。到手现金为王。
: 我同一家公司换了4个老板，有的老板自己都待不了一年，能实现鸟的承诺嗷。有的干
: 了几年我一来就要跳。其实想想公司hr真太可笑了，要求求职者绿卡公民一大堆要求，
: 要能够长期稳定工作；反过来自己公司都不一定能撑过1，2年。一个产品做砸了公司就
: 完蛋。
:
:
: 两年之后他都不一定在这了，这种胡萝卜太虚了，估计兄弟干活给力，他没啥借
: 口，只
:
: 能拿signon说事，太low了
:
: 2
|
H****i
发帖数: 728 | 55 $0 RSU means you are in bottom 10% in your group. Not in my opinion but in
your manager’s.
In general, bottom 10% would be in document coaching ( PIP) very soon.
If I were you, I would start looking now. |
n*******n
发帖数: 120 | 56 准备找工作吧，很不好的兆头
[在 cuckoooI (cuck000I) 的大作中提到：]
:Thanks, you are right. I didn't expect this result at all. Totally
shocking. Worked almost every weekend during the crunch time. Very
stressful. Now I got nothing, but a lot of white hair. |
t*******c
发帖数: 306 | 57 bottom 10%, 老板还跟他说准备过一两年给他promote到level5？ 还和他找借口说是因
为他一年半前signon拿太多了所以这次不给refresh RSU了？
楼主要是review 说performance不好还为啥对refresh RSU有那么多期待还要去和老板
argue RSU？
更何况楼主周末晚上也都是加班加点的，work so hard就是为了期待refresh RSU，这
对吗？
【在 H****i 的大作中提到】
: $0 RSU means you are in bottom 10% in your group. Not in my opinion but in
: your manager’s.
: In general, bottom 10% would be in document coaching ( PIP) very soon.
: If I were you, I would start looking now.
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f***k
发帖数: 432 | 58 老板是烙印？你的review是meet 还是exceed？
shocking.
I
【在 c******I 的大作中提到】
: Thanks, you are right. I didn't expect this result at all. Totally shocking.
: Worked almost every weekend during the crunch time. Very stressful. Now I
: got nothing, but a lot of white hair.
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H****i
发帖数: 728 | 59 你说的可能都是对的，
但是$0 RSU就是铁铁的bottom 10%
周末晚上加班做的再辛苦，和是不是meet manager expectation是不是deliver goal没
有必然联系
我只是根据楼主的描述做出我的判断
【在 t*******c 的大作中提到】
: bottom 10%, 老板还跟他说准备过一两年给他promote到level5？ 还和他找借口说是因
: 为他一年半前signon拿太多了所以这次不给refresh RSU了？
: 楼主要是review 说performance不好还为啥对refresh RSU有那么多期待还要去和老板
: argue RSU？
: 更何况楼主周末晚上也都是加班加点的，work so hard就是为了期待refresh RSU，这
: 对吗？
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c******I
发帖数: 67 | 60 No PIP, not at all. Reviews are very good. The only thing I need to work on
is leadership. I already started working on this.
Many times he mentioned that I got paid too much. I got in when the stock
was cheap. He was looking at my offer and considering all the RSUs in
current value. The truth is that I already sold the vested RSUs last year
and this year (bad decisions!).
I architectured a core component of the phone and got really good feedback.
Other groups proposed to adopt my design or way of thinking. I was invited
to give a technical talk which was well received.
It is possible the manger makes less than me. He constantly mentions he has
"Never" seen someone got such a high sign-on bonus etc. Maybe he is unaware
of the current compensation numbers. He puts me on the promo list and wants
me to lead. How ironic!
【在 H****i 的大作中提到】
: $0 RSU means you are in bottom 10% in your group. Not in my opinion but in
: your manager’s.
: In general, bottom 10% would be in document coaching ( PIP) very soon.
: If I were you, I would start looking now.
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m*a
发帖数: 464 | 61 Bullshit . Find a new job. Then tell your manager fuck off.
on
.
invited
has
【在 c******I 的大作中提到】
: No PIP, not at all. Reviews are very good. The only thing I need to work on
: is leadership. I already started working on this.
: Many times he mentioned that I got paid too much. I got in when the stock
: was cheap. He was looking at my offer and considering all the RSUs in
: current value. The truth is that I already sold the vested RSUs last year
: and this year (bad decisions!).
: I architectured a core component of the phone and got really good feedback.
: Other groups proposed to adopt my design or way of thinking. I was invited
: to give a technical talk which was well received.
: It is possible the manger makes less than me. He constantly mentions he has
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t***s
发帖数: 4666 | 62 Go to other groups that want to use your architecture.
on
.
invited
has
【在 c******I 的大作中提到】
: No PIP, not at all. Reviews are very good. The only thing I need to work on
: is leadership. I already started working on this.
: Many times he mentioned that I got paid too much. I got in when the stock
: was cheap. He was looking at my offer and considering all the RSUs in
: current value. The truth is that I already sold the vested RSUs last year
: and this year (bad decisions!).
: I architectured a core component of the phone and got really good feedback.
: Other groups proposed to adopt my design or way of thinking. I was invited
: to give a technical talk which was well received.
: It is possible the manger makes less than me. He constantly mentions he has
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a********e
发帖数: 381 | 63
on
.
invited
has
1, 你男还是女？可能有性别歧视？
2，你老板是不是很年轻？可能自己新当manager，能争取到的资源不多，所以没法分配
3，看描述感觉你工资比你老板高。否则他一天闲的蛋疼研究你的sign on和进公司时候
的股价
4， 看看有没有周边组能跳的，fuck him off。记着一定要找一个好的，有权势有资源
的老板
5，或者，直接report director要求换manager，证据就是review 很好，但是rsu=0，
最好找一个google/fb offer backup，如果可能的话
如果我老板给我0 RSU的话，我一般会说“oh that sounds you want me to leave" 我
一般都会直说
【在 c******I 的大作中提到】
: No PIP, not at all. Reviews are very good. The only thing I need to work on
: is leadership. I already started working on this.
: Many times he mentioned that I got paid too much. I got in when the stock
: was cheap. He was looking at my offer and considering all the RSUs in
: current value. The truth is that I already sold the vested RSUs last year
: and this year (bad decisions!).
: I architectured a core component of the phone and got really good feedback.
: Other groups proposed to adopt my design or way of thinking. I was invited
: to give a technical talk which was well received.
: It is possible the manger makes less than me. He constantly mentions he has
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i*******s
发帖数: 298 | 64 楼主进去不就是20万的initial RSU，怎么能比老板高？一年半前的股价并不低，这个
可以查到的
【在 a********e 的大作中提到】
:
: on
: .
: invited
: has
: 1, 你男还是女？可能有性别歧视？
: 2，你老板是不是很年轻？可能自己新当manager，能争取到的资源不多，所以没法分配
: 3，看描述感觉你工资比你老板高。否则他一天闲的蛋疼研究你的sign on和进公司时候
: 的股价
: 4， 看看有没有周边组能跳的，fuck him off。记着一定要找一个好的，有权势有资源
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s*********4
发帖数: 468 | 65 Sounds like he was promoted or transferred to your team as a manager based
on the fact that he thinks your sign-on was high enough to compensate you
without RSU. In that case, I'm guessing he was thinking something else like
setting the tone for his leadership instead of financial concerns. Truth
being told, you may want to seek other ways to let your manager know that is
completely not OK because you got high ratings on your performance. One
way is talk to your boss's boss or HR in a way that he understands you are
pissed off because your hard work has not been appreciated and financial
appreciation such as RSU is what you need. Nothing else. You'll fully follow
his leadership under all circumstance.
on
.
invited
has
【在 c******I 的大作中提到】
: No PIP, not at all. Reviews are very good. The only thing I need to work on
: is leadership. I already started working on this.
: Many times he mentioned that I got paid too much. I got in when the stock
: was cheap. He was looking at my offer and considering all the RSUs in
: current value. The truth is that I already sold the vested RSUs last year
: and this year (bad decisions!).
: I architectured a core component of the phone and got really good feedback.
: Other groups proposed to adopt my design or way of thinking. I was invited
: to give a technical talk which was well received.
: It is possible the manger makes less than me. He constantly mentions he has
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t***s
发帖数: 4666 | 66 按manager training, RSU 并不是奖励high performance 的，而是用来retention 的
。所以会考虑以前发的unvested RSU，再加上今年的refreshers 看总数能不能把你拴
住。
like
is
follow
【在 s*********4 的大作中提到】
: Sounds like he was promoted or transferred to your team as a manager based
: on the fact that he thinks your sign-on was high enough to compensate you
: without RSU. In that case, I'm guessing he was thinking something else like
: setting the tone for his leadership instead of financial concerns. Truth
: being told, you may want to seek other ways to let your manager know that is
: completely not OK because you got high ratings on your performance. One
: way is talk to your boss's boss or HR in a way that he understands you are
: pissed off because your hard work has not been appreciated and financial
: appreciation such as RSU is what you need. Nothing else. You'll fully follow
: his leadership under all circumstance.
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a***n
发帖数: 623 | |
i*******s
发帖数: 298 | 68 可能是主要target 坑近一两年进去的吧，反正他们很多人对该有情况了解不清
【在 a***n 的大作中提到】
: 这是被坑了吧
: 今年refresh没啥变化呀
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r*****e
发帖数: 792 | 69 是很令人失望。五万的签字费的确不少，但是也不至于没见过钱一样啊。
我现在公司给的一样，满一年还有减半的一次，不过离家太远，不能坚持太久了。
我住得离苹果很近，最近还在想要不去苹果工作也挺好，现在看起来还是
打消这个念头吧。
and
【在 c******I 的大作中提到】
: ic 4 SW, iOS development, 1.5 years employment, worked on many weekends and
: also long hours
: got $0 refresh
: The manager said it was because the sign-on ($50K) was too high.
: So upset, made more in the previous job
: Is there anything i can do to get some RSU?
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r*****e
发帖数: 792 | 70 这是对自己公司没有自信的干法啊。
老这么干会起到把high performer挤走的作用。一个人就算是一年拿100万，
而且review不错，老是得不到肯定也是会动心走人吧。
【在 t***s 的大作中提到】
: 按manager training, RSU 并不是奖励high performance 的，而是用来retention 的
: 。所以会考虑以前发的unvested RSU，再加上今年的refreshers 看总数能不能把你拴
: 住。
:
: like
: is
: follow
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a***n
发帖数: 623 | 71 哇这太邪恶了，我来问问周围的新人。
我认识的几个私下聊过都感觉今年refresh/base inc/bonus没啥变化，基本都是7/8/9
这种review的，还有升级的refresh了大包裹……
【在 i*******s 的大作中提到】
: 可能是主要target 坑近一两年进去的吧，反正他们很多人对该有情况了解不清
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H***F
发帖数: 2501 | 72 what's your sign on RSU?
and
【在 c******I 的大作中提到】
: ic 4 SW, iOS development, 1.5 years employment, worked on many weekends and
: also long hours
: got $0 refresh
: The manager said it was because the sign-on ($50K) was too high.
: So upset, made more in the previous job
: Is there anything i can do to get some RSU?
|
i*******s
发帖数: 298 | 73 楼主不是说了20w initial RSU了吗？
【在 H***F 的大作中提到】
: what's your sign on RSU?
:
: and
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t***s
发帖数: 4666 | 74 不过楼主的开始的$20万现在值$30多万了。manager 都会看current value of
unvested RSUs.
【在 i*******s 的大作中提到】
: 楼主不是说了20w initial RSU了吗？
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i*******s
发帖数: 298 | 75 一年半以前4/1/2016 apple 股价125， 现在155， 你怎么算出来的30多万？
【在 t***s 的大作中提到】
: 不过楼主的开始的$20万现在值$30多万了。manager 都会看current value of
: unvested RSUs.
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t***s
发帖数: 4666 | 76 楼主应该是在五月$90块左右拿到的股票。
【在 i*******s 的大作中提到】
: 一年半以前4/1/2016 apple 股价125， 现在155， 你怎么算出来的30多万？
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e*****s
发帖数: 121 | 77 这个还真是没听说过，从来没看过谁0 refresh。得罪老板了？
and
【在 c******I 的大作中提到】
: ic 4 SW, iOS development, 1.5 years employment, worked on many weekends and
: also long hours
: got $0 refresh
: The manager said it was because the sign-on ($50K) was too high.
: So upset, made more in the previous job
: Is there anything i can do to get some RSU?
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t*******t
发帖数: 364 | 78 楼主有木有fuck up什么project？如果没有的话就纯粹是manager的问题。准备换组吧
，比出去找容易。换个好老板海阔天空。 |
c******I
发帖数: 67 | 79 I just want to thank you all for the advice/suggestions, insights and
valuable information! I sincerely appreciate every comment.
The manager has been on vacation. I haven't had a chance to talk to him. I
will update when I get more information. |
B****9
发帖数: 6 | 80 你刚开始的包裹挺大的，所以可能refresh 没那么给力
: not much. a little over 200k for 15 years of experience
【在 c******I 的大作中提到】
: I just want to thank you all for the advice/suggestions, insights and
: valuable information! I sincerely appreciate every comment.
: The manager has been on vacation. I haven't had a chance to talk to him. I
: will update when I get more information.
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