i*********5
发帖数: 19210 | 1 【 以下文字转载自 Tri 讨论区 】
发信人: ironman2015 (IMMT 2013), 信区: Tri
标 题: IM KONA - Dirk Bockel
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Oct 8 21:20:42 2013, 美东) | d**y
发帖数: 18174 | 2 精美、励志。这位老兄不应该叫铁人，应该叫钢人。他在最后几公里的想法跟你打铁快
要成功的时候是不是差不多？
【在 i*********5 的大作中提到】
: 【 以下文字转载自 Tri 讨论区 】
: 发信人: ironman2015 (IMMT 2013), 信区: Tri
: 标 题: IM KONA - Dirk Bockel
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Oct 8 21:20:42 2013, 美东)
| d**y
发帖数: 18174 | 3 片子里第一次比赛，“既然podium没有希望，第四第五第六就无所谓”，有点不够积极
。好在后面他越来越积极了，手受伤之后那段更让人钦佩的五体投地。一个手掌骨骨折
的人，出发300米绷带就松了，没有夹板游不了，要是一般人估计就放弃了。厉害！
【在 d**y 的大作中提到】
: 精美、励志。这位老兄不应该叫铁人，应该叫钢人。他在最后几公里的想法跟你打铁快
: 要成功的时候是不是差不多？
| d**y
发帖数: 18174 | 4 尽管骨折影响了成绩，游泳还是很快的
Swim Details Division Rank: 18
Split Name Distance Split Time
Race Time
Pace Div. Rank Overall Rank Gender Rank
Total 2.4 mi 52:30 52:30 1:21/100m 18 20 20
【在 d**y 的大作中提到】
: 片子里第一次比赛，“既然podium没有希望，第四第五第六就无所谓”，有点不够积极
: 。好在后面他越来越积极了，手受伤之后那段更让人钦佩的五体投地。一个手掌骨骨折
: 的人，出发300米绷带就松了，没有夹板游不了，要是一般人估计就放弃了。厉害！
| d**y
发帖数: 18174 | 5 我看这位老兄在片子里游泳训练的视频，忍不住评论两句。他和大部分人一样，非换气
侧的streamline差，这一侧手臂划水略宽，尤其是推水和出水问题比较大，向斜后。根
据他第一个比赛的自我评估，前面把力气用光了。要是游泳能提高效率，后面，尤其是
跑步，也许还能快一点。
【在 d**y 的大作中提到】
: 尽管骨折影响了成绩，游泳还是很快的
: Swim Details Division Rank: 18
: Split Name Distance Split Time
: Race Time
: Pace Div. Rank Overall Rank Gender Rank
: Total 2.4 mi 52:30 52:30 1:21/100m 18 20 20
| d**y
发帖数: 18174 | 6 他的flip总是右侧沉的厉害，因此总是打偏。虽然练三项的不在乎这个，但是对池子里
想快一秒半秒的兄弟，他的错误算是有代表性：右手太着急了，人还没翻过去，手先翻
了。
【在 d**y 的大作中提到】
: 我看这位老兄在片子里游泳训练的视频，忍不住评论两句。他和大部分人一样，非换气
: 侧的streamline差，这一侧手臂划水略宽，尤其是推水和出水问题比较大，向斜后。根
: 据他第一个比赛的自我评估，前面把力气用光了。要是游泳能提高效率，后面，尤其是
: 跑步，也许还能快一点。
| d**y
发帖数: 18174 | 7 往回拉，才知道骨折原来是因为接一个瓶子（水？）碰到了汽车的侧镜子。太不值得了！
【在 d**y 的大作中提到】
: 尽管骨折影响了成绩，游泳还是很快的
: Swim Details Division Rank: 18
: Split Name Distance Split Time
: Race Time
: Pace Div. Rank Overall Rank Gender Rank
: Total 2.4 mi 52:30 52:30 1:21/100m 18 20 20
| d**y
发帖数: 18174 | 8 他的衣服貌似不错，我还没这个牌子的湿衣。可惜太贵。不知道比xterra怎么样？
Gear Review: blueseventy Helix Wetsuit
Wetsuits are one of the larger gear investments a budding triathlete can
make; behind a bike and/or race wheels (if, of course, you fall into USAT's
median income range of approximately $108,000), it is likely a wetsuit will
be your most expensive piece of gear.
With that kind of money on the line, then, it stands to be prudent when it
comes to selection. Much like when it comes to proper triathlon bikes and
running shoes, fit comes first. Then you can start worrying about the
features of a particular suit versus another. This means that if you are
part of the crowd screaming, "I can only wear a sleeveless," it is more
likely that you either have an abnormally shaped torso (there are indeed
certain people who just can't fit into a sleeved suit), or you have never
had a sleeved suit that fit you properly.
But, what if you enjoy the feel of the water against your arms, or simply
prefer a thinner feel to the sleeves of the suit? Most wetsuit companies
really build up the forearms of their suits to create catch panels, with the
theory that they will help move more water.
Enter the blueseventy Helix.
blueseventy Helix Men's 2012 Wetsuit. (image courtesy of blueseventy).
The Tech Babble
Wetsuits, at their core, have been using the same kind of material for
decades: neoprene. Regardless of brand or fit, you'll be buying a suit made
of this material, much like how in running shoes, you'll for the most part
be buying an ethylene vinyl acetate product.
Neoprene, due to its smoothness, helps reduce drag in the water. However,
because there are air molecules trapped in the rubber (much like how air
molecules trapped in the midsole of a running shoe provide the cushioning),
the air helps to provide lift, and therefore buoyancy.
Of course, having a whole bunch of rubber surrounding your skin in the water
also helps keep you warm. Too warm, in some instances. This is why there
are temperature cut-offs for wetsuits: because you run the risk of severe
overheating if the water temperature is high to begin with. The suit will
only make it warmer! For Rev3 events, the water temperature cut-off for
awards is 78 degrees; nobody is permitted to wear a wetsuit when the water
is warmer than 84 degrees. For those planning on racing say, Rev3 Maine or
Rev3 Cedar Point with me: I think we have nothing to worry about. We'll be
wearing wetsuits.
There is also a limit to the thickness of the wetsuit: 5 millimeters at its
maximum. This is, again, to limit overheating due to the suit being too
thick, and also too much buoyancy help from a wetsuit. As it is, wearing a
suit with 5 millimeter thickness is impossibly buoyant; you basically need
only scull with your pinkies in order to stay afloat.
That is not to say, though, that all suits with 5 millimeter thickness in
them are made the same. Nor should all of the suit necessarily be made to
this thickness; sure, we want the buoyancy, but we also need to be able to
move in the suit! If you can't move your arms well enough to take an
effective swim stroke, then you haven't made any sort of improvement by
putting on a wetsuit.
Furthermore, although buoyancy can help out any swimmer, there are different
types of buoyancy needed for different people. If you are like most
triathletes who come from a cycling or running background, the mass will be
in your legs, and you have a difficult time raising the hips to avoid the
dreaded "swimming uphill" position: pushing water down with your torso, legs
behind you sinking towards the bottom. However, if you have more of a
swimming background, your body positioning tends to be better; you want the
suit to give you some of the sleekness and buoyancy, but to some degree get
out of the way.
blueseventy, named for the fact that water (blue) covers seventy percent of
the Earth's surface, recognized this as well. There are two product ranges
that blueseventy manufactures: the neutral buoyancy line, and the positive
buoyancy line. The neutral buoyancy products are thicker in the torso and
core, whereas the positive buoyancy suits focus more on buoyancy through the
core, hips, and legs, much like swimming with a permanent pull buoy.
The Helix slats in as the top-of-the-line neutral buoyancy suit. It tiers
the maximum thickness of the suit as 5-5-4, with the first section through
the torso, the middle section as the core and hips, and the final section
throughout the legs. So, the legs are a touch thinner than the top two
sections. This isn't to say that they will sink when in the water; instead,
blueseventy's research suggests that because the legs are constantly in
motion (read: work on your kick, buster, because you're supposed to be
kicking in a triathlon swim...), this thickness provides the best balance of
buoyancy and freedom of motion.
The core and hips are also constructed slightly differently from the torso.
The suit features what are called Aerodome panels in the midsection.
Remember above how we talked about the rubber having air molecules trapped
in the matrix? Well, increase the volume of those air molecules, and you
have Aerodome: same thickness, more buoyancy. This is to help promote that
downhill swimming position.
But what of the arms and shoulders, the part of the suit that makes people
cringe? This is where blueseventy takes a completely different course as
compared to other suit manufacturers. Most suits will feature a butterfly
panel, opening up the shoulders and arms, before building to large "catch
panels" in the forearm, designed to help move more water during the swim
stroke. The problem? These catch panels also create drag in the water,
particularly if you have a longer glide before initiating the pull. Also, if
you don't get the suit just right in the shoulder, it will feel as if it is
pulling down on the arm.
blueseventy's solution? Let's go all minimal up top! The suit has some of
the butterfly in the shoulder and back, with 2 millimeter thickness there.
But then there are 1.5 and 1 millimeter panels all throughout the arms. And
they're not even neoprene; it's fabric! The result: supreme freedom of
motion. But it also can help out from a form standpoint; it will allow you
to take that swim stroke you've been honing in the pool and bring it
directly into the open-water; no form modifications necessary. This can help
reduce injury-risk, but also increase awareness of what is working and what
's not working; it's easy to make modifications in technique when the suit
is so flexible.
The Helix was designed with triathlete's in mind, as there are some answers
to common problems that we tend to face. Take, for instance, the run into
the water for beach starts, or the run from the water to transition. The
Helix has a thinner panel behind the knee to allow you to be able to run
easily with the suit on. Also, the zipper works in reverse: when putting the
suit on, it zips from the neck down. To remove, pull the cord up. This
makes sure that if somebody gets a hold on that pull cord during the course
of the swim, it's not pulling the zipper down off your suit and letting a
whole bunch of water in.
The Swim: How's It Work
This suit is FAST. As in, holy crap.
As we reviewed before, I swam in the Orca Sonar last season, and another
Orca suit for part of the year this year. You would think that, being 6'3"
and 158 lb., I would fit well into a suit that is pretty narrow.
And you'd be wrong: the Orca line is designed with folks who fit onto the
Felt's and Cervelo's of the bicycle world in mind: long torso, shorter to
average length legs. I am, of course, built the opposite way: super long
legs, next to no torso. To give you an idea, when doing the Rev3 Maine bike
course preview with Jen Small, her response to attempting to draft off of me
while on board Wallace the Blue: "You're all legs! No draft comes off of
you!"
So, in other words: the Orca line was a poor match. It resulted in some
shoulder impingement, simply because I could never get the suit's torso to
really match up. Orca also was a little narrower in the shoulders and chest
overall. In sum: I should've gone with something different.
This is the suit.
First off, the rubber in this suit simply works. To test it out for yourself
, just go for a standard beach start, run in, dive in (please, in a familiar
area where you know where you won't hit your head...), and just take off.
You are GONE.
Seriously, this thing just up to speed wants to stay up at speed. And you
feel that speed, too. If this is the first time you've worn a wetsuit, the
phrase "this is cheating" will probably come to mind. And that's OK. It's
not cheating. But it is speedy!
As you start moving into your swim stroke, you'll notice how easy it is to
keep your hips high in the water. One thing that I noticed was that this
suit really likes to have your head "buried," so to speak: relax your neck
to allow your chin to point towards your chest. It really gets you into that
downhill swimming position. The two panels on the sides of the front chest
will also prevent you from jacknifing at the midsection while you turn to
breather, giving you a much more effective position and forcing you into
proper torso rotation.
Your legs will float behind you, but again due to some of the torso panels
you will have less of the fishtail action that is incredibly common in
poorer swimmers (often due to core strength issues). It's really attempting
to streamline you and move you towards the direction that you want to be
moving in.
And then the arms: what a difference! You really get a good idea as to where
you are in the swim stroke, and also knowledge of how small changes in
turnover rate and forearm placement will impact your speed in the water. It'
s incredible how flexible and easy it is to move in this suit. For those who
have shorter torsos and have had issues with sleeved suits in the past,
stop looking. Go try on a Helix.
For the rest of us, this suit will really make some improvements for you. It
is a blazing fast suit that, considering the attention to small details,
really pays off in the end. I couldn't be happier to have found this suit
out. It makes me a better swimmer.
And when you're paying for a wetsuit, isn't that what we're looking for?
Retail: $649.99
Rental at Rev3 Events Available for $75
【在 i*********5 的大作中提到】
: 【 以下文字转载自 Tri 讨论区 】
: 发信人: ironman2015 (IMMT 2013), 信区: Tri
: 标 题: IM KONA - Dirk Bockel
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Oct 8 21:20:42 2013, 美东)
| i*********5
发帖数: 19210 | 9 我只有Xterra，便宜！你可以买它的高端版：Vortex Pro
Best deal ever on XTERRA Vortex fullsuits $149
Coupon Code: KONA13
http://www.xterrawetsuits.com/index.php/slp/kona13?utm_source=e
s
will
【在 d**y 的大作中提到】
: 他的衣服貌似不错，我还没这个牌子的湿衣。可惜太贵。不知道比xterra怎么样？
: Gear Review: blueseventy Helix Wetsuit
: Wetsuits are one of the larger gear investments a budding triathlete can
: make; behind a bike and/or race wheels (if, of course, you fall into USAT's
: median income range of approximately $108,000), it is likely a wetsuit will
: be your most expensive piece of gear.
: With that kind of money on the line, then, it stands to be prudent when it
: comes to selection. Much like when it comes to proper triathlon bikes and
: running shoes, fit comes first. Then you can start worrying about the
: features of a particular suit versus another. This means that if you are
| i*********5
发帖数: 19210 | 10 谢谢分析！
【在 d**y 的大作中提到】
: 我看这位老兄在片子里游泳训练的视频，忍不住评论两句。他和大部分人一样，非换气
: 侧的streamline差，这一侧手臂划水略宽，尤其是推水和出水问题比较大，向斜后。根
: 据他第一个比赛的自我评估，前面把力气用光了。要是游泳能提高效率，后面，尤其是
: 跑步，也许还能快一点。
| | | d**y
发帖数: 18174 | 11 好deal啊。vortex感觉胸和肩太紧，穿几次也撑不开。pro弹性好点么？
【在 i*********5 的大作中提到】
: 我只有Xterra，便宜！你可以买它的高端版：Vortex Pro
: Best deal ever on XTERRA Vortex fullsuits $149
: Coupon Code: KONA13
: http://www.xterrawetsuits.com/index.php/slp/kona13?utm_source=e
:
: s
: will
| d**y
发帖数: 18174 | 12 从游泳训练看，这位老兄马达是超强的。可惜开水里只有上岸的几秒，看不清楚。
【在 i*********5 的大作中提到】
: 谢谢分析！
| p********r
发帖数: 3799 | 13 blue70比较适合亚洲人的体型，不那么curve | p********r
发帖数: 3799 | 14 这位老兄背后有一个强大的团队支持，跟tdf似的。 | d**y
发帖数: 18174 | 15 这个怎么样？有没有更好的promotion？
http://www.pleasuresports.com/mens-blue-seventy-reaction-john-t
【在 p********r 的大作中提到】
: blue70比较适合亚洲人的体型，不那么curve
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