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发帖数: 3402 | 1 【 以下文字转载自 WaterWorld 讨论区 】
发信人: newtonhust (NT), 信区: WaterWorld
标 题: zz刘莉莉提到的“英雄双行体”到底是什么？装13之前先装点知识在脑袋里吧！
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Jan 16 15:26:31 2012, 美东)
刘莉莉提到的英雄双行体其实不是很复杂的东西，就是押韵的一个方式：一行里面“轻
重轻重”重复5次，然后下面一行继续“轻重轻重”重复5次，同时两个句子的末尾压同
样的韵脚，比方都以“ang”音结尾：“今天真健康；明儿酸肩膀”，这样就叫英雄双
行体（heroic couplet）。
为啥要叫“英雄”呢？因为古代以来，西方人写戏剧、作诗啥的，对英雄人物，战士、
统帅者、贵族讲的话，想让它们比较有气势，就特地给套一个特殊的韵律。法语里面是
所谓的“压力山大”式，古希腊史诗自己的英雄式韵律。
英雄双行体，还可以翻译成英雄双韵体。
它不是一种像绝句，律诗一样的文体，而是一种类似对仗，比喻之类的写作手法，一种
韵律形式。
开8英雄双行体之前，我们先要弄明白一个概念，英雄双行体，是有特指的，英文为
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发帖数: 141625 | 2 【 以下文字转载自 LeisureTime 讨论区 】
发信人: Liangchen (梁辰), 信区: LeisureTime
标 题: 仿《子夜歌》译莎氏桑籁第18及第116
关键字: 莎士比亚 英译 子夜歌
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun May 3 20:05:19 2015, 美东)
SONNET 18
Shall I compare thee to a summer's day?/ 怜欢好姿容，孟夏年及瓜。
Thou art more lovely and more temperate: / 凭绣娇无那，唾檀不取花。
Rough winds do shake the darling buds of May, / 徂风摇稚蕊，五月属清华。
And summer's lease hath all too short a date: / 结欢伤日短，欢行日无赊。
Sometime too hot the eye of heaven shines, / 情慊中肠热，感此苍亦嗟。
often is his gold complexion dimm'd; / 泥金幽玉面，颜... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 104 | 3 Sonnet XVIII, Shall I Compare Thee?
By William Shakespeare
Shall I compare thee to a Summer's day?
Thou art more lovely and more temperate:
Rough winds do shake the darling buds of May,
And Summer's lease hath all too short a date:
Sometime too hot the eye of heaven shines,
And often is his gold complexion dimm'd;
And every fair from fair sometime declines,
By chance or nature's changing course untrimm'd:
But thy eternal Summer shall not fade
Nor lose possession of that fair thou ow'st;
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发帖数: 278 | 4 CHAPTER 20
Grand Central Station
All things are artificial, for nature is the art
of God.
- Thomas Browne
"On Dreams"
Religio Media (1642)
Angels need an assumed body, not for themselves, but on our
account.
- Thomas Aquinas
Summa Theologica, I, 51, 2
The devil hath power
To assume a pleasing shape.
- William Shakespeare
Hamlet, II, ii, 628
the airlock was designed to accommodate only one person at
a time. When questions of priority had come up-which nation
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发帖数: 19049 | 5 引章(2)
广场上失恋的女孩 一遍又一遍地唱
Cheri……
Je ne suis pas seue。
Je ne suis pas seue。
Je ne suis pas seue。
亲爱的 我不孤单
我不孤单
我不孤单
……
Désolé,je t'aime.
琴声神秘忧伤，千回百转间藏着一个谁都不能说的秘密。尽管从来无人相信，可谁又能
担保它不是真的呢？
金色光线洒满布拉格错落的红色房顶，伏尔塔瓦河上升起了缥缈的白雾。据说在布拉格
生活的人们，注定要受到神的庇佑。它甜美得就像一个梦。
铛——
铛——铛……
钟声终于敲破了广场上的繁华，月历钟里召唤死亡的骷髅倒转过来，接下來12尊木偶人
一一经过小窗口，前面十一个走完，剩下一个留在门外。这个被留在门外的小木偶就代
表着背叛了耶稣的犹大。骷髅右边有个土耳其小人摇头晃脑，而左边的两个人代表虛荣
和贪婪。就在小骷髅出现的那一瞬间，女生赶紧迎着阳光的方向划十字，念颂着祷文。
“Set me as a seal upon thine heart, as a seal upon thine arm；for love is
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发帖数: 1292 | 6 【 以下文字转载自 Prose 讨论区,原文如下 】
发信人: ephemeron (花花儿), 信区: Prose
标 题: 引诗一首致李阳
发信站: Unknown Space - 未名空间 (Sat Nov 8 01:00:41 2003) WWW-POST
给W．P．(To W．P．) 桑塔耶那（George Santayana)
李敖译本
冬风扫叶时节，一树萧条如洗，
绿装已卸，却在我心里。
我生命的一部分，已消亡
随着你。
教堂、炉边、郊路、和港湾，
情味都今非昔比。
虽有余情，也难追寻，
一日之间，我不知老了几许?
你天性的善良、慈爱和轻快，
曾属于我，跟我一起。
我不知道那一部分多，
是你带走的我，
还是我留下的你。
这诗写得苍茫深邃，读来感人心弦。原文：
With you a Part of me hath passed away；
For in the peopled forest of my mind
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发帖数: 79569 | 7 【 以下文字转载自 Memory 讨论区 】
发信人: lummy (河马·云何), 信区: Memory
标 题: 说起来英雄双行体
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Jan 16 02:41:46 2012, 美东)
觉得这词要火啊。中国人民一下子就家喻户晓了。。。哦，应该说，我们这儿的人民。
。。
不过莎士比亚好像真没怎么专门写过英雄双韵体啊。。。不像十四行诗那么出名。反正
我是没读过。倒是在他的戏剧里到处都是英雄双韵体，不可能说是一般人没读过。。。
觉得也许小姑娘忽悠大了？
正好感慨我们这里发生的一个八卦，抄一段莎翁的仲夏夜之梦里的一段很严谨的
heroic couplet，凑个趣：
Love looks not with the eyes, but with the mind;
And therefore is winged Cupid painted blind.
Nor hath Love's mind of any judgment taste;
Wings, and no eyes, figure unheedy haste:
And therefore is... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 3872 | 8 SONNET 18
Shall I compare thee to a summer's day?
Thou art more lovely and more temperate:
Rough winds do shake the darling buds of May,
And summer's lease hath all too short a date:
Sometime too hot the eye of heaven shines,
And often is his gold complexion dimm'd;
And every fair from fair sometime declines,
By chance, or nature's changing course, untrimm'd;
But thy eternal summer shall not fade
Nor lose possession of that fair thou ow'st;
Nor shall Death brag thou wander'st in his shade,... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 3872 | 9 "...
But far above in spangled sheen
Celestial Cupid her fam'd son advanc't,
Holds his dear Psyche sweet intranc't [ 1005 ]
After her wandring labours long,
Till free consent the gods among
Make her his eternal Bride,
And from her fair unspotted side
Two blissful twins are to be born, [ 1010 ]
Youth and Joy; so Jove hath sworn." |
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发帖数: 3872 | 10 "...
But far above in spangled sheen
Celestial Cupid her fam'd son advanc't,
Holds his dear Psyche sweet intranc't [ 1005 ]
After her wandring labours long,
Till free consent the gods among
Make her his eternal Bride,
And from her fair unspotted side
Two blissful twins are to be born, [ 1010 ]
Youth and Joy; so Jove hath sworn." |
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发帖数: 141625 | 11 【 以下文字转载自 LeisureTime 讨论区 】
发信人: Liangchen (梁辰), 信区: LeisureTime
标 题: 仿《子夜歌》译莎氏桑籁第18及第116
关键字: 莎士比亚 英译 子夜歌
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun May 3 20:05:19 2015, 美东)
SONNET 18
Shall I compare thee to a summer's day?/ 怜欢好姿容，孟夏年及瓜。
Thou art more lovely and more temperate: / 凭绣娇无那，唾檀不取花。
Rough winds do shake the darling buds of May, / 徂风摇稚蕊，五月属清华。
And summer's lease hath all too short a date: / 结欢伤日短，欢行日无赊。
Sometime too hot the eye of heaven shines, / 情慊中肠热，感此苍亦嗟。
often is his gold complexion dimm'd; / 泥金幽玉面，颜... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 19317 | 12 5:33 [hgb] 你 们 又 听 见 有 吩 咐 古 人 的 话 ， 说 ， 不 可 背 誓
， 所 起 的 誓 ， 总 要 向 主 谨 守 。
[kjv] Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old
time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shalt perform unto the Lord thine
oaths:
[bbe] Again, you have knowledge that it was said in old times, Do
not take false oaths, but give effect to your oaths to the Lord:
5:34 [hgb] 只 是 我 告 诉 你 们 ， 什 么 誓 都 不 可 起 ， 不 可 指
着 天 起 誓 ， 因 为 天 是 神 的 座 位 。
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发帖数: 9567 | 13 既然大家提起了牛顿，俺就做了一点点research。
牛顿为了研究圣经学习了希伯来语和希腊语。他认为三一神论是人为的，并修改圣经来
加以支持。下面列出的是牛顿的宗教信仰12点。
http://www.newtonproject.sussex.ac.uk/view/texts/normalized/THEM00008
Twelve articles on religion
by Isaac Newton
Artic. 1. There is one God the Father everliving, omnipresent, omniscient,
almighty, the maker of heaven & earth, & one Mediator between God & Man the
Man Christ Iesus.
Artic 2. The father is the invisible God whom no eye hath seen or can see,
all other beings are sometimes visible.
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发帖数: 267 | 14 找到一个英文的。
Amazing Grace
1. Amazing grace! how sweet the sound,
That saved a wretch like me!
I once was lost, but now am found,
Was blind, but now I see.
2. 'Twas grace that taught my heart to fear,
And grace my fears relieved;
How precious did that grace appear
The hour I first believed!
3. The Lord hath promised good to me,
His word my hope secures;
He will my shield and portion be
As long as life endures.
4. When we've been there ten thousand years,
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发帖数: 26222 | 15 【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: smokinggun (硝烟), 信区: Military
标 题: 美国基督教对伊斯兰的ideology war:在杀人瞄准镜上刻圣经片段
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Jan 22 20:31:57 2010, 美东)
提示：有才的制造杀人瞄准镜商， 在送往IRAQ， Afhanstan的武器上被刻上了指向圣
经如下片段的页码：
2 Corinthians 4:6
For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in
our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the
face of Jesus Christ.
为神，谁指挥灯照向黑暗的，在我们的心中闪耀的，给予了神的荣耀耶稣基督的荣耀的。
Petraeus的一段解释是欲盖弥彰。看来小布什的对中东Cruasade在美国是深得民心。其
代表的是基督教对伊斯兰教的千年仇恨和不间断 |
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发帖数: 925 | 16 http://www.glorypress.com/devotional/FaithAndLifeOneYearBook.asp?bid=3
祂眷顾我
经文：“耶和华向来眷念我们，祂还要赐福给我们。”（诗篇一一五：12）
我敢在第一句话，盖上我的图章，肯定它的真实性。是的，耶和华一向顾念我
们，供应我们，安慰我们，释放我们，并引导我们。在祂纯全善良的旨意中，祂总是看
顾着我们，也不轻忽我们的过失;祂的心思时刻系在我们身上，片刻不稍离。特别是在
我们有需要的时候，祂格外地施恩给我们，使我们在回想之际，感恩之情不禁油然满溢。
第二句话是逻辑的推论，因着上帝是昔在，今在，永在，永不改变的上帝，祂
既然眷顾着我们，祂也必定施恩给我们。我们不仅是根据理性的推论而已，更是借着圣
灵的感动与权威，毫不迟疑地宣告：“祂必要赐福给我们。”这是无庸置疑的伟大真理
，这应许也意味着无限的可能性，祂要按着祂美善的旨意来祝福我们，直到永远。所以
，让我们高呼：“颂赞归于上帝！”
Ever Mindful
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发帖数: 9485 | 17
我觉得是翻译的问题，这里有个翻译，说的简介明了：（罗马书5：3-5）
3不但这样，我们遭遇患难的时候也该欢喜，因为知道患难使人产生忍耐，
4忍耐叫人蒙悦纳，人蒙悦纳就有希望，
5这个希望必不令人失望，因为上帝的爱借着他赐给我们的圣灵，已经倾注在我们心里
了。
和合本：
3不但如此，就是在患难中，也是欢欢喜喜的。因为知道患难生忍耐。
4忍耐生老练。老练生盼望。
5盼望不至于羞耻，因为所赐给我们的圣灵将神的爱浇灌在我们心里。
英文
5：3And not only so, but we also rejoice in our tribulations: knowing that
tribulation worketh stedfastness;
4，and stedfastness, approvedness; and approvedness, hope:
5 and hope putteth not to shame; because the love of God hath been shed
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发帖数: 196 | 18 约翰福音8章58节：
耶稣说：“我实实在在的告诉你们，还没有亚伯拉罕就有了我。”
Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I
AM.
出埃及记3章14节，旧约摩西问上帝的名字，上帝对摩西说：“我是自有永有的”；又
说：“你要对以色列人这样说：‘那自有的打发我到你们这里来。’”
And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say
unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.
I AM是旧约中上帝的名字。God是一个称谓，不是名字。所以犹太人听耶稣敢自称是神
，“于是他们拿石头要打他；耶稣却躲藏，从殿里出去了。” |
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发帖数: 925 | 19 http://www.glorypress.com/devotional/FaithAndLifeOneYearBook.asp?bid=3
上帝必垂听
经文: 「耶和华听了我的恳求；耶和华必收纳我的祷告。」（诗篇六：9）
以上所说的是我亲身经验，我可以向你保证，上帝是真活的上帝，好多次祂以
奇妙的方式回答我的祷告。是的，祂总是垂听我恳求，不会转耳不听，祂的名是应当称
颂的。
然后呢？肯定的，活在诗篇作者信心中的应许，也是属于我的，让我紧紧抓住
这应许：「上帝必收纳我祷告。」想想哪，慈爱的上帝必在祂认为最合适的时刻，以祂
的方式，回答我们的祈求。我在上帝面前陈明我的心愿，上帝就侧耳倾听，全神灌注收
纳我的祷告，而我的仇敌只会嘲笑我哭求的眼泪。
对一个罪人而言，这是多么大的恩典，当我接受这位创造天地的主，祂就为祂
儿子之名的缘故，垂听我的祷告。耶稣的名是何等宝贵，借着祂的名，我们的祷告，可
上达天庭。主啊，教导我怎样祷告，因为駆必垂听！
He Always Listens
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发帖数: 10575 | 20 http://www.ccel.org/ccel/boettner/predest.iii.i.html
Chapter II
Statement of the Doctrine
In the Westminster Confession, which sets forth the beliefs of the
Presbyterian and Reformed Churches and which is the most perfect expression
of the Reformed Faith, we read: "God from all eternity did by the most wise
and holy counsel of His own will, freely and unchangeably ordain whatsoever
comes to pass; yet so as thereby neither is God the author of sin, nor is
violence offered to the will of the creat... 阅读全帖 |
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永不孤单
经文: 「你必不再称为『撇弃的』。」（以赛亚书六十二︰4）
「被抛弃」是多么凄惨的字！听起来像是一场悲剧。那是一种椎心刺骨的伤痛
，是一种痛彻心肺的哀绝，那是一种说不出来的心结纠缠。你曾被父母亲遗弃？你曾被
海誓山盟的情人甩掉？你曾被至友出卖？或是被你的亲人欺骗？这的确是令人哀痛欲绝
的不幸遭遇，但上帝若医治我们，这样的伤痛，随着时间的冲淡，还是可慢慢痊愈。
然而，若上帝抛弃你，那又是怎样的光景？请听耶稣在十字架上的呼求︰「上
帝哪，上帝哪，祢为什么抛弃我？」我们可曾饱受凌迟酷刑的折磨？可曾亲尝这种备极
羞辱的滋味？若有，求上帝为我们把这一切挪开，不要让这样的苦况重现。恶人常指着
受苦的圣人说︰「你的上帝已经抛弃你，所以祂使你吃苦受罪。」不，这完全错了。上
帝纯全的大爱要覆庇我们，要逼着仇敌收回他的话，至少要封住他的舌头。
相反地，上帝说︰「我喜悦你。」，我们的哭泣要转为欢欣。让那些以为被... 阅读全帖 |
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主是灵粮
经文: 「永活的父怎样差我来，我又因父活着；照样，吃我肉的人也要因我活着。」（
约翰福音六︰57）
我们借着与上帝的儿子联合而活；而神子耶稣又是靠着差祂来的天父而活。同
理，我们也是靠着苏醒我们灵魂的耶稣而活。祂是我们生命的源头；也是支持我们活力
的补品。我们属灵的生命，需要属灵粮食的供给，而这灵粮就是耶稣自己；不是祂的生
命、祂的死亡、祂的工作、或祂的话，而是祂自己，当然，祂就包括了一切。耶稣是我
们的灵粮吗哪。
主的肉是可吃的，主的血是可喝的，这意义在主的圣餐擘饼聚会中可表征出来
；事实上，当我们借着默想主自己，运用信心相信祂，借着爱的回应思念主名，将上帝
内化到我们的生命，就是享受主自己。我们了解吃主的肉，喝主的血是怎样的滋味，但
我们说不出来，也写不出来。这种只可意会不能言传的感受，惟有亲身去做，才能体尝
那种甘甜。上帝邀我们来享受这丰盛的宴席，祂自己就是取之不尽，用之不竭的补给站。
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完全的洁净
经文: 「我必用清水洒在你们身上，你们就洁净了。我要洁净你们，使你们脱离一切的
污秽，弃掉一切的偶像。」（以西结书卅六︰25）
这是多么令人欢欣雀跃的金句，那位用宝血洁净我们的，也要用圣灵来洁净我
们。上帝说︰「你要被洁净。」祂既这么说，也必这么做。主啊，我们常觉自己污秽不
堪，甚至嫌恶自己，幸好有你的恩言保证，你要洁净我们；求主加速你的圣工在我身上。
祂可以炼净我们的灵魂，让我们脱去卑情下品，除掉不信的恶习，将心中的骄
傲自私、邪情私欲挪开，用上帝纯洁善良的爱来取代，不再让撒但有机会借着我们羞辱
主的圣名。
祂也要除掉一切的偶像，无论是有形的木雕石刻像，或是无形的心中所爱慕的
东西，即使它本身没什么不好不对，但与上帝相较，这仍是次好的。所以，不是它要被
除掉，就是我们要远离它。
上帝亲口说祂要洁净我们，我们大可放心地站在祂的信实话语上，期待祂所承
诺的保证实现。得到洁净... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 25615 | 24 公元前4004年， 十月末，生日剛過。
In the beginning — specifically on October 23, 4004 B.C., at noon — out of
quantum foam fluctuation God created the Big Bang. The bang was followed by
cosmological inflation. God saw that the Big Bang was very big, too big for
creatures that could worship him, so He created the earth. And darkness was
upon the face of the deep, so He commanded hydrogen atoms (which He created
out of Quarks and other subatomic goodies) to fuse and become helium atoms
and in the process release... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 5785 | 25 New International Version (©1984)
Some time later God tested Abraham. He said to him, "Abraham!" "Here I am,"
he replied.
New Living Translation (©2007)
Some time later, God tested Abraham's faith. "Abraham!" God called. "Yes,"
he replied. "Here I am."
English Standard Version (©2001)
After these things God tested Abraham and said to him, “Abraham!” And he
said, “Here am I.”
New American Standard Bible (©1995)
Now it came about after these things, that God tested Abraham, and... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 982 | 26 In the beginning — specifically on October 23, 4004 B.C., at noon — out of
quantum foam fluctuation God created the Big Bang. The bang was followed by
cosmological inflation. God saw that the Big Bang was very big, too big for
creatures that could worship him, so He created the earth. And darkness was
upon the face of the deep, so He commanded hydrogen atoms (which He created
out of Quarks and other subatomic goodies) to fuse and become helium atoms
and in the process release energy in the form ... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1301 | 27 Hebrews 11: 1 Now faith is assurance of [things] hoped for, a conviction of
things not seen.
Matthew 9:22 But Jesus turning and seeing her said, Daughter, be of good
cheer; thy faith hath made thee whole. And the woman was made whole from
that hour.
...
While everybody is doing the same thing, the one with faith will experience
the difference... This is the key of the bible.
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发帖数: 6791 | 28 The Relativity of Biblical Ethics
by Joe Edward Barnhart (1988)
It is an axiom among fundamentalists and evangelicals that theology is the
foundation of ethics and morality in North America culture. Without this
foundation, they fear, ethics would fragment into total relativism of
dissolve into whim, arbitrariness, and chaos. I would like to contest that
view by showing how some organized religions are parasitical to the body of
ethics and how the Bible itself exemplifies moral relativism.
Vario... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 9567 | 29 Josephus Flavius, a famous historian. There are two alleged mentions of
Jesus in his histories. The first of them, the more extensive and more
famous one, is no longer quoted by Christian scholars. That is because they
know it is a blatant Christian forgery. The second passage is still in use.
"Josephus, the renowned Jewish historian, was a native of Judea. He was born
in 37 A. D., and was a contemporary of the Apostles. He was, for a time,
Governor of Galilee, the province in which Christ lived... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 38403 | 30 好奇一下，许多是多少个?
New International Version (©1984)
When God saw what they did and how they turned from their evil ways, he had
compassion and did not bring upon
them the destruction he had threatened.
New Living Translation (©2007)
When God saw what they had done and how they had put a stop to their evil
ways, he changed his mind and did not
carry out the destruction he had threatened.
English Standard Version (©2001)
When God saw what they did, how they turned from their evil way, Go... 阅读全帖 |
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m****a
发帖数: 9485 | 31
kid 网友对希伯来圣经很有研究，这是他独立的对以赛亚书9：6的研究分析。
http://www.mitbbs.com/pc/pccon_9125_159747.html
以赛亚9：6里的“全 能”的确应该翻译成“大能”。
希伯来文 中,“大能”＝gibbor＝mighty， 而“全 能者”＝shaddai
＝“the one who is sufficient” (有他自己就完全足够的那一位)。.
一个大型神学思想应该建立在圣经的正面的完整的反复的明确的表达上，
而不是建立在侧面的，少量的， 分离的， 隐含的，模糊的，翻译可疑的字句上。
对后者作一些神学的另类理解其实也没什么。只是不要动摇圣经的明确的主题思想和诫
命。更不要因为别人不同意这些另类理解而攻击别人。
另见 以前的文章如下：
发信人: kid (kid), 信区: TrustInJesus
标 题: 以赛亚9：6婴孩与永恒的父
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Oct 18 00:33:29 2009, 美东)
(These are based on two articles that I wrote 4 year... 阅读全帖 |
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m****a
发帖数: 9485 | 32
kid 网友对希伯来圣经很有研究，这是他独立的对以赛亚书9：6的研究分析。
http://www.mitbbs.com/pc/pccon_9125_159747.html
以赛亚9：6里的“全 能”的确应该翻译成“大能”。
希伯来文 中,“大能”＝gibbor＝mighty， 而“全 能者”＝shaddai
＝“the one who is sufficient” (有他自己就完全足够的那一位)。.
一个大型神学思想应该建立在圣经的正面的完整的反复的明确的表达上，
而不是建立在侧面的，少量的， 分离的， 隐含的，模糊的，翻译可疑的字句上。
对后者作一些神学的另类理解其实也没什么。只是不要动摇圣经的明确的主题思想和诫
命。更不要因为别人不同意这些另类理解而攻击别人。
另见 以前的文章如下：
发信人: kid (kid), 信区: TrustInJesus
标 题: 以赛亚9：6婴孩与永恒的父
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Oct 18 00:33:29 2009, 美东)
(These are based on two articles that I wrote 4 year... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 5754 | 33
John Chap 1
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was
God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made through him; and without him was not anything made
that hath been made.
4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
5 And the light shineth in the darkness; and the darkness apprehended it
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发帖数: 1911 | 34 耶稣亲口说自己是神的儿子，他只有地上的权柄," on earth the son of man has aut
hority for...."
Luke 5:24
[hb5] 但 要 叫 你 們 知 道 人 子 在 地 上 有 赦 罪 的 權 柄 、 就 對 癱 子
說 、 我 吩 咐 你 、 起 來 、 拿 你 的 褥 子 回 家 去 罷 。
[kjv] But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power upon
earth to
forgive sins, (he said unto the sick of the palsy,) I say unto thee, Arise,
and take up thy couch, and go into thine house.
[bbe] But so that you may see that on earth the Son of man has
authorit
y for the forgiveness of sins, (he s... 阅读全帖 |
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l*****a
发帖数: 38403 | 35 你说的是哪一段哪？ 我怎么没看到，我倒是看到最后一段了，
18No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the
bosom of the Father
简单举出三个人，亚当夏娃雅各
感谢大圣让你效力，指出圣经上的自相矛盾，又称谎言，哈们
was
;
and
Light. |
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G******e
发帖数: 9567 | 36 If there be found among you ... that ... hath gone and served other gods,
and worshipped them ... Then shalt thou ... tone them with stones, till
they die.
If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the
wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee
secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not
known, thou, nor thy fathers ... thou shalt stone him with stones, that he
die.
If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, ... 阅读全帖 |
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s***u
发帖数: 1911 | 37 John 17:5
"And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which
I had with thee before the world was."
Problem:
If Christ had glory with God before the world was, then obviously it is argu
ed he must have existed before his birth on earth.
Solution:
Stress is often placed on Jesus' statement that he had glory with the Father
. The J.W.'s in their New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures translate
this verse as follows: "So now you, Father, glorify me alongside yourself... 阅读全帖 |
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s***u
发帖数: 1911 | 38 John 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto m
e.
similar verse is
John 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw h
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D*****r
发帖数: 6791 | 39 http://www.franknelte.net/Nelte_HTML/LUCIFER.htm
In the English version of the Bible the name "Lucifer" appears only one time
, in Isaiah 14:12. This verse reads:
"How are you fallen from heaven, O LUCIFER, son of the morning..." (Isaiah
14:12)
Now the word "Lucifer" is not an English word, but a LATIN word. And so the
question is:
WHO GAVE THE WORLD THIS LATIN NAME "LUCIFER"? AND WHY DID THEY GIVE US THIS
LATIN NAME?
HOW WE CAME TO HAVE THIS NAME "LUCIFER"
In 382 A.D. Pope Damasus commissioned ... 阅读全帖 |
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R*o
发帖数: 3781 | 40 here is the ruler:
以 西 结 书 Ezekiel
33:13 [hgb] 我 对 义 人 说 ， 你 必 定 存 活 。 他 若 倚 靠 他 的 义 而
作
罪 孽 ， 他 所 行 的 义 都 不 被 记 念 。 他 必 因 所 作 的 罪 孽 死 亡 。
[kjv] When I shall say to the righteous, that he shall surely live
; if
he trust to his own righteousness, and commit iniquity, all his righteousnes
ses shall not be remembered; but for his iniquity that he hath committed, he
shall die for it.
[bbe] When I say to the upright that life will certainly be his;
if he
puts his faith in his ... 阅读全帖 |
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R*o
发帖数: 3781 | 41 Ezkiel 33:13
When I shall say to the righteous, that he shall surely live; if he trust to
his own righteousness, and commit iniquity, all his righteousnesses shall n
ot be remembered; but for his iniquity that he hath committed, he shall die
for it.
我 對 義 人 說 、 你 必 定 存 活 ． 他 若 倚 靠 他 的 義 而 作 罪 孽 、 他 所
行 的 義 、 都 不 被 記 念 ． 他 必 因 所 作 的 罪 孽 死 亡 。 |
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R*o
发帖数: 3781 | 42 Good example to defute "on saved always saved"
Some "born again" have no root in their heart. That's why Calvinists kept d
oing bad things on this board.
马 太 福 音 Matthew
13:20 [hgb] 撒 在 石 头 地 上 的 ， 就 是 人 听 了 道 ， 当 下 欢 喜 领
受
。
[kjv] But he that received the seed into stony places, the same is
he t
hat heareth the word, and anon with joy receiveth it;
[bbe] And that which went on the stones, this is he who, hearing
the wo
rd, straight away takes it with joy;
13:21 [hgb] ... 阅读全帖 |
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R*o
发帖数: 3781 | 43 another good example restating ezekiel 33:13 (When I shall say to the righte
ous, that he shall surely live; if he trust to his own righteousness, and co
mmit iniquity, all his righteousnesses shall not be remembered; but for his
iniquity that he hath committed, he shall die for it.)
Luke 19:
11 众 人 正 在 听 见 这 些 话 的 时 候 ， 耶 稣 因 为 将 近 耶 路 撒 冷 ， 又
因 他 们 以 为 神 的 国 快 要 显 出 来 ， 就 另 设 一 个 比 喻 ， 说 ：
12 有 一 个 贵 胄 往 远 方 去 ， 要 得 国 回 来 ，
13 便 叫 了 他 的 十 个 仆 人 来 ， 交 给 他 们 十 锭 （ 锭 ： 原 文 作
弥 拿 约 银 十 两 ）... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1059 | 44 来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 圣灵感动？ You misunderstand calvinism when you say this:
I hate calvinists because they believe God created some human just for BBQ
p
urpose. It is an insult to God and human culture.
You can find the correct answer from formal statements, e.g. WSC Westminster
Shorter Catechism
Q. 1. What is the chief end of man?
A. Man’s chief end is to glorify God,[1] and to enjoy him forever.[2]
[1] Psalm 86. Bow down thine ear, O LORD, hear me: for I am poor and needy.
Preserve my soul; for I am holy: O thou my God, ... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 4956 | 45 经文：
太 7:1 “你们不要论断人，免得你们被论断。 太 7:2 因为你们怎样论断人，也必怎
样被论断；你们用什么量器量给人，也必用什么量器量给你们。 路 6:37 “你们不要
论断人，就不被论断；你们不要定人的罪，就不被定罪；你们要饶恕人，就必蒙饶恕(
“饶恕”原文作“释放”)； 罗 2:1 你这论断人的，无论你是谁，也无可推诿。你在
什么事上论断人，就在什么事上定自己的罪；因你这论断人的，自己所行却和别人一样
。 罗 2:3 你这人哪！你论断行这样事的人，自己所行的却和别人一样，你以为能逃脱
神的审判吗？ 罗 14:3 吃的人不可轻看不吃的人；不吃的人不可论断吃的人；因为
神已经收纳他了。 罗 14:4 你是谁，竟论断别人的仆人呢？他或站住，或跌倒，自
有他的主人在；而且他也必要站住，因为主能使他站住。 罗 14:10 你这个人，为什么
论断弟兄呢？又为什么轻看弟兄呢？因我们都要站在 神的台前。 罗 14:13 所以我们
不可再彼此论断，宁可定意，谁也不给弟兄放下绊脚跌人之物。 林前 4:3 我被你们论
断，或被别人论断，我都以为极小的事，连我自己也不论断自己。 林前 4:5 所... 阅读全帖 |
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m****a
发帖数: 9485 | 46
浸信會。長老會的去PCA,OPC,EPC的教會，但是還是要看講臺信息的。
我有去聚会团契了，自己更要读圣经，这是圣经的教导。不要轻易听信人所教，要听圣
灵的，因为人会犯错，圣灵不会。
约翰一书2：26-27
2:26- These [things] have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.
- 我将这些话写给你们，是指着那引诱你们的人说的。
2:27- But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye
need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of
all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye
shall abide in him.
- 你们从主所受的恩膏，常存在你们心里，并不用人教训你们。自有主的恩膏在凡事上
教训你... 阅读全帖 |
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m****a
发帖数: 9485 | 47
浸信會。長老會的去PCA,OPC,EPC的教會，但是還是要看講臺信息的。
我有去聚会团契了，自己更要读圣经，这是圣经的教导。不要轻易听信人所教，要听圣
灵的，因为人会犯错，圣灵不会。
约翰一书2：26-27
2:26- These [things] have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.
- 我将这些话写给你们，是指着那引诱你们的人说的。
2:27- But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye
need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of
all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye
shall abide in him.
- 你们从主所受的恩膏，常存在你们心里，并不用人教训你们。自有主的恩膏在凡事上
教训你... 阅读全帖 |
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E*****m
发帖数: 25615 | 48 【 以下文字转载自 Belief 讨论区 】
发信人: Eloihim (真神), 信区: Belief
标 题: 古蘭經裡評論耶穌及基督徒
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Aug 2 14:04:36 2011, 美东)
5:70 We made a covenant of old with the Children of Israel and We sent unto
them messengers. As often as a messenger came unto them with that which
their souls desired not (they became rebellious). Some (of them) they denied
and some they slew.
5:71 They thought no harm would come of it, so they were wilfully blind and
deaf. And afterward Allah turned (in mercy) toward them. Now ... 阅读全帖 |
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R*o
发帖数: 3781 | 49 Ezekiel 33:13 When I shall say to the righteous, that he shall surely live;
if he trust to his own righteousness, and commit iniquity, all his
righteousnesses shall not be remembered; but for his iniquity that he hath
committed, he shall die for it.
put |
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C****i
发帖数: 1776 | 50 CHAPTER 5
OF PROVIDENCE
1. God the great Creator of all things doth uphold, direct, dispose, and gov
ern all creatures, actions, and things, from the greatest even to the least,
by his most wise and holy providence, according to his infallible foreknowl
edge, and the free and immutable counsel of his own will, to the praise of t
he glory of his wisdom, power, justice, goodness, and mercy.
2. Although, in relation to the foreknowledge and decree of God, the first C
ause, all things come to pass i... 阅读全帖 |
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