f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 1 you should definitely go for it, 27% is a lot.
email fulltilt support, say you're a loyal member... it sucks that you don't
get rakeback...
they'll reply saying they're considering it...
then wait for about 2 months.
good luck! |
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l**********t
发帖数: 269 | 2 You have a couple very nice post on that. how about making them sticky so
new members learn to sign up with rakeback at the beginnign instead of
fighting to get it later. :)
't |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 3 有2个月主要打了些micro cash games，积累了4万多点(本来打算积累到10万，换个单
反相机什么的)，后来FTP不给俺rakeback，俺一生气不玩了，而这些点又倒多不少的..
.打了些1800FTP SNG，赚了几个$26 tokens而已。 |
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t*********d
发帖数: 3398 | 4 哈哈， 能免费弄来的总是好东西了。
我今天检查昨晚的rakeback， 一晚上搞了17刀，然后想， 10天100多刀， 100天1000
多刀， 也很开心，哈哈哈。
token |
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w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 5 5dimes 的promotion相当于60%-85% rakeback。
1.
5d抽4.5%的rake，这相当于10% rakeback。
2.
每付$1的rake，挣10POP.
100POP以上可以参加一个tourney（500 chip），第一名拿$10,其他所有人每人拿$5.
也就是说，每100POP至少能拿到$5，这相当于50% rakeback。（每付$10rake，可以拿
回$5.）
这个tourney最低2个人参加。
如果是两个人参加，等于是$7.5的价值。相当于75%rakeback。3个人相当于66.6%
rakeback，加上前面的10%，分别等于85%和75%rakeback。
这个tourney每一个小时一场。
最初的几场每场只有两个人进去。
现在大概人太多，排不过来，每场有3个人。
今天早上醒了，爬起来打了一个tourney，200POP，共3人，那两人还在睡觉。轻轻松松
拿到$20.
如果你拿60%rakeback就满足了，注册一个比赛，不用去打就行了。
就像那两个睡觉的人一样。 |
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T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 6 Yeah, I setup my rakeback account in fulltiltrakeback.
They just informed me that my rakeback account is now active and I can view
my rakeback report. But the report is showing my rakeback is negative. I
checked my FAQ and it says it is bacause I have sign on bonus and it count
as 100% rakeback. :((((
If PA's poker room open for this year, I will definitely give a try. It
saves me 2 hours round trip to NYC. Going to AC is just too painful
especially I don't have a lot of time during weekend anym |
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w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 7 因为cap是$3，所以多进锅的打法，会比正常打法rakeback多拿很多。
打一台，用经常raise经常进锅的打法，打0.25/0.5，平均能有$3/小时 rakeback（30%
rakeback）。
这个相当于开几台的rakeback？
因为开多台肯定不能多进锅，所以开多台大概不会比开一台rakeback多很多。 |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 9 oh, you're not talking about the same case...
my exmaple was 1800points, 9ppl SNG, the winner gets $81 (real money).
everyone (including winner) loses 1800 points worth in rakeback.
you're talking about 1800points, 9ppl SNG, the winner gets 1800*9=
16200points, right? the initial 1800points will hurt your rakeback for sure,
just like my case.
as for the 16200points you won? i don't know what'd happen if you use them (
for another tournament or buying stuff), but my guess would be you'll STILL
lo... 阅读全帖 |
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g**s
发帖数: 1114 | 10 For reference, previous answers thread:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...-28-a-1029329/
First, the two big questions for US players:
When are we getting our money back?
- Here's the official statement about where we currently stand on US
withdrawals:
"Since April 15th and the days immediately following, Full Tilt Poker faced
numerous challenges and hurdles to ensuring the smooth operation of its
international business and the orderly return of US player funds. FTP has
worked tirelessly to ... 阅读全帖 |
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T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 11 1. Playing Lock poker for 3 weeks now. Starting from June 1, stopped 1 week
in mid June and resumed until now.
The poker winning is a tragic 2bb/100 hand after 18k hand. Majority of the
profit came from sign-on bonus and rakeback.
2. Lock seems have two reward program: VIP and rakeback. For a week I was
getting both VIP cashback and rakeback, I thought my RP exploded. Yesterday
I saw my status switched to Rakeback only. Damn u, lock.
3. Requested first check withdraw for 1k 2 weeks ago, Lock cha... 阅读全帖 |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 13 BEFORE you deposit any real money into FTP (or any site), make sure:
1) you download/register the software from some rakeback sites (google, a
bunch). follow the instructions during registration.
rakeback works like "rebate" from FTP. once you've registered AND deposited
(without adding rakeback), you'll be screwed! (very hard to argue with FTP)
once you make your 1st deposit, you cannot create another account;
2) during the registration, make sure you use some 1st deposit bonus codes (
google, |
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i********r
发帖数: 1153 | 14 this.
if you play a LOT you can get better rakeback deal @ PS, otherwise FT's
rakeback deal is better.
of
rakeback.
RB |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 15 打small stake cash games，尤其是超级快的rush poker，rakeback绝对不可小看，没
有rakeback的同学千万别玩，太亏了。
比如你这个$160/week，就算是偏高了，打点折扣，算$120/week吧，一年下来，你只要
break even，光rakeback就是$6K，算上FTP points, ironman medals/bonus等等，起
码$7, 8K了。 |
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t*********d
发帖数: 3398 | 16 看完了2+2上面7页的讨论， 我的结论是：
用points玩比赛，如果你赢了钱， 伤的rakeback只是毛毛雨，所以该怎么玩就怎么玩。
用points去ftp店里买东西， 大概伤1/3的rakeback， 比如你在ftp店里面买了一台
1200刀的lcd tv， 相当于你用了400刀rakeback + 若干points， 但是你还是比直接用
钱在amazon买节省了800刀。
if
it
sure
that
2.
MGR, |
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T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 17 fryking, 我怎么知道 rakeback 打到我的 ftp 帐户了? fulltitle 给我一个 email
说我有 $130 快钱的 rakeback, 需要 24-48 小时才能入帐. 我怎么检查这钱是不是进
帐了?
我没有作 bookkeeping, 最近 swing 的厉害, 帐号的钱上上下下的, 所以从总数上说
不清 rakeback 的钱进来了没有. |
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c***a
发帖数: 309 | 18 I would like to cashout all ironman medals (284) and full tilt points from
FTP.
By reading the FAQ I realize that using FTPoints will hurt rakeback. Let's
say I get all my rakeback next week and won't have any further action in FTP
, will FTP deduct money from my backroll if I use FTpoints to buy tournament
tokens?
For Ironman medals, by reading FAQ it appears that the best way to use them
is to buy tournament tokens. Is it going to hurt rakeback too?
Thanks a lot for your help! |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 19 do NOT withdraw check/e-check/whatever before you get all your remaining
rakeback, because they'll hurt your rakeback too, like about $10 for each
withdrawal.
no, they won't, whatever in your bankroll is yours, the only diff. is
whether you have a + or - rakeback, hehe.
can |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 20 俺来开个头吧，版上的玉还是很多的，即使比俺这块砖差的，不要灰心，请也和俺们大
家分享，一个花那么多时间精力才挣那么点的版猪，你没有什么可惭愧的。
2010对俺是比较暗淡的一年，投入的精力远比2009大，但结果既差也比较灰，正如俺告
诉风暴MM的，俺现在的扑克part time job面临一个非常严肃的何去何从问题。
去年底经过多次讨价还价，从FTP拿到rakeback，所以今年主要打cash game，
tournament几乎没打。和去年在tournament小打小闹还搞了几千相比，今年几乎是一条
腿走路。
一月份move up到100NL regular打了一个月，大概两千手，非常灰头土脸，技术问题肯
定是主要的，但是也犯了常见的问题，就是觉得新级别要有"新"打法，很冒进，结果是
既没有留住还可以用的，又东施效颦，两头不着。
后来FTP推出rush poker，很好的学习方式，但是居然在50NL这个熟悉的级别也让人打
得头晕眼花。rush因为快，量大，其实暴露了更多基本功的问题。
索性再退到25NL，打了好几个月才回来，主要提高在aggression，3 bet, re-steal... 阅读全帖 |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 21 no, the research is done by a cornell grad student, PS gave him access to
millions of players data, yes, 88% (or 85%) of players are losers in the
long term. since there're so many tracking sites/software now, if you google
and do more research, you might get similar results.
for small stakes, it's really hard to beat the rake and your ever improving
opponents/drying fish pool. without rakeback, even more ppl like myself
might get onto the losing side.
for live small stakes, it might be even wor... 阅读全帖 |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 22 Jhub30 is crazy enough, 3000/7 = 428 games / day !!!
I suppose his games get rake 2.2$ per games, wow, he will donate 941 $ for
the rake per day. and if only 27% is calculated for the rakeback, he will
get 254$ for the rakeback per day.
He gets 9410 original FTP points per day.
666AceofSPades is also crazy, how much does he get rake for the past week?
because his buyin is around 290$, the rake is around 9$/game, and he played 1409 games for the last week, the rake is 9*1409 = 12681$. wow, that i... 阅读全帖 |
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p**********1
发帖数: 1458 | 23 nice deal.
http://www.texasholdem-king.com/what-do-players-receive-in-a-fu
poker-sponsorship-deal-155/
One of the questions that we hear the most often is: what do "red" pros
receive in terms of compensation on Full Tilt Poker?
First off, the level of compensation depends on whether a player is a member
of "Team Full Tilt", a "Full Tilt Pro" or a "friend" of Full Tilt.
I'm not 100% sure what a "friend" of Full Tilt receives - I think that this
varies greatly depending on the player. For instance... 阅读全帖 |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 24 他们网站只提了用points 换cash／item 没提rakeback 啊。 倒底怎么拿rakeback?
你肯定不需要通过rakeback 的网站？
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.8 |
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w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 26 5dimes如果自己搞一个pokerroom，应该能很成功。
因为它有两个主要优势：
1.他的cashout是最好的。现在免费cashout可以保证一天内钱到自己的卡里。
2.它的rakeback是最高的。前段时间它的rakeback是50%，后来由于EPN的强制要求降低
到35%，还是所有pokerroom里最高的。
因为5dimes的sport betting抽水是其他赌场的一半（5% vs 10%），所以低抽水是
5dimes的商业竞争手段，以后也不会改变。
试想一下如果5dimes自己的pokerroom给50%的rakeback，必然会有大批players进来。
就是希望它不要允许hud，这样才能吸引大批鱼。 |
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w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 27 5dimes如果自己搞一个pokerroom，应该能很成功。
因为它有两个主要优势：
1.他的cashout是最好的。现在免费cashout可以保证一天内钱到自己的卡里。
2.它的rakeback是最高的。前段时间它的rakeback是50%，后来由于EPN的强制要求降低
到35%，还是所有pokerroom里最高的。
因为5dimes的sport betting抽水是其他赌场的一半（5% vs 10%），所以低抽水是
5dimes的商业竞争手段，以后也不会改变。
试想一下如果5dimes自己的pokerroom给50%的rakeback，必然会有大批players进来。
就是希望它不要允许hud，这样才能吸引大批鱼。 |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 28 BEFORE you deposit any real money into FTP (or any site), make sure:
1) you download/register the software from some rakeback sites (google, a
bunch). follow the instructions during registration.
rakeback works like "rebate" from FTP. once you've registered AND deposited
(without adding rakeback), you'll be screwed! (very hard to argue with FTP)
once you make your 1st deposit, you cannot create another account;
2) during the registration, make sure you use some 1st deposit bonus codes (
google, |
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k***n
发帖数: 1682 | 29 等我拿到了, 我也得请FRYKING吃饭. hoho..
我直接发EMAIL跟他们联系, 他们也没说不给, 就是不知道要拖到什么时候.
Thank you for contacting Full Tilt Poker.
Full Tilt does not pay players rakeback directly. There are a number of
rakeback affiliates who offer players up to 27% rakeback if they sign up to
Full Tilt Poker through their site.
Please note that this is not an issue which can be solved by opening another
account with Full Tilt Poker, it is against our site policy to open more
than one account. Though you could cease using your acco |
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k******t
发帖数: 257 | 30 Anybody here get rakeback in FT?
A guy claimed getting 1k/month rakeback from FT in my live game table. |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 31 不是整数的话，象是rakeback，你是通过某affilate加入的吧？不过你玩得不多的话，
这个rakeback有点高的不对头。
整数的话，比如$5，$10，可能是deposit bonus。你玩够一定的FTP点数，就给你一点。
ANYWAY，为了避免疑惑，你可以转给俺，俺帮你洗钱，呵呵。 |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 32 TNND，KK lost to AK, QQ to 99 twice, AK to KQ，...连着搞了俺几把，昨天FTP再
次坚定拒绝了给俺rakeback的可能，新仇旧恨。
换个地歇口气，注册帐户，rakeback，1st deposit bonus，一个不能少，呵呵，ID么
，也来个酷点的，2Kings2Win，咋样？效仿某牛人的。 |
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n**m
发帖数: 113 | 33 大家好，总是潜水，以前玩partypoker，现在好久没玩了，想和大家一起以牌会友！
可是我注册fultilt的时候，没有用rakeback,好像是随便在google里面找的一个bonus
code,如果这样deposit的话，以后会不会很亏啊？
可是重新申请账号有舍不得那个ID,
有谁指点一下，怎样deposit能够拿到以后的rakeback啊？
万分感谢，比赛就要开始拉！ |
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c**********l
发帖数: 606 | 34 pokerstars has the best cs of all. they also offer the best selection of
SnG's and tounies. they don't allow data-mining. rakeback is in the form of
fpp.
ftp is improving their service recently. allows data-mining. 27% rakeback.
you need to play at least semi-pro to beat this RB at pokerstars.
i used to play at ps but moved to ft since early this year because of the RB
. |
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H*******n
发帖数: 914 | 35 也有rakeback的吧，我ftp和ps都没注册rakeback，想注册个有的 |
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d****m
发帖数: 119 | 36 Period Period End Revenue Rakeback Carryover Total
2009-08-04 2009-08-10 $-35.85 $-9.68 $0 $-9.68
If my Rakeback is negative, do they deduct it from my FTP account? >< |
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d****m
发帖数: 119 | 37 Period Period End Revenue Rakeback Carryover Total
2009-08-04 2009-08-10 $-35.85 $-9.68 $0 $-9.68
If my Rakeback is negative, do they deduct it from my FTP account? >< |
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w********t
发帖数: 18315 | 38 Rake Back code怎么得到啊，我去注册了，他们只是写信给我说
We've sent your Player ID to Full Tilt Poker to see if you can be considered
to receive rakeback from us.
If we can offer rakeback to you we will be back in contact soon. |
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h****u
发帖数: 35 | 39 既然你们谈到rakeback我就插一句，版主要觉得不合适尽管删。
rake8.com的FTP OFFER不比市面上这些老外的差，连直接rakeback(from ftp)带奖励(
from rake8)，有相当于28%+。 |
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p**h
发帖数: 737 | 40 FTP也有参赛卷吗？
我在想注册ftp或ub,不知哪个好？
ps没有rakeback,不爽。rakeback是自动加给账号还是自己要申请？
谢谢。 |
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c**********o
发帖数: 213 | 42 1) #2 biggest site, you can always find 80K+ players online. PS is bigger
but they don't have rakeback. other sites?
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true, and before supernove you won't get a better rakeback in PS than in FTP
. small sites have really soft game in small stakes, so it's up to you
3) very good customer support and reputation;
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I don't think so, they're f**king slow, PS do this much better indeed.
but anyway FTP is great and I love it. (at least u can watch pros play |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 43 来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 惨淡的一月 月底结算，和去年一月一样，开门黑，总共赢利惨淡的$48.38，白忙乎了。
tournaments玩得不多，200多SNG，总利润400出头。
cash game月初在NL100失常的move up，月底最后一天(靠靠靠)在rush poker的big
downswing，损失惨重，等于基本wipe out tournaments + rakeback。
今年$15K+的目标和天朝保GDP一样严峻啊。
还好的是，2月份因为会计问题，会有比较好的开端，$400的ironman bonus将全部到帐
，一月底最后一个星期的$80多rakeback计算入2月，加上搞的2个$26 tokens，啥也没
干，已经算500多利润。
SIGH，继续。 |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 44 You can use Iron Man medals to buy more Full Tilt Points in the Iron Man
store. If you then proceed to spend those poins in the Full Tilt store or
poker room, it will incur the regular FTP deduction of $0.005 per used point
against your Gross Rake in the FullTilt rakeback calculations.
Example:
Your Gross Rake is $300
You spend 150 Iron Man medals to buy 5000 FTPs, and then spend the points,
which amounts to a $25 deduction to your rake ($0.005*5000)
Your rakeback is ($300 - $25) * 27% = $74.25 |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 45 yes, using FTP points hurt your rakeback.
no, you can use FTP points to play, for examples, some SNGs, like 1800
points, 9ppl SNG, top three will get a $26 token.
FTP points can be used to buy book, electronics etc. in the full tilt store
(again, if you don't care about rakeback), like 120K points can buy an LCD
TV, you can sell it on ebay to get $, haha.
get
or
.
points. |
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h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 46 Shouldn't playing with FTP generate rakeback as well (second order of
rakeback)? But that might be too little.
store |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 47 so far, i just keep accumulating FTP points...
if one day i decide to quit, i'll get all my rakeback, cash out all $, then
use points to buy some big items, like a TV... say goodbye to FTP and let my
rakeback be negative or whatever, haha. |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 48 best part of playing cash game is probably ironman+rakebacks. Rush makes
this more significant. I got the most rakeback ever last week. I didn't even
play that much rush, but I am on my way to silver ironman for the month.
50 ftp pts is very easy to reach. i am averaging >100 ftp a day but can't
make to gold level. Overall, i am still up a bit on rush. I still have
better performance in NL25 than NL10. But I play NL 10 sometimes when i am
not in the mood for bigger swings.
A few leaks i am tryi |
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c**********o
发帖数: 213 | 49 其实我不太确定ironman是否给FTP带来更多rake：对lightuser，他是很实惠的，但是
对PRO而言太不划算了。每天打够200点就没有理由在继续了（之后500点，1000点拿的
metal性价比太低），一个普通的reg一小时就打够了200了，如果不是太高级别的游戏
，就没有game selection问题，实在想不出有什么理由打够之后不去PS赚VPP。每天刚
好200点+rakeback相当于supernova 300k vpp的rakeback，但是之后价值就巨减少了。 |
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c*********g
发帖数: 37 | 50 Thanks for contacting RakeBackPros.
I have checked with Full Tilt Poker and it appears that your Full Tilt
account is already attached to another affiliate. This means that you are
currently not eligible to receive rakeback from us.
We will keep your player id and if we can offer you rakeback in the future
we will contact you directly.
Unfortunately, we have no further information about your current affiliate.
We're sorry we can't be of further assistance at this time. |
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