g**s
发帖数: 1114 | 1 Got following reply, looks like the rush poker bonus hit the RB...
250*27%=67.5
Hi,
Thank you for contacting Rakebackpros.
We have checked your account with Full Tilt and it appears that your recent
Rush Week Bonus was qualified as part of the deduction, however, our website
was not able to pick this up accordingly and is therefore not correctly
displayed. We apologize for the inconvenience caused.
We are working on this stats issue and hope to have this resolved as soon as
possible.
Thank you f... 阅读全帖 |
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T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 3 hooo, that is hilarious.
no wonder i only got 16 bucks.
recent
website
as |
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T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 4 isn't that crazy, is it?
that is why i said i almost brain dead after playing so. many hands.
down 3.5 buyin when holdem manager showed i should be up 178 dollars after
all thosr hands. that just showed that 1. i was almost card dead. since
even 178 winning is small number for the hand i played. 2. i got fxxked left
and right by ftp bad beats. really frustrated.
windstorm, you should take a break too. playing so many hours really taxing
your body and mind. the bonus kind overrated because it... 阅读全帖 |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 5 没漏掉啥。 去年共14k. 今年3.5个月有15k. 加上我2009第一个半年1k from sng. 总
共bank roll 是30k. 其中rakeback 和bonus 占一半不到。
好像关键的地方给删除了。。。
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B*********s
发帖数: 4158 | 7 这个bonus clear的时候是像铁人年终奖那样不影响rake back的么 |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 9 rb网站问题 or you have other trans like withdrawals/using FTP points, etc.
要伤 |
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h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 10 听说85%的人赔钱，10%的人不赚不赔靠rakeback，剩下的是赚钱的！ |
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g**s
发帖数: 1114 | 11 Rough calculation for 3000 per day.
you have to keep 3000 average per day so let's count on yearly basis:
3000*4*365=4.38M points.
4.38M = $19K cash bonus in BC store.
clearing Cash bonus does have 27% rakeback hit, so you only get
19K*(1-27%) = $13870 net assume you can clear them on time.
3000 points per day is about $60 rackback, so
total rackback is 60*365=$21.9K
IM yearly bonus = $1200
IM medals = (900+20*30) *12 = 18000 medals = $3340(if you use 140 medals to
exchange $26 ticket)
other ftp... 阅读全帖 |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 12 no, it's 10 points/$1 rake now.
point
rakeback |
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g**s
发帖数: 1114 | 13 I could be wrong, I get $20 for 1000 points purly based on my past 4 NL100
rush table experience. so different game could be different for sure.
point
rakeback |
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h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 14 Does bonus affect rakeback?
It seems during happy hours, the FTP points calculated for bonus is not
affected, maybe always 1x. |
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h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 15 so if you get $100 bonus, you'll get exactly $100 hit in rakeback? then it
doesn't make much sense... |
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c****1
发帖数: 457 | 16 你强。我刚在sharkscope查了一下，一共打了大约2000把 $110buy in HU， rake交了1
万，赢了8300， 最后竟亏1700， ROI -1%, 郁闷。觉得HU tournament抽水抽太多了。
没有那27% rakeback现在看来很亏， 2700刀啊，操。
regular
not |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 17 dude, relax, like i told u before, this small money is not going to change
our lives in any way. it's only for fun. well, i know, it's easier said than
done, hehe.
1) don't set daily goals like $50 or whatever, this will make you hesitant
in good situations or overplay in unfavorable ones. it's a meaningless goal
, even durrrr or any other pro can't guarantee they make XXXX every day. if
you have to have one to make yourself calm, try to set an even lower one,
like breaking even at least everyda... 阅读全帖 |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 18 dude, "f**king Ftp decided to take my winnings away", no, they don't do this
. nobody (let him be a pro or fish) builds or loses most of their winnings
from AA vs. KK or other coolers.
the earlier we can get rid of this idea, the sooner we can face/fix our
leaks, indeed.
and, don't single table rush, it's a waste of energy and potential good
rakeback. if you feel 2 100NL are too intensive for you, come down to join me
with 2-3 50NL tables.
adj
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 19 如果你真是打算一天$50就拉倒，真的劝你来50NL吧，2-3 tables，一样的投资在桌子
上，容易多了。
点数，rakeback可能还得的多些。
fold
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my |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 20 as said, the player pool is drying out, for example, any 3/6NL or higher
cash games are pretty much dead (a few tables don't count at all). and a lot
of regs are moving down to small stakes just to get action.
so now volume is much more important than ever, have to put in a lot of
games/hours, and rakeback is critical.
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 21 俺觉得不好，兄弟你这个有点矫枉过正。
10NL肯定也有一些不错的选手，只是资金什么的问题而已，比如国内的，一天要是能赢
你这个$15，在国内很多地方生活费都有了，呵呵。
但是俺觉得你这个降的太多太快，完全没有必要，你怎么着在100NL也有几万甚至10万
手了吧？起伏很大肯定有原因，技术，资金，心理，运气肯定都有。如果说打起来让你
很累很辛苦，俺觉得50NL，或者最低25NL应该可以了，没有必要退那么远。
也没有必要只放$200，俺个人很不以为然很多pro号称$50，$100起家，never look
back的传奇，俺相信它们，但是那样的传奇在如今竞争激烈的环境里，几乎无法复制，
chris也打了将近一年。
俺的原则是不要因为钱多钱少成为一种心理负担，比如$200，现在$215了，明天不走运
，又下到比如$150(呸呸呸)，而对你的打法，心理，或者新玩法尝试造成什么负面影响
。你我都不缺这200块钱，但是有时候人爱较真，觉得这$200因为是原始基金，特“宝
贵”什么的，或者比如要再存$200就比较丧气...
大大方方存个比如$1000，2000，玩25NL，50NL都比较舒服了，每天也... 阅读全帖 |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 22 as a pro, you know your best weapon is VOLUME in the long term.
800 games in a week, or 3200 games a month, from rakeback alone, it'll be
3200*1.5*27%=$576, and 48K base points (easily 100K+ since you're black card
)=$500.
by only breaking even, you're already making $1076 profit as your bottom
line, any small x% ROI on top of that could push this to much higher.
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 23 Yeah.
Calculation mistake?(3200*1.5*27%=$1296)
Maybe I need put more volume into the
game. The rakeback alone should be an encouragement for me.
I am still experimenting, not sure how much volume is optimal for me.
Thanks King!
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 24 来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 一月小小结 en? how come rakeback is that low? isn't it proportional to your winnings?
even i could make $200+ from 50NL, fewer hands fewer tables. |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 25 来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 一月小小结 My stats is consistently at 14 11 nowadays. It is definitely not nitty by any means in rush. You can show your vpip vs mine otherwise. I think it is because I don't play huge amount of big pots. My post flop aggression is very very selective~ My style of play decided that I am a bigger loser on rakeback with the new rake calculation system. |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 26 来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 一月小小结 Thanks!
I think your calculation is not correct.
You calculate your BC cash bonus as 500*(1-27%), however, your actual
rakeback has already counted it in. Therefore, your BC cash should be 500$
instead of 500*(1-27%). |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 27 this type of short stackers is common at all levels, actually i think at
lower levels, it works better since there're more donks to pay them off when
they do have a hand, and with a short stack, they play pre-flop much
stronger, which adds fold equity against a lot of speculative hands like small
PP or SCs, which need implied odds. after all, few hands can stand a 10x
preflop action and most likely fold/commit situation on flop.
40BB is good for a 3 bet preflop and pot shove on the flop.
their m... 阅读全帖 |
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s*******o
发帖数: 4896 | 28 If I can achieve 5% for 6-handed ST SNG, I would earn a lot of money......
For $10 buy-ins, I can only achieve around $15/h by 6 tabling.
I can also get more than $5/h from rakeback.
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 29 welcome, new faces!
warning: it'll be a LOOOOONG way ahead, be aware of that, lol.
disclaimer: check your local legislation to make sure online poker is not
illegal, and be aware of UIGEA.
1) either FTP or PS will be fine, they're the two most reputable and largest
sites. before you sign up with FTP, make sure you read about FAQ and
rakeback.
we have weekly games on FTP and cash game on PS on sat., feel free to watch
or join us.
2) HUD, here more guys use holdem manager.
3) tourney books, harrin... 阅读全帖 |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 30 let EV MM explain her train of thought bah, hehe.
as for deposit, again, check your local legislation first, in some states
like WA, it's illegal. also, read about rakeback and sign up properly.
how much to deposit? it's totally YMMV, if you're fine with $600, then do it
since you can maximize deposit bonus (needs to be cleared by playing). or
you just want to test water, $100 will be fine too.
unless you have quite some expr. already, i'd suggest you start from low
levels like 10NL (0.05/0.1 NL... 阅读全帖 |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 31 Patience man. This month is not over yet. A terrible month for me. after
the last graph I showed with at least 5 buy in downswing every day for 7 days and one 10 buy in downswing. I had another 12 buy in downswing later of the month.
Winrate of the month 2.4bb/100 hand. Total profit, 2000$ including rakeback.
In short, Fish runs very hot against me this month but we still come on
top in the end. HOHO...
disclaimer: not a showoff, but a summary of my terrible experience. |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 32 a little more about the second downswing. I went uner 700$ for one of
weekdays playing until 1am. I was pissed so I took a day off the next day to
win it back. I played almost 7 hour for that day in the day time. BREAK
EVEN for the day after that (didn't win anything back). And played another 2 hour at night, down another 500$. I played 10k hands that day alone. That is 1/6th of my total hands (60k) for the month. Quite an experience. It is nothing like it~~~ lol... One of the rare occation... 阅读全帖 |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 33 good work, how to handle a bad month really defines a good and bad player.
2K/month is still way above avg. players, you can officially claim yourself
to be able to make a living now, lol.
after
days and one 10 buy in downswing. I had another 12 buy in downswing later of
the month.
rakeback. |
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T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 34 I am f*cking grinding in NL 10 level in Feb, started with $200, like I post
before, grind + rakeback to $420. Running pretty good I have admit, because
I hardly play any hands and maybe play once every other day.
Then I broke my bankroll management plan and jump to NL25. In my original
plan, I can only do so when my bankroll reach 500.
Run up my bank roll to $540 pretty quickly and then one day I lost four buy-
in and lost $110 (Playing bad and got sucked out) and my bankroll back to $
429.
To p... 阅读全帖 |
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c****1
发帖数: 457 | 35 you are true grinder. nice steady second income.
i feel myself more like a recreational player. no discipline.
play too much FTOP events, down maybe 3000 this month.
FTP muilti entry is a bloody money sucker.
after
days and one 10 buy in downswing. I had another 12 buy in downswing later of
the month.
rakeback. |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 36 来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 炒股和打牌 其实要赚个小钱还行... yost123和我算了算, If you can 4 table rush NL100 average 6 hours per day with 1bb/100hand, which can give you 3000ftp points per day, you can make around $100k per year (including rakeback, iron man medal, ftp points). If you 4 table NL200, you can reach this around 4 hour of playing (not confirmed yet but close). Not bad at all. Imagine if you can 6 or 8 table rush and break even, you can reach $100k per year even playing less time. The fact that you can do this even with smallest win... 阅读全帖 |
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p*******p
发帖数: 13670 | 37 来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 炒股和打牌 你忘记税了，这个税很高吧
average 6 hours per day with 1bb/100hand, which can give you 3000ftp points
per day, you can make around $100k per year (including rakeback, iron man
medal, ftp points). If you 4 |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 38 for rush, it's a dilemma, or, nobody can really play so called A game here.
4 tables rush = 16+ regular tables, you have about less than 3 secs to make
a quick decision after checking notes/stats (if possible), so a lot of
decisions are auto or semi-auto.
on the other hand, rush does give you a large volume, in terms of bb/100 or
rakeback or whatever.
enemy is also myself to try to play A game at all time. |
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T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 39 hi, mm: you up 1.8 k already this month. only a little bit over the month?
that is good result nonetheless. rakeback could add another 1k.
how many hours you have put in ? do you have an estimate? I am asking this
because I have some modest success in live game on recent weeks. I did an
analysis, I spent one day each week to and from casino is about 12 hour each
session of which 5 hours spent on the road. but I can sleep on the bus or
read book. if I can win 2k for a month (48 hours) , that tr... 阅读全帖 |
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T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 40 the problem is i am not getting withdraw money either,
usually they just transfer the bank transfer to wire in a couple week. now
they are not doing it any more. I guess that cost them too much. if you can'
t get your money out, even you close your bank account , you are losing
money because you actually win some money from the game and rakeback, now
you can't withdraw them?
I used wire transfer to withdraw $700 today, let us see what happens. Anyway
I don't play online game alot these days. the... 阅读全帖 |
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T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 41 我今天也犯驴脾气了。
钱全提出来后，这个月给发了 83 快 rakeback，想想就当 freeroll 打把，不小心打
到 220。
结果一副牌用 AK 坚持 3 barrel，被 villian 咬牙用一对 9 call 到底，损失 100
多buyin，几副冤家牌以后，连 80 多块的老本都光荣牺牲了。郁闷啊。
ABC 打法在 rush small stake 还是王道。过多的 fancy play 得不偿失。 |
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r****r
发帖数: 1394 | 42 watched your video and agree that your skill can probably beat 25NL 6m to
death (over 99% of the time to be conservative, hehe)
also believe that 100NL 6m is a tougher game than 100NL fr. 50NL 6m? donno.
i thnk you can beat 50NL 6m but $/hr should be lower than now.
another thought: in PS vpp policy, 6max player get more vpp than fr for the
same amount of $ in the pot. dont know about FTP rakeback policy.
confident
to
a
completely
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g**s
发帖数: 1114 | 43 yeah, very expensive. I guess it's $40-50 RB per withdraw. |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 44 in the old days, i figured it used to cost about $10 per cashout for e-
checks, checks, etc. FTP was able to "digest" some extra costs by their
large volume and customer base. but other smaller sites like doyles room,
always charge $30 or so for cashouts, which i think is closer to the "real"
cost to have 3rd party processors (normally overseas) handle such things.
but now, FTP has to convert a lot of these cashouts to wire or other costly
methods, and i think they have a lot of deposit/withdraw... 阅读全帖 |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 45 you won't pay the fee "directly", but it will hurt your rakeback. |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 46 wuwuwu
Rakeback pro.
Actually, yesterday, One guy complained to me twice that I do not table selection, and I always sit with him.
When I run well, ppl will give me some strange comment.
Go die
I hate you, pokery!
my nightmare
Why do you block your stats. |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 47 rakeback alone 4 table NL100 rush is close to 10$/hour |
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s*******o
发帖数: 4896 | 48 haha, march is terrible for me.
Only the rakeback make me avoid bankrupt |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 49 stupid FTP must get 5k rakeback from me. |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 50 can not compare with windstormm's hourly rate, but my rakeback is higher. |
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