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j*******7
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - How clear do we need the evidence?
3.3 How clear do we need the evidence?
Evidence supporting the Bible's believability and the existence of God is
not absent, it is abundant. Of course, several reasonable challenges at this
point include asking:
So why do we have to read the Bible and study history for proof of these
things?
If the Bible explains the only true salvation, why doesn't God do something
to make that obvious to us?
And if these things are so important and so real, why don't we see crystal
clear evidence for them?"
Th... 阅读全帖
T*****n
发帖数: 2456
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印第安人Ute people的悲惨史。
—— 读 Black Hawk War (1865–72) 有感。
来围观一下Bear River大屠杀
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bear_River_Massacre
the Mormon settlers in Cache Valley expressed their gratitude for "the
movement of Col. Connor as an intervention of the Almighty" in their behalf.
Circleville屠杀,居然被称为“Incident”
http://historytogo.utah.gov/utah_chapters/american_indians/circ
战争结局,摩门教徒可以大胆西进犹它的时候,也是Ute的悲剧:
Black Hawk's War was a disaster for the Northern Utes. They were forced
permanently onto the Uintah Reser... 阅读全帖
h*********e
发帖数: 123
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来自主题: SJTU版 - 瘦下来了
because of the food. I moved to Venezuela, so far 7.5 months, also lost some
weight too.
few weeks ago, there was a report saying: during the evolution of human being,
starvation was the main drive, but now, we are facing the opposite problem,
obviously our body is not ready for this.


n********e
发帖数: 24
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he said ftp and http, tcp starvation could be a reason
w********r
发帖数: 14958
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来自主题: CS版 - 请问关于mpi的问题
https://computing.llnl.gov/tutorials/mpi/
Fairness:
MPI does not guarantee fairness - it's up to the programmer to prevent "
operation starvation".
Example: task 0 sends a message to task 2. However, task 1 sends a competing
message that matches task 2's receive. Only one of the sends will complete.

求,
W***o
发帖数: 6519
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来自主题: Programming版 - java concurrency
这个可以用比较经典的“几个哲学家用筷子吃饭”的例子来打个比方,奇数编号的哲学
家先用左手拿起筷子,lock,然后看看右手的筷子有没有free;偶数编号的哲学家先用
右手拿起筷子,lock,然后等左手的筷子,这样协调吃饭就不会有deadlock,当然这个
不是最优解法(懒得去想当时是怎么做的),因为有的哲学家吃了1000次,有的哲学家
只吃了1次,但是这个不仅避免了deadlock,也避免了starvation.
如果是两个threads 要处理一个shared resources, 可以用两把锁(L1, L2), 而且规
定必须是先获得L1, lock, 再获得L2, lock, (用round robin ?? - unsure) 然后处
理resources。如果一个thread 只看到L2 free, 规定它不能acquire L2.
这样判断对吗?或者请大牛说说更简单的方法?
h**********c
发帖数: 4120
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来自主题: Programming版 - 用volatile退出线程对不对?(C++)
不是不对,是对同步得理解,同步没有semaphore或其他synchronization 机制会
starvation
说到这里,你对slicing得理解是怎样的,在什么样的情况下,你认为你应该研究一下
slicing?
k****n
发帖数: 158
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最近老板要我同步化MEF(mouse embryonic fibroblast) 在G2期然后释放(release)
,分析
细胞分裂(cell division);
请问有什么效率比较高的protocol推荐吗,只考虑用化学试剂的方法来诱导--我认为这
样最省事;-
)。
当然在发帖之前我也google了一下,没有找到一个非常通用的方法,一些文献说用血清
饥饿法(serum
starvation);我担心效率不会太高,而且好像同步在G1期,还有一些提到离心分离的
方法,这个对
我来说就太麻烦了。
最后找到下面的组合:
1)Thymidine-Nocodazole block
2)Aphidicolin and Hoechst
各位在做细胞分裂的大虾们,能不能提点下比较好的方法,或者帮我分析分析如上方法
是否可行?
不胜感激!
a***a
发帖数: 40617
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来自主题: Biology版 - 外行问一个问题
starvation超过72hr才会开始动用脂肪
而且一开始还是以代谢自身蛋白为主,其次才是脂肪
atkins就是补这些蛋白
X***n
发帖数: 366
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Autophagy, starvation, etc.
h*******o
发帖数: 4884
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There are a few possibilities, depends on your area of interest
For me, I would check their glucose level. As rodents reliy heavily on
ketone bodies rather than glucose during suckling stage, once they are weaned they would have to
convert to a glucose-dependent phenotype.
If somehow your KO mice have defect in glucose metabolism, they will die.
And they technically die of starvation.
Just a hypothesis. If that hits your case, it will be interesting.
s**********e
发帖数: 2888
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我还看过一个组发的一系列的cancer research,报道一个分子在各种癌细胞的
proliferation,就是MTT assay做出来的。我就去重复了,atcc新买的细胞,各种浓度
,时间,serum starvation, collagen coating,mtt, brdu,能试的都试了,什么效果
也看不到。
给那个组发信,没有任何回复。给合作小组写信,合作组说他们也什么都没有看到,而
且那个分子理论上应该被cancer research的cell line很快的降解掉,所以应该是什么
效果也看不到。

6
chemical
w**********7
发帖数: 9
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clonebar, 从你的分析觉得你对high throughput了解很多,所以能请教你个问题吗?
如能得
到回复,非常感谢。
通常我们在用high throughput array时,是已知A(A=某基因或某种condition),然后改
变A
(delete/mutateA基因)或者改变condiation(stress/starvation),然后看gemonez几
千个基因中哪些表达发生改变。简单点说,改变A是原因,我们来找谁是结果。
但是在我的case里,我是已知我要的结果或者说是phenotype,即某RNA processing不
正常时
的状态。我需要找的是所有会导致这个状态的基因。换句话说,也就是为我感兴趣的结
果找原因。
我今天和lab里了解array的人谈,他们给不出好的建议,因为他们都说现在array都是
用来做上述
的第一种情况。所以如果你对相关技术有所了解,能恳请你给我一些信息吗?
m******g
发帖数: 69
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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20810907
A role for AMPK in increased insulin action after serum starvation
Am J Physiol Cell Physiol November 2010 299:(5) C1171-C1179; published ahead
of print September 1, 2010,
p****y
发帖数: 23737
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来自主题: Biology版 - 少吃有助于保持大脑健康
几个有影响的媒体比如LA Times曾讨论短期禁食的好处,基本意思就是说每过一段
时间短期禁食,比如一天,对人体很可能有好处。Link:
http://articles.latimes.com/2009/feb/02/health/he-fasting2
还有NPR一篇文章:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=16513299
Retune The Body With A Partial Fast
November 21, 2007
For thousands of years, beginning with philosophers like Hippocrates,
Socrates and Plato, fasting was recommended for health reasons. The Bible
writes that Moses and Jesus fasted for 40 days for spiritual renewal.
To understand how the body reac... 阅读全帖
L*******e
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来自主题: Biology版 - 少吃有助于保持大脑健康
For a long time starvation/calories restriction has been considered as one
prominent way to slow down aging or increase longevity. : )
Increasing expression of sirtuin proteins has been indicated to extend
lifespan on models such as C. Elegans and Drosophila melanogaster.
However, lately there are some controversies on the effects of sir2 gene on
longevity . Some people question the genetic back-crossing artifacts on
those transgentic models maybe the direct cause of sirtuin's protective
effec... 阅读全帖
c**a
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384的盘子用CHO做ICW, 种细胞之后和第二天早上都好好的, 到了做serum starve 之后
一看好多细胞被洗掉了,但是奇怪的是正中间的不掉,贴壁一圈不掉,而是周边的细胞都
没了, western染色之后看起来像个'回'字. 具体样子在附件里. 我确定的一点是之后
的treatment 和western步骤并没有显著的让细胞减少, 所以貌似问题在用plain
medium 洗细胞和serum starvation步骤上. 是这样的吗, 怎么避免呢, 洗的时候很
gentle了, 怎么可以更gentle呢?
y******8
发帖数: 1764
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来自主题: Biology版 - 求爱不成的雄果蝇会借酒消愁
It would not be that simple. Flies probably use the smell of alcohol for
food tracking.So, separtion of alcohol and food is not that straignt forward
in flies.
On the other hand, quantification of food intake has to be done after
starvation, which might complicate the feeding behavior after sex.
g******w
发帖数: 852
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来自主题: Biology版 - paper help again!
No1
Sci. Signal., 2 February 2010
Vol. 3, Issue 107, p. ra8
[DOI: 10.1126/scisignal.2000568]
RESEARCH ARTICLES
T. Kino, D. E. Hurt, T. Ichijo, N. Nader, G. P. Chrousos, Noncoding RNA Gas5
Is a Growth Arrest– and Starvation-Associated Repressor of the
Glucocorticoid Receptor. Sci. Signal. 3, ra8 (2010).
No2
Long noncoding RNAs and human disease Review Article
Trends in Cell Biology, Volume 21, Issue 6, June 2011, Pages 354-361
Orly Wapinski, Howard Y. Chang
No3
RNA Biol. 2010 Sep-Oct; 7(5): 582–5... 阅读全帖
c**a
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目前做的是1个小时serum starvation, 细胞受各种treatment. western 总是得不到
phospho信号, 不知道有没有什么试剂是可以诱导明显的p38磷酸化增加,这样我可以用
来做positive control. 抗体用的是cell signaling的. 用cell signaling 的cell
extract跑western, 这个抗体可以很好的识别phospho-p38.
求指教.
B****w
发帖数: 48
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1个小时serum starvation时间太短了。
k****o
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一个小时starvation太短了吧,文献里各种细胞很多都是6-24小时
你total p38有信号没?
k****o
发帖数: 589
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来自主题: Biology版 - 当细胞培养液换成serum free...
看你养什么细胞了。有的会stress,有的会挂掉。serum starvation少于12小时的实验
我多半都不信。
S**********e
发帖数: 1789
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质量咱不知道, 不过eLife开了个好头
The starvation hormone, fibroblast growth factor-21, extends lifespan in
mice
5个figure 1个table
Received: 12 July 2012
Accepted: 04 September 2012
Published: 15 October 2012
The unfolded protein response in fission yeast modulates stability of select
mRNAs to maintain protein homeostasis
Received: 9 July 2012
Accepted: 23 July 2012
Published: 15 October 2012
杜绝reviewer满天要价,无限拖延
S**********e
发帖数: 1789
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质量咱不知道, 不过eLife开了个好头
The starvation hormone, fibroblast growth factor-21, extends lifespan in
mice
5个figure 1个table
Received: 12 July 2012
Accepted: 04 September 2012
Published: 15 October 2012
The unfolded protein response in fission yeast modulates stability of select
mRNAs to maintain protein homeostasis
Received: 9 July 2012
Accepted: 23 July 2012
Published: 15 October 2012
杜绝reviewer满天要价,无限拖延
j********r
发帖数: 156
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碰巧刚看到几篇关于氨基酸代谢的文章,大牛来点评一下。
1. Serine starvation induces stress and p53-dependent metabolic remodelling
in cancer cells (nature, 2013)
2. Serine, but Not Glycine, Supports One-Carbon Metabolism and Proliferation
of Cancer Cells (Cell reports, 2014)
3. Phosphoglycerate dehydrogenase diverts glycolytic flux and contributes to
oncogenesis (Nature genetics, 2011)
4. Functional genomics reveal that the serine synthesis pathway is essential
in breast cancer (nature, 2011)
elife刚发了一片关于metformin的文章。俺愣是没看... 阅读全帖
s******y
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来自主题: Biology版 - 分子进化机制和环境的关系
昨天晚上听了Susan Lindquist 有关HSP90 的讲座后被震惊了。虽然以前这里也有人提
起过她以前的文章,但是那些文章都是一些计算分析为主的,所以我也比较不怎么当一
回事。昨天她谈了她们做的一些关于防止真菌进化出抗药性的实验,HSP90
抑制剂对于真菌没有直接杀伤力,但是综合和其他有直接杀伤力的药一起用的时候可以
非常好的防止真菌出现抗药性而复发。她最后的结论是HSP90的活性对于容忍机体的进
化有重要作用。高活性的HSP90会导致突变体能够成功存活下来。听完之后我忍不住跑
上去问了她几个问题,其中一个就是关于挨饿的问题,因为在starvation的时候据说那
些HSP活性会升高,那这样是不是会导致群体里面出现突变的几率升高?她毫不犹豫地
就说会,并说她们在酵母里面已经看到了类似现象了。然后我问了她有关HSP 在癌症
metastasis 里的因素的问题,她说她们正在做。
我其实还有另外一个问题,就是有关HSP90掩盖表型的问题,因为高活性HSP90虽然能够
导致突变体能够成功存活下来,但是貌似也会在表面上使得其表型趋于中性化? 如此说
来,这个机制是在保证机体总体大致稳定... 阅读全帖
e*******o
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来自主题: Biology版 - 分子进化机制和环境的关系
学习了。 看到哪个starvation,忍不住笑了。
l**********1
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来自主题: Biology版 - DNA Transfection问题
不用谢
Li D et al. (2011)
HSP90 Causes Aberrant Stabilization of Mutant p53 in
Functional Inactivation of Endogenous MDM2 and CHIP by human cancer cells
Mol Cancer Res. 9: 577–588.
HTTP: //www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3097033/
plus
参看艳阳天jj/mm 的原帖下吧
昨天晚上听了Susan Lindquist 有关HSP90 的讲座后被震惊了。虽然以前这里也有人提
起过她以前的文章,但是那些文章都是一些计算分析为主的,所以我也比较不怎么当一
回事。昨天她谈了她们做的一些关于防止真菌进化出抗药性的实验,HSP90
抑制剂对于真菌没有直接杀伤力,但是综合和其他有直接杀伤力的药一起用的时候可以
非常好的防止真菌出现抗药性而复发。她最后的结论是HSP90的活性对于容忍机体的进
化有重要作用。高活性的HSP90会导致突变体能够成功存活下来。听完之后我忍不住跑... 阅读全帖
C**S
发帖数: 522
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来自主题: Biology版 - 问做autophagy的同学一些问题
图片是U2Os GFP-LC3细胞,还没有给予starvation。以这个图为例,有很多问题,一
一求教
1:如何定量。大家用软件还是手动数,软件的话有什么软件推荐?
2:还是定量问题:看到说autophagosome大小在0.5-1.5uM,照片上的很多小点是小于
这一值的,是不是只数大于0.5uM的?
3: 怎么解决heterogeneity的问题。看autophagy文章error bar都很小。怎么培养细
胞才能减少对照细胞的autophagy? 同样的问题在starve之后也存在。
4:细胞在EBSS里starve6小时,也没看见GFP puncta明显增加,是不是有什么没有注意
到的问题?还是在这个荧光定量的实验中,大家都是默认加inhibitor的比如bafA1,即
使实验方法中没有明确说明?
预先感谢大家能够一一解答。
l****j
发帖数: 70
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请问有查过 p62 吗?
我自己观察在starvation 3小时情况下,p62会降解, 但在rapamycin 3-12 小时后 ,
p62 都没变化, 我用的是HT1080 cell
r******k
发帖数: 446
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Thaaaanks! I used 0.5% FBS for starvation.

cell
m******g
发帖数: 467
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Nature 14.10.02
推荐:
1. Promoter sequences direct cytoplasmic localization and translation of
mRNAs during starvation in yeast
稍微了解一下:
1. A long noncoding RNA protects the heart from pathological hypertrophy
小知识:
1. Ancient roots of daily rhythm
2. Molecular basis of adaptation to high soil boron in wheat landraces and
elite cultivars
3. Parent-of-origin-specific allelic associations among 106 genomic loci for
age at menarche
s******y
发帖数: 28562
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首先,确认你的WB没有问题。这个对于新手是常出的问题。
第二,有些蛋白的mRNA是过量的,平时只有少量的会被翻译,其他的放着备用,在
stress response 或者细胞分裂的时候才会用上。所以你在平时来检测蛋白含量是看不
出来区别的。如果要确认这些问题,一个最简单的方法是用serum starvation --> add
back serum 的方式来激发细胞来使用大部分mRNA
b**********8
发帖数: 349
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谢谢各位朋友的回复,特别是insider1和sunnyday提供的详细解释和建议。想请问
sunny老师,你提到的这个serum starvation --> add back serum处理应该是转染
siRNA之前还是之后呢?谢谢!
s******y
发帖数: 28562
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来自主题: Biology版 - 肘子还没发表评论?
关于常山对疟原虫的疗效,正好今年在 Science Translational Medicine 上面有一篇
文章。
应该指出的是,常山即使在中药里,也是被视为一种虎狼之药的,因为其副作用太大,
属于在迫不得已的情况下才会用的药(疟疾在古代算是迫不得已的病情了)。但是它对
疟原虫的确是有效果的,这个也是不能否认的。葛洪收集的那个方子里,42个方子中有
14个还是13个是用这个常山的,这个可以说明那些方子并不是完全胡说八道的。
http://stm.sciencemag.org/content/7/288/288ra77.abstract?sid=7f
The cytoplasmic prolyl-tRNA synthetase of the malaria parasite is a dual-
stage target of febrifugine and its analogs
Abstract The emergence of drug resistance is a major limitation of current
antimalarials. The discover... 阅读全帖
d*****y
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Average entry lvl salary for ppl migrate to NYC last year was 32k/year.
I dont remember seeing on Wall Street Journal that thousands of 22 year old
died due to starvation.

was
d***i
发帖数: 93
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来自主题: MedicalCareer版 - 求大牛帮忙解答nbme12中一道题!
Q:a 25y/o man is lost in the desert for 1 week with an ample supply of water
but no food. Which of the following changes in enzyme activities and
regulatory molecule concentrations in liver is most likely in this pt?
(1)Fructose 2,6-bisphosphate:increase or decrease
(2)Glucose 6-phosphatase: inc or dec
(3)Phosphoenolpyruvate Carboxykinase: inc or dec
(4)Pyruvate Kinase: inc or dec
我选了全降低,错了!查了网上解释,大多数说(1)(4)因为参与glycolysis,所以
降低,(2)(3)因为参与gluconeogenesis所以升高。
但有一个解释说应该只有(2)升高。因为starvation >3days,... 阅读全帖
l**********t
发帖数: 1212
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来自主题: Nursing版 - 请教1个NCLEX 的怀孕问题
I did a research and found that HG can induce acidosis due to starvation.
I***i
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http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn23288-birds-evolve-shorte
Birds evolve shorter wings to survive on roads
Nature, red in wheel and fender. Birds in Nebraska have evolved shorter
wings, which may help them avoid dying on roads by taking off quickly and
darting away from cars.
Eighty million US birds are killed by traffic each year. Cliff swallows (
Petrochelidon pyrrhonota) have taken to nesting on road bridges, so may be
especially vulnerable.
Charles Brown of the University of Tulsa in Okl... 阅读全帖
e********y
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来自主题: _Auto_Fans版 - <讨论> Best used performance car 30k-40k
主要是daily drive,经常会去track和autox。handling neutral,可以在几乎纯
stock的情况下
承受track day的workload。所以要没有大的oil starvation overheat或者引擎
transmission可靠性问题。原厂suspension要比较好,之前看了996tt感觉很好,但去
论坛一查不砸个1w handling也就一般。
目前看了看e92 m3不错,11年后的貌似解决了rod bearing的问题。原厂稍微有点under
steer,但以后换轮胎size就能调整。不知大家有没有别的推荐?
w*******y
发帖数: 60932
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w****2
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来自主题: _Mao_and_Deng版 - 锡安长老教义(整理贴) (转载)
【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: wlwl12 (戒网), 信区: Military
标 题: 锡安长老教义(整理贴)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Dec 20 12:09:32 2011, 美东)
发信人: youdu (youdu), 信区: Military
标 题: 军版各位,有没有研究过锡安长老教义?
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Nov 26 13:15:49 2011, 美东)
对理解过去三百年很有帮助。
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/przion1.htm#TABLE OF CONTENTS
THE PROTOCOLS DIGEST-ED
Since discourse in the Protocols is often disjointed, we have taken the
liberty of grouping quotations (from Victor Marsden's 1934 edition) in what
seems a logical order of su... 阅读全帖
wh
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来自主题: _WHandFriends版 - 【版庆活动】版史旧文重贴 (转载)
【 以下文字转载自 LoveNLust 讨论区 】
发信人: NWWolf (西北の狼), 信区: LoveNLust
标 题: 【版庆活动】版史旧文重贴
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Oct 6 13:01:56 2012, 美东)
去年旧文一篇,值此版庆之际,当属应景;或许新人中尚有对上古版史不甚
了了者,可供参考。
发信人: NWWolf (西北の狼), 信区: LoveNLust
标 题: History of the LoveNLust Gang: Book of Genesis
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Feb 8 01:27:12 2011, 美东)
We hereby dedicate the following words to WH, one of the most
celebrated scholars and authors on all of MITBBS, and the latest in
a long line of inquirers who have asked this historian about the
mys... 阅读全帖
wh
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来自主题: _WHandFriends版 - 【版庆活动】版史旧文重贴 (转载)
发信人: wh (wh), 信区: LoveNLust
标 题: Re: 【版庆活动】版史旧文重贴
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Oct 6 18:07:30 2012, 美东)
跟贴dome当时翻译+创造的古文版版史姊妹篇,这也是我印象最深的文情版帖子之一,
上次忘了说了。荣幸成为你们的引子!
发信人: Dome (河东狮不吼~~给我打分吧 :P), 信区: LoveNLust
标 题: 国史文情群英传:开国篇--翻译狼兄大作
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Feb 10 00:42:22 2011, 美东)
狼兄写的真好,我最近突然喜欢上了古文,就借花献佛,把狼兄的文章翻版一个,请各
位高手指教~~~~
We hereby dedicate the following words to WH, one of the most celebrated
scholars and authors on all of MITBBS, and the latest in a long line of
inquirers who have asked this histo... 阅读全帖
t*****y
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Summary of the Amazon EC2 and Amazon RDS Service Disruption in the US East
Region
Now that we have fully restored functionality to all affected services, we
would like to share more details with our customers about the events that
occurred with the Amazon Elastic Compute Cloud (揈C2 last week, our
efforts to restore the services, and what we are doing to prevent this sort
of issue from happening again. We are very aware that many of our customers
were significantly impacted by this event, and as ... 阅读全帖
b**********y
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starvation to death
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