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D*****t 发帖数: 558 | 2 There are no clear answers to questions like: does marathon hurt my heart?
Does marathon improve my life expectancy? Current studies don't have enuf
evidence to suggest one way or another. At one point, we all have to make a
judgment call, is it worth it? To most of us, distance running is a hobby.
if we have to pay a price for it, so be it. |
c*******r 发帖数: 13580 | 3 这类研究的最大问题是没有controlled sample,人体的variables太多了,基本没有可
能change one without changing others. 除了最显然的结论,没有什么定论。
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【在 D*****t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : There are no clear answers to questions like: does marathon hurt my heart? : Does marathon improve my life expectancy? Current studies don't have enuf : evidence to suggest one way or another. At one point, we all have to make a : judgment call, is it worth it? To most of us, distance running is a hobby. : if we have to pay a price for it, so be it.
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S*********g 发帖数: 7653 | 4 我们系有个70多的教授,跟我说不要跑多了,说他以前一个学生经常跑马拉松,结果到
了40多岁,就bad knees了 |
c*******r 发帖数: 13580 | 5 how does he know he would not have messed his knees otherwise? plenty of
people got bad kness even if they never run in their lives.
【在 S*********g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我们系有个70多的教授,跟我说不要跑多了,说他以前一个学生经常跑马拉松,结果到 : 了40多岁,就bad knees了
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n****u 发帖数: 490 | 6 就目前情况而言,跑步对我膝盖的伤害不如爬山来的大
马拉松之后,膝盖肯定会受伤害,至于这种伤害的累积程度和持续时间就不知道了
【在 w*******e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : "There's no strong evidence running a marathon will hurt them." : http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/10/13/phys-ed-do-marathons-wreck-your-knees/?ref=health
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D*****t 发帖数: 558 | 7 this is called anecdotal evidence. the professor should know better than
anybody else. if i happen to know somebody who runs marathon and has high IQ
, i wouldn't be motivated to run just to improve my IQ.
【在 S*********g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我们系有个70多的教授,跟我说不要跑多了,说他以前一个学生经常跑马拉松,结果到 : 了40多岁,就bad knees了
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w*******s 发帖数: 980 | 8 Agree. Good example.
Another one: My father has bad knees. Lots people of his age in the same
building have bad knees too. None of them is runner. Can I say, non-runner
will have bad knees?
It reminds me that an article posted a few days ago, the author jumps to
conclusion that "但跑马拉松绝对会很容易老" based on one and only one example
. That's amazing.
anybody else. if i happen to know somebody who runs marathon and has high IQ
, i wouldn't be motivated to run just to improve my IQ.
【在 D*****t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : this is called anecdotal evidence. the professor should know better than : anybody else. if i happen to know somebody who runs marathon and has high IQ : , i wouldn't be motivated to run just to improve my IQ.
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z***h 发帖数: 164 | 9 1. single sample; 2. even for this sample, it is not clear if marathoning is
the cause of bad knees; 3. even if running is the cause, it could be
attributed to improper running form, improper recovery, overtraining,
overweight etc. Any strenuous physical activity, if done improperly, could
result in injury.
【在 S*********g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我们系有个70多的教授,跟我说不要跑多了,说他以前一个学生经常跑马拉松,结果到 : 了40多岁,就bad knees了
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m******g 发帖数: 516 | 10 Unfortunately, I am myself a weak evidence.
On the other hand, tennis hurts elbow, soccer hurts ankle, texas hold'em
hurts wallet, golf hurts emotion.. I am running.
【在 w*******e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : "There's no strong evidence running a marathon will hurt them." : http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/10/13/phys-ed-do-marathons-wreck-your-knees/?ref=health
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c*******r 发帖数: 13580 | 11 as long as you are living, something is gonna hurt. so choose something that
hurts less
【在 m******g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Unfortunately, I am myself a weak evidence. : On the other hand, tennis hurts elbow, soccer hurts ankle, texas hold'em : hurts wallet, golf hurts emotion.. I am running.
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T****a 发帖数: 4651 | 12 Before I started running, I already have arthritis for years. So the choice
I made was b/w a body part that can be replaced with artificial device and
another body part that is much harder to replace (heart). I think we have
also discussed other running risks on this board before, such as heart
attacks. Indeed, running a life style choice more than anything else.
【在 w*******e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : "There's no strong evidence running a marathon will hurt them." : http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/10/13/phys-ed-do-marathons-wreck-your-knees/?ref=health
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y******n 发帖数: 4527 | 13 而且无论结论是无害还是有害,愿意跑的人还是照跑无疑。
辣椒吃了容易上火,可是不吃辣椒怎么过活?一个道理。
【在 c*******r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这类研究的最大问题是没有controlled sample,人体的variables太多了,基本没有可 : 能change one without changing others. 除了最显然的结论,没有什么定论。 : : a
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j******e 发帖数: 129 | 14 赞辣椒理论~~
【在 y******n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 而且无论结论是无害还是有害,愿意跑的人还是照跑无疑。 : 辣椒吃了容易上火,可是不吃辣椒怎么过活?一个道理。
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