d*****0 发帖数: 1500 | 1 my image is aggressive with true hands with kinda high percentage cbet, but
loose limper with 1 or 2 bb, like most of others
bluffing is rarely to c, but ppl fighting or calling huge with good hands,
plus 2 or 3 histories that aa limping and fight to allin with no matter what
on board
here comes the hand:
hero a9s mp raises to 12
2 callers
flop: a9x rainbow
hero delay check, solid grandpa delay bet 25, one fold, hero delay call
turn: x with small back door flush draw
hero check, solid grandpa bet 20, hero raise 60, grandpa call
river: 5, back door flush made
hero check, grandpa check
grandpa shows a5 small 2 pairs
I think it makes sense that grandpa did not bet on river, I wonder if I
missed value on the river, if so, how much should I bet (we both have like
200 bucks left) | W********m 发帖数: 7793 | 2 25 60 125
he is never folding TPGK.
but you will lose even more value by checking any street if he does not have 2 pair. | f*****g 发帖数: 15860 | 3 again, turn check raise is a very reliable pattern of slow played hands, as one pro wrote in cardplayer.
it's kind of wishful thinking that he would call your turn raise AND then bet again on river without a real monster. so your check won't get what you want. it's better to follow your turn action and bet out first.
he connects with flop and it's rare that he'd simply call on turn with a real monster, few low stake players are that sophisticated like this. it's pretty safe to get another $60 or so call from him on river.
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【在 d*****0 的大作中提到】 : my image is aggressive with true hands with kinda high percentage cbet, but : loose limper with 1 or 2 bb, like most of others : bluffing is rarely to c, but ppl fighting or calling huge with good hands, : plus 2 or 3 histories that aa limping and fight to allin with no matter what : on board : here comes the hand: : hero a9s mp raises to 12 : 2 callers : flop: a9x rainbow : hero delay check, solid grandpa delay bet 25, one fold, hero delay call
| p******e 发帖数: 327 | 4 what if he bets $120 on river? will you call?
BTW, can i come with you guys next time? :)
but
what
【在 d*****0 的大作中提到】 : my image is aggressive with true hands with kinda high percentage cbet, but : loose limper with 1 or 2 bb, like most of others : bluffing is rarely to c, but ppl fighting or calling huge with good hands, : plus 2 or 3 histories that aa limping and fight to allin with no matter what : on board : here comes the hand: : hero a9s mp raises to 12 : 2 callers : flop: a9x rainbow : hero delay check, solid grandpa delay bet 25, one fold, hero delay call
| d*****0 发帖数: 1500 | 5 i planned to check/call any, did not bet river coz i thought the 5 is a
blank and can not c any value of my river bet, instead i wanted to see his
hand. anyways, like 2 GURU said,i lost huge value。
to PHATDUDE, did you join our POKER NIGHT yet? 20NL home game is not that
small as you think, recently ppl getting more and more aggressive.... plus
we got bunch of decent gamblers here, worth joining and ez organizing to
foxwoods/mohegansun | h****h 发帖数: 1168 | 6 A is the low end of her range of calling your turn raise,
and she knows it,
so even improved by river, she didn't bet since then.
any value bet on the river she will run away,
or bluff where u can't call, or even a set will beat u to death.
but
what
【在 d*****0 的大作中提到】 : my image is aggressive with true hands with kinda high percentage cbet, but : loose limper with 1 or 2 bb, like most of others : bluffing is rarely to c, but ppl fighting or calling huge with good hands, : plus 2 or 3 histories that aa limping and fight to allin with no matter what : on board : here comes the hand: : hero a9s mp raises to 12 : 2 callers : flop: a9x rainbow : hero delay check, solid grandpa delay bet 25, one fold, hero delay call
| d*****0 发帖数: 1500 | 7 actually i did not put him on high thinking level.
I thought most likely he had a strong ace or worse 2 pairs, his turn bet/
calling banned the most possibility of sets and nuts back door flush draw.
That is the part of the reason that i can not c the value of the river.
but still i will check/call any on the river, coz i am a calling station, i
am not gonna fold top 2 pairs in this situation to live 1/2 grandpa, if he
shows all kinds of strange hands that beat me, then so be it. | g**s 发帖数: 1114 | 8 Dont quite like the turn check-raise, too strong. If you did it, need to bet
on river to get the thin value, otherwise no one would give you action/
value on river without a monster after seeing such a strong line on turn. If
they do give your action on river, you are behind. So bet and fold on river.
I like following lines:
1. bet, bet ,bet. prepared to see sets. --Prefer this if people think I like
to bully
2. bet, check, bet.-- Prefer this if my flop c bet a lot.
3. check, bet, bet.-- Prefer this if people thinks I only c bet if I hits.
Grandpa bet on flop is questionable, I would check here as A5 is way ahead
or way behind situation. Better not to bet on flop. | d*****0 发帖数: 1500 | 9 exactly, 现在想起来感觉自己也没有一个明确的计划,turn上check raise之后对方的
call又觉得已经挤不出什么了。 To that hand, check bet bet应该是最好的,since
my image was tight
围棋哥还是相当的牛逼 ty | p******e 发帖数: 327 | 10 on fb?
his
【在 d*****0 的大作中提到】 : i planned to check/call any, did not bet river coz i thought the 5 is a : blank and can not c any value of my river bet, instead i wanted to see his : hand. anyways, like 2 GURU said,i lost huge value。 : to PHATDUDE, did you join our POKER NIGHT yet? 20NL home game is not that : small as you think, recently ppl getting more and more aggressive.... plus : we got bunch of decent gamblers here, worth joining and ez organizing to : foxwoods/mohegansun
| d*****0 发帖数: 1500 | | g**s 发帖数: 1114 | 12 :)
围棋哥 is me? No one called me 围棋哥...
since
【在 d*****0 的大作中提到】 : exactly, 现在想起来感觉自己也没有一个明确的计划,turn上check raise之后对方的 : call又觉得已经挤不出什么了。 To that hand, check bet bet应该是最好的,since : my image was tight : 围棋哥还是相当的牛逼 ty
| d*****0 发帖数: 1500 | 13 Go不就是围棋么,你以前帖子也提到过,我是有心人 | P*****s 发帖数: 393 | 14 I think the pot is alread good for two pairs. There is no need to bet at the
river.
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【在 d*****0 的大作中提到】 : my image is aggressive with true hands with kinda high percentage cbet, but : loose limper with 1 or 2 bb, like most of others : bluffing is rarely to c, but ppl fighting or calling huge with good hands, : plus 2 or 3 histories that aa limping and fight to allin with no matter what : on board : here comes the hand: : hero a9s mp raises to 12 : 2 callers : flop: a9x rainbow : hero delay check, solid grandpa delay bet 25, one fold, hero delay call
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