T*********e
发帖数: 39815 | 1 身高一样，torso不一定一样，可以差3寸甚至更多 |
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k**e
发帖数: 2728 | 2 艾。。。我腿短我承认。
anyway，:D
该懒的还不能懒，还是得量torso的。就是记性不好，老忘。 |
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c*******k
发帖数: 2427 | 3 只现场试过 jade 50的。
jade 60 torso应该在16 - 18那个范围，否则我不会订的。要过几天收到试过再说感受。
打倒，比我轻那么多：D |
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b**********e
发帖数: 5571 | 4 一个早上没来你们就写了那么多，回头要去REI看看怎么租设备，打算帐篷啥的大件先
租着用，能省不少，等真的上瘾了再添吧，那个torso怎么量啊？ |
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s****t
发帖数: 746 | 6 gregory的包不错，唯一要注意的是他家包torso length是固定的，不可微调，
所以在店里量准了，多花点时间试背，感觉好了再买。
其它牌子，鸟包还可以，如果你买包有防水需求的话。
不知道你买这个包目的是啥？就backpacking的话，你考虑到那倆牌子就不错了。
具体挑哪一款更重要些，根据需要看看feature吧。
过的吗 |
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k**e
发帖数: 2728 | 7 mm 身高体重？torso？
@_@ just curious and see if this would fit me. :)
of course i still need to check it out... just in case anyone would say
anything, haha. |
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T*********e
发帖数: 39815 | 8 身高体重和你一样，torso也可能和你差别很大。。。
另外，即便这些都一样，同样的包不同人背感觉还会不同
一定要亲自去试，别人的观点没法代替你自己的感受 |
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a*****s
发帖数: 838 | 9 hmm... how is the distribution? i suppose the torso is 5mm, where are the 3
and 4mm? thigh/arm 4mm and leg/forearm 3mm? |
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l*****e
发帖数: 494 | 10 这个也在我的 list上头。
Osprey的包是很好，不过你得先知道所需大概容量，去店里量 torso length，装上重
物走一下，才知道哪个更合适。 |
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N****i
发帖数: 40 | 11 个人户外装备一览表
http://bestoutdoorstips.blogspot.com/2012/03/blog-post.html
博主买了两个400g的鹅绒睡袋，发一个个人在用的装备表。很多装备大家应该都熟悉的
。只是就大家感兴趣和常问的一些问题说明一下。这是博主目前的个人出行装备。贴出
来的是双人装备，总重量7294g。如果是单人出行，拿掉一个睡袋和防潮垫，重量为
6030g。考虑到以后很多时候都会是两个人的世界，所以配置上都是双人的考虑。算是
比较轻装了。因为本人在南方活动，所以睡袋选择了最为轻巧的400g鹅绒。
ul方面我的考虑是首先是舒适占主导！在舒适的前提条件下尽量的ul。而不是一味的追
求ul牺牲舒适。下面说一些大家关心的问题：
1。关于背包：花岗岩的烈火算是近期比较热的一个包。1.3kg的重量是目前同等60l里
面算是最轻的吧。有人喜欢说背负系统，而且说出来一套一套的。但是我只想说，如果
你考虑的是全套ul，那么背负系统基本可以忽略讨论。虽然花岗岩的背负系统也不会太
差。烈火我想说的第二个问题是关于升包。首先他空载情况下看起来真的像是一个30l
的包。圆柱形的包... 阅读全帖 |
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e*****a
发帖数: 644 | 12 Osprey Atmos 50的，试着放了大概不到10磅的东西，走路觉得不但东西往后缀，还随
着左右摇晃，是怎么回事？
还有，我量了torso是18， 按说明选的M号，背起来肩带都缩到最短了，我个子不高，5
‘2 是不是应该选小号？ |
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T*********e
发帖数: 39815 | 13 torso length应该是对的
但是背着仍然不舒服，这个和包几何尺寸设计有关
买包，尤其是准备负重的包，一定要亲自试 |
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A******u
发帖数: 1279 | 14 32 yr old male
5'8" tall
166 pounds
BMI = 25.2 (overweight for a white person; even more so for an Asian)
goal: lose weight, improve health
body type: a lot of hypodermic fat on the torso, especially in the belly-
waist-hip area; much less fat distribution on the limbs
I (re)started running in June, first on the streets, but more on treadmills
lately, because of the heat outside. Also on a treadmill I can control my
speed more easily so I do not overpace at the start when my energy level is
stil |
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b***i
发帖数: 10018 | 15 A few years ago a group of scientists developed an interest in bumblebees.
These scientists reckoned that these little insects held some secrets of
flight that may provide some answers to questions about operating in space.
After all, they asked, how could such small wings produce efficient lift for
a relatively large and hairy torso? And how could a round body and flight
position that violated many principles of aerodynamics move so efficiently
through the air?
After weeks of study, hypothesizi |
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w********6
发帖数: 12977 | 16 I am not 大牛 either, not even small one. I think instead of focusing on
slow stroke, you should focus on reducing the number of strokes each lap;
you can be slow in rotating your torso and in moving your out of water
elbow forward, but you should have acceleration (can be slow at first, but
need to speed up, especially after passing your shoulder) in moving your
palm back under the water, since this is the
power that propels you forward.
that |
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w********6
发帖数: 12977 | 17 that's Emil style:
Zátopek's running style was distinctive and very much at odds with what was
considered to be an efficient style at the time. His head would often roll,
face contorted with effort, while his torso swung from side to side. He
often wheezed and panted audibly while running, which earned him the
nicknames of "Emil the Terrible" or "the Czech Locomotive". When asked about
his tortured facial expressions, Zátopek is said to have replied that "It
isn't gymnastics or ice-skating, you ... 阅读全帖 |
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s******g
发帖数: 86 | 18 Running is a skill that requires practice to master. Learning good running
technique is crucial to running well, getting faster and staying injury-free
. Using the Core Running technique develops an efficient and strong running
style.
The Core Running method focuses on seven key running characteristics:
1.Footstrike,
2.cadence and stride length,
3.body positioning,
4.lower limb mobility and elasticity,
5.shoulder movement and arm swing,
6.torso and spinal stability,
7.neck and head alignment.
pl... 阅读全帖 |
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t********y
发帖数: 749 | 19 running does not contribute to this much.
First, I lost weight by running and diet, cut my fat to BMI < 18.
then two months of sit up would build up 6 pack.
the kind of vigorous sit ups. + some torso training. |
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w***n
发帖数: 9040 | 20 Dead Heat: Photo Finish. Who wins when two athletes finish at the same time?
It doesn't get more dramatic than the 2012 Olympic Women's Triathlon finish
in London with a gold medal at stake.
After a furious sprint to the end, Nicola Spirig of Switzerland and Lisa
Norden of Sweden both finished in the same official time: 1:59:48. The final
result was determined by race officials after reviewing the photo finish:
Spirig won gold, Norden took Silver.
But did officials make the right call? We gather... 阅读全帖 |
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a*****k
发帖数: 40 | 22 关于练腹肌，那个《4 hour body》里列出了各个训练的有效度（刺激度？）。
摘录如下：
Here’s how it stacks up against other exercises when rectus abdominis
activation is measured with electrodes and an EMG (electromyography machine)
. Google each exercise if curious. The traditional crunch is given a value
of 100%.
Bicycle crunch 248%
Captain’s chair 212%
Exercise ball 139%
Vertical leg crunch 129%
Torso track 127%
Long arm crunch 119%
Reverse crunch 109%
Crunch with heel push 107%
Ab roller 105%
H... 阅读全帖 |
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c*******r
发帖数: 13580 | 23 good to know you are a gal, lol.
there is a little more difference, such as the stiffness and binding
position.the difference is to accomodate women's atanomy: lighter than men
with the same height, longer limbs and shorter torso, lower center of
gravity, less strength, etc. of course the difference is very subtle, I don'
t believe any beginner or even intermediate skiers would really feel it. |
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f*********y
发帖数: 2 | 24 From the picture, her ski form gets some problem,her head and torso is
leaning forward too much. it shall be straight up, need to take more private
lesson to correct the problem. |
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s*******r
发帖数: 1285 | 25 Yes, they showed that the skier's torso was not in strong position.
youtube |
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s*******r
发帖数: 1285 | 26 This involves some advance topics about dynamic skiing.
"进弯之前要开始lower your body" -> get ready for unweighting.
"其实就是使劲儿压前腿 ..." -> NO. It's actually the flexion that involves
some joints.
"压肩" -> NO. Bad practice.
"老师说上身不要动了" -> Yes. Good to hold a stable torso.
build |
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s*******r
发帖数: 1285 | 27 The skier in the video clip shows tons of problems:
1. He is spraying snow directly down the hill. His edging is only for
lateral push off in the middle or after fallline.
2. He lifts his inside ski to release showing that his foot-to-foot pressure
management needs to improve.
3. His ski tails moves like a windshield brush resulting in a Z-shaped turn
or an irregular S-shaped turn with no pencil line (no track).
4. His ankles do not flex. The joints that he uses for flexion are only on
hip and... 阅读全帖 |
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l**********i
发帖数: 11748 | 28 youtube上很多视频啊
你会常听到的关键词
upper body
lower body
separation
twist
torso |
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S********t
发帖数: 3431 | 29 是的，我觉得这是一个本质的区别。现代Alpine滑法，carving的实质，讲的是利用ski
的sidecut去转弯，用的力道仅仅是把ski压弯，with minimal steering。因为是靠ski
edge的弧线滑，所以前提就是constant snow contact。竞技蘑菇滑法，靠heavy knee
steering，而且器材上也是传统的直ski，没有太多sidecut的。
看了这些内容，我上周末练习的时候，就注意去体会各种不同程度的steering的感觉，
从minimal steering的圆滑carved turn过渡到wiperblade风格的快速窄turn。练下来
，主动体会了两种滑法的区别，就觉得没有前阵子那么迷茫了。
另外一个很大的区别就是stance/position。bumper讲的是tall stacked position，
drive torso upwards and forwards. Alpine讲的是crouched althlete position, 往
侧前方drive hip来set edge angle |
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S********t
发帖数: 3431 | 30 快季末了，版上水也不多了，抓紧春天的尾巴上来灌灌水吧
因为这周又重新读了些精华区里偶像的帖子，还在老美的forum上意外看到了n年前偶像
的帖子，一阵感叹
我是2011-12 season开始滑的，所以雪版上更早的一批偶像级人物没什么机会接触到。
第一个season末的时候，正好看到whaw在雪版发帖邀WA雪友来Stevens聚聚，那时正是
滑雪兴致最高涨的时候，第一个雪季嘛，滑了二十天左右的样子，觉得自己groomed黑
道都可以很流畅很稳的下也冲过50mph的高速算是不错了吧，于是信心满满的去找新雪
友切磋切磋！结果彻底傻掉了。whaw大侠稳如磐石的上身和飞快但均匀极有节奏的
short turn，彻底让我第一次开了眼界什么叫做高手，第一个滑雪偶像瞬间诞生。从那
天开始，whaw的youtube视频不知道被我翻来覆去看了多少遍，每次看过后，感慨都是
相同的，我要是能什么时候练到那样就好了。whaw是极有耐心非常nice的人，跟我和另
外几个小伙伴们分别讲解tip，分析动作问题，做示范，停下来等我们。现在回头看那
时录下来的视频，我和小伙伴们滑的那个不堪入目，更是佩服whaw。换了要... 阅读全帖 |
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l*******o
发帖数: 669 | 31 Day 3 (theme: counteraction)
During the video analysis on day 2, Jay said both Andrei and I lacked
counteraction (CA) as our upper bodies followed the skis. Well, true, but we
were supposed to focus on CB on day 2, weren’t we? Anyway, CA became the
theme of day 3.
Jay explained to us that CA is used to make better ski edge grip. (I think
it also makes release much easier.) When skis point to one direction, we
counter that move by rotating our upper bodies to the other direction.
Beginners tend t... 阅读全帖 |
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b*******e
发帖数: 6482 | 32 上两层，里面一层liner手套。
另外讲真，torso身上多穿一件其实也管用。
. |
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b********n
发帖数: 4256 | 33
我也来胡说两句：
转身不错。。
蝶泳的torso好像上下动的比较多。。。
杨勇的stroke频率好像应该快些。。。肩膀带手臂不明显。。。 |
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a*******d
发帖数: 3690 | 34 我觉得你先试试6号的好了。
如果你是又瘦又高，那么估计你还是要穿8号，因为8号的torso（好像这样拼的）会长
一些。 |
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a*******d
发帖数: 3690 | 35 不客气 : )
我的泳衣是在Modell's或者Macy's买的，有时候运气好在Marshall's也买到过。说到
Marshall's，夏季快结束的时候留意一下，有时候会有很多Speedo，而且很便宜，20块
钱的样子。
我觉得34码对应衣服的7/8码太不靠谱了,我觉得你到Modell's啊Sports Authority这些店里去试一下，搞清楚自己的尺码再上网去订就比较放心一些。
torso |
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a*******d
发帖数: 3690 | 36 我觉得那个34看着象是胸围的公分。
34，32你都试试好了，泳衣的胖瘦还好说，因为有弹性，关键是torso要合适，这个没
办法将就。 |
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c*******k
发帖数: 2427 | 37 是，说得很好。那我下次还是买 speedo
其实这次还有一个原因是刚开始让 speedo size chart里的 dress size弄迷惑了，迟
迟没清楚尺寸。等到知道的时候，教主推荐的 endurance型的已经没号了，只得按号码
来选型：）
所以吸取我的教训，先清楚尺寸，等到打折时赶紧下单：P
cup swimming. Your gals need to pay attention.
become fuffy and bubling. Try to buy some midrange or high end staffs, your
body will look way much better.
nothing.and, life is very short, be happy and breath like breeze.
只是腰部小，因为 torso length可能也做相应的调整，这样一来腰部合适的话，可能
穿上会觉得很短、很紧。 |
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S*M
发帖数: 10832 | 38 我是十年前就会蛙泳了
但是一直游的很慢
现闲的没事儿，想把蛙泳好好练一练
看了这片文章
Breaststroke Breakthrough
http://breastroker.tripod.com/grotebreast.htm
里面提到腰部和臀部发力，说实话我没看太明白
If you use your high elbows as a hinge for the inward sweep of your hands
and forearms, you'll create the leverage you need to use your abdominal
muscles to bring your hips forward. The action is similar to a stomach
crunch. This takes the pulling load off your weaker arm muscles and shifts
it to your far more powerful torso muscles
Your hips are also at their |
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g**********y
发帖数: 14569 | 39 转一个低俗的，不是我发明的啊
Exercise 2. Squeezing Your Butt Muscles
Our second exercise is another visualisation. This time we're focused on the
lower-rear core muscles, the glutes (your bum/butt). As you swim, imagine
you have a large coin between your butt cheeks and you've got to keep it
there! To do that you've got to lightly squeeze your butt cheeks together -
a crude thought but very effective none the less!
Don't over do it, a very light clench is enough to engage your glutes,
straighten your lower bo... 阅读全帖 |
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b*******t
发帖数: 33714 | 40 想买件once piece，local最小好像只有6，就想网上买买看，不知道bust waist hip
torso里面没法全对上的话哪个最需要接近？ |
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i*********5
发帖数: 19210 | 41 The Flutter Kick, One of Swimming's Mysteries, July 1995
http://www.swimmingworldmagazine.com/articles/swimmagazine/arti
by Marty Hull
The Flutter Kick
One of Swimming's Mysteries
Legs are very powerful on land, able to move us around with quickness and
grace. In the water, legs do not always work very well. This article
explores how the flutter kick works, why some swimmers have very effective
kicks and others do not, and how to make your kick better through specific
stretching and strength... 阅读全帖 |
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j****5
发帖数: 385 | 42 Ian held my arms and torso. And told me what is enough and what is excessive
. Felt so good. I will practice and follow his schedule to get follow up
advice. He is way better than coaches I paid. |
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d****v
发帖数: 6 | 43 lz身材很吊也。其实女士racing泳衣都挺紧的，不用担心腰部会松掉。
Usms上的姑娘推荐泳衣买小两个号。这样比较紧，游速也会提高。我按size chart是30
号，往小买城28号现在每个来回的stroke数都变少了... 但是如果你的torso很长就按
自己的身材买吧。
这是在amazon上一个swimmer指点的，我粘贴过来给你看。
Ladies, proper fitment of a Speedo swimsuit may not be what you are used to.
The legs are cut extremely high-a couple inches away from your natural
waist. It does not follow your hipline. Hike up that suit! I promise you
wont fall out or have a super wedgie.
Once you get the legs in the proper place, the rest of the suit shoul... 阅读全帖 |
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M*******s
发帖数: 2630 | 44 谢谢mm指点~~~
我比照了speedo size chart,
照三围来买的话是4S，照torso来买的话是8M.
担心8M太宽，穿4S会不会很绷？平常买衣服一般都是4号的。
俺是长腰怪....泪奔....
30
to.
feel |
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s****e
发帖数: 914 | 45 Jerry Heidenreich认为, 游泳有21条法则必须牢记:
1. Three of the most important components of swimming are: technique,
technique, technique.
2. Strive for optimum, not maximum, performance.
3. Learn to balance, align, and stabilize your body first. Everything else
will become easier.
4. Seek the path of least resistance.
5. Find the path of most resistance.
6. To become effortless requires great effort.
7. Listen to the water, feel the water, be one with the water. Swim quietly.
8. The mind leads the body.
9.... 阅读全帖 |
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d**y
发帖数: 18174 | 46 RE：“Torso moving 不是朝着fixedarm的方向扭过去的吗？这样怎么能够越来越拉紧
、蓄能？”
我觉得他的意思是，入水的时候尚未伸直手臂（印象里你说过TI讲究入水点比较贴近头
，不求远），所以体会不到拉紧。随着转体的进行（这段里说的“your body rolling
onto its side”），手臂和肩伸直到最大程度。
RE：“此处是不是应该为 right hip and shoulder?”
你说的turn，应该指的是旋转轴；而原文指的turn，应该是旋转体。更精确的说法似乎
应该是“Turn your left hip and shoulder around a virtual axis through your
right hip and shoulder”
something |
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s**a
发帖数: 1995 | 47 谢谢回复。
我不明白的地方在于：
游泳时：以右侧手臂伸长/入水为例，身体向右侧翻滚时，因为身体靠近了手臂，不象
一个弹簧拉紧的过程，反而象弹簧放松，释放能量。和原文提到的 “Now, with the
torso moving and the arm fixed, your upper body becomes increasingly taut”
不符合。除非讲的是此时右臂用力前伸，左臂下折抱水，anchor左臂，身体向右转动，
背部躯干从右腰到左肩拉紧积蓄能量。此时anchor左臂很重要，就像D指导前两天说的
，在小臂和肘到达某个角度（60度？）前大臂不要划水。而当身体转动完成，背部拉到
最紧时，完成蓄能，就像击球以前的转体，然后利用背部的肌肉收缩划水。这样解释的
话，和高肘倒是很像。
陆地上也是同样疑问：右手尽量上伸，转动、抬起右肘导致肩部下方拉紧好理解。左髖
抬起，导致身体向右侧转，会靠近右臂，导致拉紧的背部肌肉放松下来。也不会让背部
increasingly taut. |
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d**y
发帖数: 18174 | 48 心急不愿意从短轴分段压水练基本功的话，可以游单手蝶来找出原因（手、腰还是腿，
以及不对称有多严重）以及临时的矫正办法。
一位老教练说手不出水恢复的练习对改善这种失衡有帮助。...recover low, lower
than the surface, and you'll not impart rotation or skew to your torso...这
种练习的依据大概是先利用水的巨大阻力排除手，把腰和腿练好再说。但是我觉得这种
练法会破坏节奏。 |
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t*****x
发帖数: 2602 | 49 其实我觉得，更确切的是力量来自torso，注意腰腹的力量，而不是小腿吐露吐露的使
劲踢 |
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t*****x
发帖数: 2602 | 50 所有的动作，无论手还是腿，我自己感觉都是力量来自torso，手，我觉得靠背肌的拉
伸成分挺大的，脊椎两边那两条里脊肉的力量，而腿的力量来自腰腹 |
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