L***0
发帖数: 1283 | 1 1. firstly, she was talking about swimming and running, not swimming and
jogging.
2. maybe for you, going to the ocean is only to play with water, because you
are incapable of swimming open water. for the triathletes here, going to
the ocean is for training.
that |
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p********y
发帖数: 5141 | 2 赞！
Apart from triathletes, the 2nd one also applies on the open water
swimmers.
you
to |
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w*******s
发帖数: 980 | 3 Ironman to Triathletes is Marathon to runners.
asked for "Ironman". Let's see if that's gonna work. |
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i*********5
发帖数: 19210 | 4 Right. I've sent in another request to have our club's name changed to "
Triathletes" and give the name "Triathlon" to the new board. Let's see if
that would work.
Otherwise, we'll settle for "Tri", or "Ironman". |
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L***0
发帖数: 1283 | 5 跟几个跑cross country的freshmen，学校track team的assistant coach（身材一看就
是巨快的那种），一个女的undergrad triathlete，还有光着脚的D Lieberman，brisk
pace，跑得很舒服。开学了人多就是好。Aniu该来跟我们一起跑。 |
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R*****s
发帖数: 41236 | 6 相比之下， 职业跑马的是有点太廋了， 还是triathlete比较
匀称 ：） |
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f*******n
发帖数: 5241 | 9 这是我今天的记录：
http://www.teambeachbody.com/connect/message-boards/-/message_b
Day 28: 14 miles running
It was a gorgeous day to be out running. I carb loaded a little last night
in preparing for the long run. It's a good thing that I did it. After
yesterday's all out X2 Balance + Power in the morning and 6 miles trail run
in the afternoon, I started the first mile with tired legs. I went back to
Highline Canal, where I had most of my long runs. This was a nice flat dirt
trail. There were still many ... 阅读全帖 |
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R*****s
发帖数: 41236 | 10 基本上，BMI swimmer>triathlete>cyclist>runner
不过长距离选手一般都不会太胖， 短距离swimmer BMI会高些，
但是也很lean的， 参见Michael Phelps.. |
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i*********5
发帖数: 19210 | 11 snowboard/ski/swim
might try xc ski and snowshoe this winter if i get a chance. my former
colleague (fellow triathlete, KONA Ironman) was the Canadian XC ski champion!
and of course i'll also try to hit the treadmill and get my bike trainer out
from the basement as well. if i can bare the boredom. |
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C*********p
发帖数: 213 | 12 http://www.outsideonline.com/blog/12-year-old-trail-running-phe
Welsch, a Houston-area seventh grader, won the women’s field to become the
youngest ever champion of an XTERRA trail half-marathon, placing 11th
overall with a time of 1:39:31. Two minutes back was 42-year-old Claudia
Spooner, an Ironman triathlete known for running away from the other females
at XTERRA races across Texas ("I think she was sick that day," offers
Katylynn). In third place after Spooner came Katylynn’s kid sister, Hea... 阅读全帖 |
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R*****s
发帖数: 41236 | 15 我觉得很有道理， 所以我看很多triathlete都穿stability的鞋...
他们开始跑马的时候， 身体（腿脚）已经非常疲惫了...
flatten
arch |
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R*****s
发帖数: 41236 | 16 我想了想， 可能也不能这么说， 纯minimalist是反对有任何
support的， 代表就是VFF这种， 只有个最基本的保护， 没有
任何cushion....
但是racing flats/newton等等heel to toe drop小, 而且轻薄的鞋，
是有neutral/stability两个版本的....
racing flats里面bandito/DS racer/brooks racer st/fastwitch
都是stability的鞋, 不少triathletes在穿， 不过这几双鞋或许不能
算mimimalist...
牛顿可能很多人也觉得不是minimalist, 只不过heel to toe drop
小而已....
sorry for the confusion... |
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R*****s
发帖数: 41236 | 17 他这身材在triathlete里面的确不算正常...
Crag Alexander, 1.8m, 68kg, BMI 21..
一般21，最多22比较多...
胳膊壮看着像个拳击手....而且跑步比第二名能快这么多，
还真挺神奇的.... |
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发帖数: 3362 | 18 找到一个答案了
There are many ways to find your max HR....one is to go run a 5K race, then
sprint the last half mile, look at your HRM and add 5. This is as close as
you will get. Here is one that was given to me by a cycling coach/pro-
triathlete/Olympic cyclist... ----------------------------------------------
---------- This test should be performed after a recovery day or day off to
ensure the athlete is ready to put forth an honest and maximal effort. Warm
up for 10 minutes. Then run strong and ae... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 174 | 19 今年是很特别的一年，感觉跑步整体提高了一截，我觉得还是归根于ultra训练的基础
，能够承受更高强度的训练。
春季的波马，觉得跑得不错但没能破3还是有些遗憾。本来没打算秋季再跑马拉松。夏
季想搞大ultra，有两周115迈以上的，后来在以色列跑步的时候搞伤了只好退赛。之后
两个ultra距离的relay都感觉状态不错，NW passage w/ 2B bugs跑了40迈平均6:50
pace, reach the beach w/ team tigers跑了30迈平均6:30 pace. 8月份在低mileage
，高强度speedwork的情况下跑了5K PR，17:44. 之后觉得5K训练不给里，要加mileage
。跟波士顿的诸位running buddy开始了高里程的训练。虽然没有阿牛那样来周115迈，
也不知不觉的每周有80迈以上了。有一周88迈包括了pace很快的long run，觉得不跑马
拉松浪费了，就报了4周后的cape cod marathon.
接下来的两周monster week，第一周是78迈，最后周日的20迈平均6:48 pace，是在周
六speedwo... 阅读全帖 |
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i*********5
发帖数: 19210 | 20 破三在本版已经开始普及开来了，但是在全程铁人赛里破三好像还没有人尝试过。Troy
教练的这篇文章就是讲他如何在４１岁时实现的这个目标。
http://www.coachtroy.com/public/605.cfm
How to Run a Sub 3-Hour (or YOUR PR) Ironman Marathon
Tips resulting from my Ironman AZ Experience
by Coach Troy Jacobson
What is your personal Mt. Everest? What big goal do you have on your 'bucket
list' that has been looming just slightly out of your reach for many years?
For me, it was running a sub 3 hour Ironman marathon. During a tri career
spanning over 20 years and 15 Ironman races... 阅读全帖 |
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i*********5
发帖数: 19210 | 21 好像套在pro cycling上也讲得通，纯cyclist也不跑步（triathlete除外）。
for
cross
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j***y
发帖数: 5098 | 22 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
Regina (猫宝宝) 于 (Mon Jul 4 03:04:48 2011, 美东) 提到:
体重降到110磅以内了，但是两腿膝盖都疼，是不是在水泥路上跑的缘故？
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dathinker (思考者) 于 (Mon Jul 4 08:29:57 2011, 美东) 提到:
每天一万二什么东西？一万两千麦？
其实膝盖痛的原因可能很多
比如跑姿不对，过劳损，受了寒凉，以及cushion不够等等
还要问问是觉得神经痛那种如针扎似的痛，还是有些肿的那种肿痛？
多说说症状比较好分析
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Regina (猫宝宝) 于 (Mon Jul 4 13:21:30 2011, 美东) 提到:
每天1万两千米，大约是7.5迈
是那种肿痛，腿外侧和膝盖肿痛的那种痛。
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i*********5
发帖数: 19210 | 23 这哥们儿每周只练10小时，夏威夷铁人赛成绩为 9:36
他的10 Minimalist Ironman Training Strategies里有两条是给跑步的：
6. No Long Runs
You heard me right. No long runs. While a long bike ride is a session from
which you can recover relatively quickly, a long run (2+ hours) can
significantly impact your joints and literally keep you inflamed and beat up
for up to 2 weeks.
In the same way that anaerobic high intensity interval sessions have been
shown to significantly enhance aerobic fitness, short and intense runs of 80
-90 minutes ... 阅读全帖 |
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y***r
发帖数: 1845 | 24 Patricia Walsh的blog: http://patriciaironmantexas.wordpress.com/
盲人！女人！铁人！她是绝对的牛人！
前年公司新闻这样说：
What they don't know is that they are talking to perhaps the fastest blind
Ironman triathlete in the world. At the recent Memorial Hermann Ironman
Texas in Woodlands, Texas, Walsh swam 2.4 miles, biked 112 miles, and ran 26
.2 miles in 11 hours and 50 minutes. |
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d******0
发帖数: 22800 | 25 这个好。。贴贴脚丫子防止水泡应该没啥大不了的。
不过要贴的专业。。这个人说的好像有点道理。
5.0 out of 5 stars You need to know what you are doing..., August 19, 2010
By Headless (USA) - See all my reviews
This review is from: Kinesio Tex Tape, Red, 2 inch x16.4 ft (Health and
Beauty)
I am a CKTP...or Certified Kinesio Taping Practitioner. I am also a sports
med. doctor and treat amateur and professional athletes. I can attest to the
fact that you need a good knowledge of kinesiology and biomechanics to
maximize the effects of this tape. Th... 阅读全帖 |
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g*2
发帖数: 658 | 26 EXERCISE-RELATED TRANSIENT ABDOMINAL PAIN — Exercise-related transient
abdominal pain (ETAP) is commonly referred to as a "stitch." It occurs
frequently during long distance running (particularly during training and
racing) but also with swimming, cycling, horseback riding, and team sports.
The reported incidence varies widely: 6 to 68 percent.
Clinical manifestations — Exercise-related transient abdominal pain is
often described as a side ache, side cramp, sharp or stabbing pain, cramping
, ach... 阅读全帖 |
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y***r
发帖数: 1845 | 27 牛啊。
感情500多页的大书就讲了一个计算MAF的公式……
不过我觉得书里没太讲具体训练问题，而且感觉Dr. Maffetone作为医生，最关心的是
健康，至于比赛成绩什么的都是次要的。
要批判大书的可以读一下人家的总结，缺点说的很到位：
* The 180 formula does NOT take into account individual variations in heart
rate stroke volume or muscle physiology for different sports. Maffetone does
not consider maximum heart rate nor resting heart rate to be significant.
Instead, his formulas are purely a function of age and a few modifiers that
have nothing to do with your heart's individual characteristics. This seems
t... 阅读全帖 |
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w***n
发帖数: 9040 | 28 要如何达到高潮??! 看到这个标题, 心术不正的人可能会觉得我怎么会改写两性文章了
?! 但是我这么单纯而且对该议题还是懵懂无知的人, 当然不会写那类
文章,你们真的想太多…
去年看到LUMINA杂志有一篇提到运动表现也是有高低潮, 才开始对这训练与体能的"波
浪理论"现象有些粗浅的了解, 尤其去年下半年去佑佑那边开始接触功率训练, 看到一
些像是WKO等等训练软体, 可以从一个选手长期的功率输出, 心跳值, 踩踏等等数值,
来统计你目前是处于Performance的低潮还是高潮, 才慢慢了解训练的博大精深, 原来
自己以前都是在乱练阿!
以前总认为只要一直训练, 体能就会进步, 不过从事铁人运动几年下来, 慢慢变成"
SERIOUS RUNNER or SERIOUS TRIATHLETE"时, 就会开始发现, 为什么上一周吃得很轻
松的课表, 到了本周却吃到快吐? 或者上个月练得很辛苦的强度, 最近却觉得充满神力
, 吃起来很轻松, 而且隔天马上恢复可以继续训练? 也许可以参考一下这个图表:
红色曲线是指训练的强度(Training), 绿色则是运动表现... 阅读全帖 |
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p*********l
发帖数: 26270 | 29 triathletes的上身的确是要好些，不然没力气游泳啊 |
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m*****i
发帖数: 2325 | 30 这是版的诊断：
参看： http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/Running/31646495.html
EXERCISE-RELATED TRANSIENT ABDOMINAL PAIN — Exercise-related transient
abdominal pain (ETAP) is commonly referred to as a "stitch." It occurs
frequently during long distance running (particularly during training and
racing) but also with swimming, cycling, horseback riding, and team sports.
The reported incidence varies widely: 6 to 68 percent.
Clinical manifestations — Exercise-related transient abdominal pain is
often described ... 阅读全帖 |
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j****y
发帖数: 1714 | 31 我有同事骑自行车突然心脏病发作死亡。所以看了看锻炼过度和心脏病的关联的文章。
仅供参考：
http://fitness.mercola.com/sites/fitness/archive/2013/08/23/ext
By Dr. Mercola
Do you dread going to the gym for what feels like hours at a stretch? Or do
you avoid working out altogether because you just don't have the time? Then
what I'm about to tell you should be music to your ears: when it comes to
exercise, less is more.
It's becoming increasingly clear from the recent flurry of scientific
studies that overdosing on exercise can have detrimental... 阅读全帖 |
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R*****s
发帖数: 41236 | 32 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
joyjoy (joy) 于 (Sat Oct 5 01:52:16 2013, 美东) 提到:
我有同事骑自行车突然心脏病发作死亡。所以看了看锻炼过度和心脏病的关联的文章。
仅供参考：
http://fitness.mercola.com/sites/fitness/archive/2013/08/23/ext
By Dr. Mercola
Do you dread going to the gym for what feels like hours at a stretch? Or do
you avoid working out altogether because you just don't have the time? Then
what I'm about to tell you should be music to your ears: when it comes to
exercise, less is more.
It's becoming increasingly clea... 阅读全帖 |
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j****y
发帖数: 1714 | 33 【 以下文字转载自 Complain 讨论区 】
发信人: joyjoy (joy), 信区: Complain
标 题: 【投诉】running 版版主Rodimus威胁网友，无故删帖
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Oct 6 02:20:59 2013, 美东)
我在running 版转帖了题为Extreme Endurance Exercise and heart attack的文章。
全篇文章都是认同跑步的好处，但是提醒过渡锻炼可能和心脏病有关联。
一些网友跳出来羞辱讽刺。我无所谓。文章总有喜欢和不喜欢的。
Rodimus对该帖极为不满，说running版不欢迎这类文章,封了很难看。同时说置顶文章
有类似讨论了。
我发帖反驳，问他是不是私人俱乐部，不允许公开发帖，同时要他拿出白底黑字的版规
看我违反了哪一条。我说我读了置顶文章，要么是空连接，要么内容不相同。
Rodimus 根本拿不出任何版规，居然发帖说我是受虐狂。
我发帖反驳说他动不动冒充全版不欢迎新人，还无根据威胁封人，是虐待狂。
Rodimus恼羞成怒，把我的帖子和后面更贴的对话全删了。
我要问站务，一个版... 阅读全帖 |
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R*****s
发帖数: 41236 | 34 我好像在哪里看到过这故事，是Triathlete's Training Bible里的么，
这书挺不错的，正在慢慢看... |
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R*****s
发帖数: 41236 | 35 我好像在哪里看到过这故事，是Triathlete's Training Bible里的么，
这书挺不错的，正在慢慢看... |
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R*****s
发帖数: 41236 | 36 谢谢画眉姐！
昨天看Triathlete training bible, Ironman推荐的年训练时间是
600-1200 hour, 相对于平均每周12-24hour/week, 太费时间了... |
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R*****s
发帖数: 41236 | 37 我昨天看Triathlete's Training Bible, 说每个人的进步时间大约有10年，
不管从啥年纪开始... |
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f*******r
发帖数: 71 | 38 我一直想减肥，看了老狼的《七年之痒》，知道了nancy clark's sports nutrition
guidebook。 那本书上说很少有人需要人工的蛋白，实际上过多的蛋白没有好处。
看到网上大牛们用这个，我又迷惘了。
Page 225：
Few athletes need to spend money on protein supplements. Even
vegetarians can get enough protein through foods. But sometimes, with
high school and collegiate athletes, as well as triathletes and others doing
double workouts, the need for calories can outweigh the ability to easily
consume them because of lack of appetite or time. And at other times, a
supplement is just mor... 阅读全帖 |
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R*****s
发帖数: 41236 | 39 elite marathoners run 15 hours/week
elite ultra runners run 20+ hours/week
pro swimmers, cyclists, triathletes train 30+ hours/week
most of these ppl die early? give me some evidence please.
3 hours/week? probably good enough for joggers.. |
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m******r
发帖数: 9604 | 40 【 以下文字转载自 Tri 讨论区 】
发信人: manyhuar (许多花儿), 信区: Tri
标 题: 给励志哥定了个IRONMAN PLAN
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue May 20 19:51:29 2014, 美东)
去年10月底介绍了我的励志同事大哥的事迹，文章如下：
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发信人: manyhuar (许多花儿), 信区: Cycling
标 题: 一个励志的大哥
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Oct 24 14:28:09 2013, 美东)
我公司同事，46岁了。身体底子应该不错，几年前没有训练基础跑了个马拉松，时间不
到5小时。可是平时没有坚持耐力训练，就是去去gym，周末hiking这样。后来肩膀和膝
盖受伤，都做了大手术。今年夏天体重是210多磅(身高6-1)。
7月份他拉我参加10月的half iron, 7月中在网上买了辆500多刀的公路车开始练习。每
个周末和我一起骑个中长距离后跑几迈。赛前体重降到了190. 上周日完成... 阅读全帖 |
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R*****s
发帖数: 41236 | 41 据说是美国历史上第一次，直接在前一年比赛的on site报完了，没有任何名额留到网
络报名，估计以后的IMAZ都得提前1年来做志愿者才可能报上了.
这周末举家带娃带狗辛苦开车5个多小时去做志愿者也算值得，报上了2015的IMAZ,
花了将近800大洋，俺明年的主要目标有了，冬训正式开始.
谢谢花花的接待，明年再见！
IRONMAN Arizona Enjoys Fastest Sellout in US History
http://www.ironman.com/triathlon/news/articles/2014/11/ironman-
For the first time at an American IRONMAN event, entries sold out onsite at
IRONMAN Arizona.
With its fast and flat course around Tempe Beach Park and Tempe Town Lake
and spectator-friendly atmosphere, IRONMAN Arizona is one... 阅读全帖 |
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R*****s
发帖数: 41236 | 43 订了4年RT, 两年Triathlete..正好expire了，真及时.. |
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w****1
发帖数: 4931 | 45 By the way, I don't know if you already have a systematic training plan for
your full ironman. If not, you should read the book "the triathlete's
training bible". |
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m******r
发帖数: 9604 | 46 ok. so much for my breastroke. "you won't catch the wolf if you don't let
go off your kid"...
Thanks for the advice. I have bought the book you recommended and the "
strength training for triathletes". This is my first investment for the IM.
right
It |
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m******r
发帖数: 9604 | 47 It looks like you’re going to push your limits this time, huh? All the
best to your training. Keep us posted!
The wetsuit… sorry, I don’t have much experience with wetsuits either. I
did my first tri and my 4km open water swim without wetsuits. I did my
second tri with a top-half wetsuit ($84). I’ll definitely need my bottom-
half ‘wet-pants’ for my ironman in November.
I met a triathlete in my gym last week. He said his wetsuit cost him $120.
But without knowing the material/performance, |
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a***c
发帖数: 2443 | 48 僵硬 is not really a problem, but rather a personal preference.
Since you mentioned TI, I'd like to point out that TI is NOT the
definitive way to swim freestyle. Not every good swimmer swims like
that, i.e. very long smooth strokes, prolonged gliding, etc. I've seen
triathletes swim with a relatively high stroke rate, and it sure
doesn't look like they're very relaxed, but their stamina is so good
they can actually sustain that high stroke rate and make good lap
times. If you're too relaxed, you'... 阅读全帖 |
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g*z
发帖数: 3227 | 49 zz
公开水域游泳技巧
In my many years in this sport, I have never seen any reasonably
complete article in the magazines dealing with open water swimming (they
seem to rehash the same basic stuff every few years). A lot of them talk
about how to draft, or tell you to look up every few strokes to stay on
course, but very few seem to deal with the subject in much detail.
在我多年的运动生涯中，我从未在任何杂志中看到过合理的、完整的对付公开水域
游泳的文章（他们似乎只是每几年训练一些新手）。很多文章只是谈一些如何跟随游，
或者告诉你几个动作后向上看，以保持航线，但是没有多少文章对这个话题说的足够详
细。
So last summer, I st... 阅读全帖 |
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